Can 1 of you shed some light on......
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Can 1 of you shed some light on......
BMW's claiming there new 4.8 AWD X-5 does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds! and there earlier model in 6.4 seconds please explain? How is this possible? Range Rover just came out w/SuperCharged version for 06' w/400hp 420ftlb to. and there claiming 0-60 7.1Seconds 
the Range Rover weighs only 350lbs.. more than the X-5 and the X-5 has 355hp, & 360lbof to. how is this possible? I think they share the same platform/maker for engines??? Is BMW just full of **** 
or what gives please explain if you know.....thanks....
X5--curb weight 5,000lbs
How is BMW's claim possible my 01' S500, weighs 4,160lbs 0-60 - 6.1 sec
S500 302hp--339to-----BMW has 53 more hp, and a measley 21ft lbs more torque!
but weighs 840LBS..MORE!!
06' RR--curb weight 5,350lbs
******************BMW's FULL OF ************************
the Range Rover weighs only 350lbs.. more than the X-5 and the X-5 has 355hp, & 360lbof to. how is this possible? I think they share the same platform/maker for engines??? Is BMW just full of **** or what gives please explain if you know.....thanks....X5--curb weight 5,000lbs
How is BMW's claim possible my 01' S500, weighs 4,160lbs 0-60 - 6.1 sec
S500 302hp--339to-----BMW has 53 more hp, and a measley 21ft lbs more torque!
but weighs 840LBS..MORE!!
06' RR--curb weight 5,350lbs
******************BMW's FULL OF ************************
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Originally Posted by thericker55
BMW's claiming there new 4.8 AWD X-5 does 0-60 in 6.1 seconds! and there earlier model in 6.4 seconds please explain? How is this possible? Range Rover just came out w/SuperCharged version for 06' w/400hp 420ftlb to. and there claiming 0-60 7.1Seconds the Range Rover weighs only 350lbs.. more than the X-5 and the X-5 has 355hp, & 360lbof to. how is this possible? I think they share the same platform/maker for engines??? Is BMW just full of **** or what gives please explain if you know.....thanks....
X5--curb weight 5,000lbs
06' RR--curb weight 5,350lbs
the Range Rover weighs only 350lbs.. more than the X-5 and the X-5 has 355hp, & 360lbof to. how is this possible? I think they share the same platform/maker for engines??? Is BMW just full of **** or what gives please explain if you know.....thanks....X5--curb weight 5,000lbs
06' RR--curb weight 5,350lbs
the curb weight for the supercharged model is 5637 lbs. It is NOT the same body as the regular range rover. Its a LR3 chassie with a body that looks like a range rover.
BMW engines have a engine-management system:
Motronic ME 9.2.1; Valvetronic variable valve lift, Double-VANOS steplessly variable intake and exhaust valve timing.
I really doubt jaguars engines are as advanced..Also gotta remember BMW horsepower = Magic
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Originally Posted by NOTKTS
BMW SUCKS!! Lets go to bimmer world and ask!
< - - - - BMW enthusiast.., and owner of a BMW bike..
< - - - - Land rover owner =P
I did not realize there is soo much hate between benz and bmw owners 0_o..
Ask the people on http://www.bmwboard.com/forum
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Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt
First of all, the new land rover super charged doesnt have a BMW engine, it has a engine out of a jaguar, after bmw no longer was under ownership out went the engines.
the curb weight for the supercharged model is 5637 lbs. It is NOT the same body as the regular range rover. ..Also gotta remember BMW horsepower = Magic
the curb weight for the supercharged model is 5637 lbs. It is NOT the same body as the regular range rover. ..Also gotta remember BMW horsepower = Magic
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Originally Posted by NOTKTS
BMW SUCKS!! Lets go to bimmer world and ask!
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the only thing I can list for performace specs on the ML is that I believe car and driver did a side by side comparo to the 4.6... ML got 0-60 of 6.4 and 4.6 got 0-60 of 6.4-6.5s... I think 6.5... the quarter mile times were also similar where the X5 ran it in 14.1 and the ML in 14.2 but for some reason the 0-100 times the ML pulled ahead again which would prolly suggest some unmatched gearing through the power band... The ML does have a low end transfer case that BMW 4.6 and 4.8 wouldnt dare to have with 20" wheels stock. From what I read on the Range Rover sport it was suppose to be 0-60 time of 5.9... the time that Autotrader is showing is prolly of the regular 4.6 Range which would make more sense.
ML55s have a curb weight of about 5100lbs... at 342hp@5500RPM and 376lbs of T. @2800RPM
http://www.mercedes-amg-class.com/models_details.php
ML55s have a curb weight of about 5100lbs... at 342hp@5500RPM and 376lbs of T. @2800RPM
http://www.mercedes-amg-class.com/models_details.php
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Here's a few tests from Motor Trend and Car and Driver, whether they mean anything or not 
Motor Trend test from April of '02 between the 4.6is and the ML55.
4.6is vs. ML55
BMW X5 4.6is 340 hp/350 lb/ft 5,127 lbs
0-60--6.20 secs
0-100--17.23 secs
Mercedes ML55 AMG 342 hp/376 lb/ft 5,073 lbs
0-60--6.24 secs
0-100--16.48 secs
Car and Driver test of the X5 4.8is here
5,090 lbs(37 lbs less than the 4.6)
355 hp/360 lb/ft
0-60--6.0 secs
0-100--16.0 secs
Motor Trend test from April of '02 between the 4.6is and the ML55.
4.6is vs. ML55
BMW X5 4.6is 340 hp/350 lb/ft 5,127 lbs
0-60--6.20 secs
0-100--17.23 secs
Mercedes ML55 AMG 342 hp/376 lb/ft 5,073 lbs
0-60--6.24 secs
0-100--16.48 secs
Car and Driver test of the X5 4.8is here
5,090 lbs(37 lbs less than the 4.6)
355 hp/360 lb/ft
0-60--6.0 secs
0-100--16.0 secs
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Thanks guys for the stats... I'm still a bit puzzled as to why the new Range Rover w/Supercharger is so slow 0-60 7.1 seconds w/420hp and weighing just a few hundred more lbs...
I'm still a bit puzzled as to why the new Range Rover w/Supercharger is so slow 0-60 7.1 seconds w/420hp and weighing just a few hundred more lbs...
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Originally Posted by thericker55
Thanks guys for the stats... I'm still a bit puzzled as to why the new Range Rover w/Supercharger is so slow 0-60 7.1 seconds w/420hp and weighing just a few hundred more lbs...
I'm still a bit puzzled as to why the new Range Rover w/Supercharger is so slow 0-60 7.1 seconds w/420hp and weighing just a few hundred more lbs...
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Originally Posted by thericker55
Thanks guys for the stats... I'm still a bit puzzled as to why the new Range Rover w/Supercharger is so slow 0-60 7.1 seconds w/420hp and weighing just a few hundred more lbs...
I'm still a bit puzzled as to why the new Range Rover w/Supercharger is so slow 0-60 7.1 seconds w/420hp and weighing just a few hundred more lbs...
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Originally Posted by akbro93704
NOTKTS is right, it's 400. Also, the numbers you got for the weight of the Range Rover are for the standard model, the Supercharged weighs 5,849 lbs. 700 hundred pounds more than the 4.8is makes a difference, and there's other issues to look at like gear ratios, aerodynamics(the range rover's like a box),testing conditions, etc.
