syswei

from Motor Trend

Like the author, I'm really ticked off that this car won't be coming to the US for now. By the time it does make its way here, I'll be wanting to wait instead for a W223, or an MB EV.

Wolfman

The upcoming S450 with the same lower-powered i6 will deliver a very similar experience and it is coming to the US. That will likely be the MY19 version since switching engines mid-model year would prove very unpopular with customers.

That said, this is the trend ICE's are going in the near term.

docsout

How does the 450 v6 0-60 compare to the current 222 v8? Is the torque still there at lower rpm?

syswei

I assume you mean V6. In my case I just hate the idea of buying a slightly inferior engine when a better one is available in other countries. So if I get a 6-cyl S-Class at all, I just don't want to go for an S450.

syswei

S450 RWD is 0.2 sec slower than the 2017 S550.

S450 4matic is equal to 2017 S550 4matic in 0-60 time.

2018 S450

2017

on the 4matic side, S560 is 0.3s faster than S450: S560

superangrypenguin

Reliability is a concern for me. The Audi A8 is also now launching with mild electric hybrid drive trains.I think I'll wait a few years before buying a car with it. Great concept, but lack of real world 'provenness' worries me.

Wolfman

Always makes sense to be cautious but I don't worry too much the MB engines. They have been developing and building very strong and reliable engines so far.

I don't have that faith in Audi/VAG

michaelleongcl

Is it true that there will be a range of new v12 engines developed from joining two m256 in line 6?

Wolfman

Interestingly enough, the M256 engine will also be used for AMG models. It'll be called 55AMG again

superangrypenguin

I do agree. Audi/VAG have consistently been ahead of the curve with their engine design. Think of the 2.0T FSI engine that pumped out 100hp/L, but then it was plagued with a bunch of cam follower issues, carbon buildup, PCV failures, coil pack failures etc.

While I have had my doubts about MB and Direct Injection, their engines have certainly fared a LOT better in their first iteration in series production than Audi/VAG.

So yes, I wholly agree with your statement.

C280 Sport

I do not see the big deal about a I6 or V6 S Class... The W116, W126 and W140 for the US Market had it. The W220 had it for a year in 2006 with the S350.

Wolfman

The V6 is clearly no big deal; it's simply a budget S-class, more like the S430 (not the S350). Not referring to cylinders here.
The I6 is a dramatically different engine, something that has never existed before and the future trend of ICE' design. So that's a big deal.

C280 Sport

The I6 was in the W140 as well and the W116. BMW has done a I6 Engine for years along with MB.

Wolfman

What makes this engine different has nothing to do with it being an inline 6.
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