Smaller trunk and run-flats
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Smaller trunk and run-flats
Thought the new S-class was stunning until I got to the trunk. Looks quite a bit smaller than the old one, and there is a big storage bin under the trunk floor where the spare tire would go. Salesman confirms the car has run-flats (yuck).
I notice that the trunk size is listed on the MBUSA web site as "TBD". I wonder if the plan to include this under floor storage bin in the "trunk capacity" to hide the loss of trunk space?
I notice that the trunk size is listed on the MBUSA web site as "TBD". I wonder if the plan to include this under floor storage bin in the "trunk capacity" to hide the loss of trunk space?
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Thought the new S-class was stunning until I got to the trunk. Looks quite a bit smaller than the old one, and there is a big storage bin under the trunk floor where the spare tire would go. Salesman confirms the car has run-flats (yuck).
I notice that the trunk size is listed on the MBUSA web site as "TBD". I wonder if the plan to include this under floor storage bin in the "trunk capacity" to hide the loss of trunk space?
I notice that the trunk size is listed on the MBUSA web site as "TBD". I wonder if the plan to include this under floor storage bin in the "trunk capacity" to hide the loss of trunk space?
Actually, there are several options that determine the trunk capacity. If you add the Burmester 3D option, the Warmth & Comfort package, and the Refrigerator, all those options will adversely affect trunk space. So depending on what combo you go with, the amount of space lost differs. As you can see, it's a lot more than just the floor storage bin that's at play here.
I'm guessing they are trying to figure out how the various combinations impact trunk space. They should put a range (510 liters to X) depending on the combination.
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Thought the new S-class was stunning until I got to the trunk. Looks quite a bit smaller than the old one, and there is a big storage bin under the trunk floor where the spare tire would go. Salesman confirms the car has run-flats (yuck).
I notice that the trunk size is listed on the MBUSA web site as "TBD". I wonder if the plan to include this under floor storage bin in the "trunk capacity" to hide the loss of trunk space?
I notice that the trunk size is listed on the MBUSA web site as "TBD". I wonder if the plan to include this under floor storage bin in the "trunk capacity" to hide the loss of trunk space?
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It's very narrow and looks like you can't even fit some regular sized luggage in it. At least the one I saw (not sure what it had on it that could "shrink" trunk size). Just not very functional if you're going on a trip with enough people who can comfortably fit in a car of this size.
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I guess if thats the best thing you can come up with to be wrong with the car, its a good sign.
Coming from a 10 s550 to this car I noticed zero difference in trunk space after 2 or 3 costco trips. Trunk capacity is fine. What do you haul? lol
We have 3 kids so the rear seat is full with child seats etc and buy lots of stuff.
Still have room.
Runflats are what everyone is going to. Most cars that are high end dont have spares anymore in case you haven't noticed. The demographic usually doesnt want to change tires on the side of the road. Spare tire is an option on the new range rovers also. The ride quality for runflats does not suffer as much as it previously did.
Only thing that bothers me about the car is the over-complication of the electronics. I'm sure I will get used to it after a while but I'm sure the 60+ year old drivers hate it.
I guess if thats the best thing you can come up with to be wrong with the car, its a good sign.
Coming from a 10 s550 to this car I noticed zero difference in trunk space after 2 or 3 costco trips. Trunk capacity is fine. What do you haul? lol
We have 3 kids so the rear seat is full with child seats etc and buy lots of stuff.
Still have room.
Runflats are what everyone is going to. Most cars that are high end dont have spares anymore in case you haven't noticed. The demographic usually doesnt want to change tires on the side of the road. Spare tire is an option on the new range rovers also. The ride quality for runflats does not suffer as much as it previously did.
Only thing that bothers me about the car is the over-complication of the electronics. I'm sure I will get used to it after a while but I'm sure the 60+ year old drivers hate it.
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The trunk does look smaller in person, but, it may just be a trick of the eye. It seems larger than the Audi A8 trunk, which I believe is truly the weak link in the Audi too. The new S is very nice in person. When I have some time, I will definitely take one for a spin. Having a 1.5 year old S350 Bluetec as my daily driver, it is hard to believe there is much room for improvement in the ride of the new one Vs. my W221. I love my W221. I would not be in the market for a W222 until the diesel is released, and, only if it is a V6 diesel.
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Can you buy a temporary spare that fits in the trunk? Forget those runflats - they are fine for simple flats (nails, screws), but any kind of serious pothole impact that blows out the sidewall - no spare means you can't get home without a tow truck. No thanks.
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Here's my approximate measurement of the usable "square" space - e.g. not counting pockets that you can't put big luggage in:
W221: 39" deep, 37-38" wide (gets narrower towards the back), and 18" high
W222: 41" deep, 36" wide, 19" tall.
Not having the two side-by-side, but my recollection of the W222 is that it doesn't have as much side pockets in the rear end like the W221 does. So it may not be much different for big luggage, although I always stash stuff in those sides for my trips.
W221: 39" deep, 37-38" wide (gets narrower towards the back), and 18" high
W222: 41" deep, 36" wide, 19" tall.
Not having the two side-by-side, but my recollection of the W222 is that it doesn't have as much side pockets in the rear end like the W221 does. So it may not be much different for big luggage, although I always stash stuff in those sides for my trips.
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Coming from a 2012 s550 4matic to our new W222, I was expecting a significant improvement in ride quality with the 2wd "Magic Ride Control". I really am unimpressed by this aspect of the car. The car transmits more sharp road imperfection impact harshness than my 2012 did. The current generation of run flats may well be much better than previous run flats (I have no experience with previous run flats), but I am very unimpressed by their ride quality.
I keep a plug kit and a 12v compressor in the trunk. When these run flats are worn, they'll be replaced by conventional tires.
I keep a plug kit and a 12v compressor in the trunk. When these run flats are worn, they'll be replaced by conventional tires.
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Coming from a 2012 s550 4matic to our new W222, I was expecting a significant improvement in ride quality with the 2wd "Magic Ride Control". I really am unimpressed by this aspect of the car. The car transmits more sharp road imperfection impact harshness than my 2012 did. The current generation of run flats may well be much better than previous run flats (I have no experience with previous run flats), but I am very unimpressed by their ride quality.
I keep a plug kit and a 12v compressor in the trunk. When these run flats are worn, they'll be replaced by conventional tires.
I keep a plug kit and a 12v compressor in the trunk. When these run flats are worn, they'll be replaced by conventional tires.
So maybe conventional tires will make the ride quality up to what you're used to?
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Coming from a 2012 s550 4matic to our new W222, I was expecting a significant improvement in ride quality with the 2wd "Magic Ride Control". I really am unimpressed by this aspect of the car. The car transmits more sharp road imperfection impact harshness than my 2012 did. The current generation of run flats may well be much better than previous run flats (I have no experience with previous run flats), but I am very unimpressed by their ride quality.
I keep a plug kit and a 12v compressor in the trunk. When these run flats are worn, they'll be replaced by conventional tires.
I keep a plug kit and a 12v compressor in the trunk. When these run flats are worn, they'll be replaced by conventional tires.
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Both cars run on 19" AMG package factory wheels. The runflats are 275/40 19 Continentals. The 2012 runs 245/40 19 non-runflat Continentals. I'll let the forum know how it goes when they are replaced