Engine variants and model designations
07-10-2017, 02:49 PM
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2013 650i Coupe, 2010 IS250 AWD, 1999 S500
I believe that there is a concerted effort on MB's part, to get their non-AMG customers to accept smaller engines with fewer cylinders and to ween us away from V8's and surely V12's. With this in mind, I do believe that we will see the S500 I6 here. In the USA, to most folks out there, an S Class with a "5" as the first digit is a good enough status symbol. Offer the 6 at a substantial savings over the 8, with similar, or at least decent performance, and the S500 will be a home run. MB would love nothing more than for previous V8 customers to go for a 6 in the S Class. I believe this is why the new E was debuted with only an I4 available in non-AMG trim. The more smaller engined cars they sell, the easier it is for them to continue lining their pockets from selling monster AMG vehicles and to meet CAFE standards at the same time.
This new engine news is making me second guess my new car plans. After going round and around, I was planning on ordering a new S560 in September. However, an S500 sounds very enticing, so I'm back to considering what to do. It's always something!
This new engine news is making me second guess my new car plans. After going round and around, I was planning on ordering a new S560 in September. However, an S500 sounds very enticing, so I'm back to considering what to do. It's always something!
There won't be a I6 S500 in the U.S. Next generation S-Class maybe, but not during the W222 model cycle.
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07-13-2017, 10:46 AM
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If anyone happens to know...I'm wondering when a facelifted plug-in hybrid might appear, what engine it will have, and whether it would offer AWD?
07-14-2017, 02:46 AM
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From here: http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm I interpret that the plug-in hybrid should have a higher capacity battery and a more powerful electric motor on the facelift.
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07-14-2017, 07:42 AM
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All the models change to the facelift body at the same time. The plug-in hybrid however is not yet on our price list.
From here: http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm I interpret that the plug-in hybrid should have a higher capacity battery and a more powerful electric motor on the facelift.
From here: http://www.jesmb.de/indexie.htm I interpret that the plug-in hybrid should have a higher capacity battery and a more powerful electric motor on the facelift.
07-18-2017, 09:40 AM
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S350d: 2.9-litre inline-six diesel, 286hp, 600Nm
S400d: 2.9-litre inline-six diesel, 340hp, 700Nm
S450: 3.0-litre inline-six petrol, 367hp, 500Nm
S500: 3.0-litre inline-six petrol, 435hp, 520Nm
S560: 4.0-litre V8 petrol, 469hp, 700Nm
S600: 6.0-litre V12 petrol, 530hp, 830Nm
AMG S63: 4.0-litre V8 petrol, 612hp, 900Nm
AMG S65: 6.0-litre V12 petrol, 630hp, 1,000Nm
Maybach S650: 6.0-litre V12 petrol, 630hp, 1,000Nm
S400d: 2.9-litre inline-six diesel, 340hp, 700Nm
S450: 3.0-litre inline-six petrol, 367hp, 500Nm
S500: 3.0-litre inline-six petrol, 435hp, 520Nm
S560: 4.0-litre V8 petrol, 469hp, 700Nm
S600: 6.0-litre V12 petrol, 530hp, 830Nm
AMG S63: 4.0-litre V8 petrol, 612hp, 900Nm
AMG S65: 6.0-litre V12 petrol, 630hp, 1,000Nm
Maybach S650: 6.0-litre V12 petrol, 630hp, 1,000Nm
07-21-2017, 11:52 AM
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07-21-2017, 02:11 PM
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With all the talk of the new I6 engines, what is the story with the new V8 going into the S560? Will this car have the 48 volt system, electric appliances, no belts, etc? If not, when do we think these systems will make it to the V8, or will they?
07-21-2017, 03:01 PM
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It's a new high-efficiency engine design but not a mild hybrid.
07-21-2017, 07:21 PM
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07-22-2017, 04:43 AM
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What I’m really saying is, Mercedes, give us the good stuff! Speaking of good stuff, you had better believe that the 48-volt technology will propagate throughout the Mercedes lineup. The most logical variant will be an inline-four, and that’s definitely coming. There will eventually be a 48-volt mild-hybridized V-8, too. Much more interesting, to me at least, will be the new 6.0-liter V-12, which will essentially be two M256s joined at the crank. If one M256 is 435 horsepower, we’re talking an easy 800 horsepower here, if not more, and that’s in the non-AMG state of tune. 1,000 horsepower electrically assisted beltless 12-cylinder? Me want now. Me bet you want now, too.
07-22-2017, 05:45 AM
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