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Old 09-08-2017, 08:50 AM
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Whoa, not true at all. Where did you get this from? The E550, ML550, SL600 and S600 Coupe all were cancelled due to them being poor sellers. It had ZERO to do with CAFE standards. These cars would still be around if people bought them. The current E-Class Cabriolet still has a E550 variant. The S550 now S560 isn't going anywhere. The regular wheelbase S600 sedan we cancelled in the U.S. market because next to the Maybach S600 it didn't make sense anymore.

That said the V8 will become an AMG only or a upper S/SL engine option in the future because the new I6 is just that good, see the new Euro S500 with the new I6 making 435hp. Rumors point to a new V12 which would be easy as pie now with the I6 architecture.

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Whoa, now that's news, ii.e., v8 will be only AAMG. The times, they are a changing.
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~30yrs ago...
New S500 costed 35+% more than today's S560 (in '17$)
Prob a hell of a lot less safe tires/brakes/chassis/structures/airbag systems at any speed
Somewhere nr that time US had silly 55MPH speed lims
LA air quality was much worse than today, despite far fewer people/cars
And in ~'85, had first "fast/quick" 500SEL after woeful 380SEL...all in era when wiseguys predicted demise of fast cars, blah-blah

~5yrs ago....
Crude was ~$100/bb; been abt ~$50/bb past 3yrs

Today's new 65s and 911TurboS offer spectacular performance/safety/daily enjoyment on today's (often highly suboptimal) CA roads at a trivial cost vs comparable cars of supposedly great past

Germany, though arguably ~35+% poorer than US, has world's smoothest roads and highest speed/unlimited speed fwys, while spending ~65% less than US per capita on roads

Point is: lots of cycles&obvious absurd asymmetries in life

Suspect in era of >$100K minivans (aka SUVs) or perf cars predominating the most affluent areas of US, S-Class (esp non-65) is largely a limo, w/profits heavily generated in 3rdWorld places like China or NYC/London (and the obvious other 2 engines of profit in auto biz are >$100K minivans and perf cars)

As a repeat buyer of new 65s, I prefer mass scale production/use of S-Class taxi platform (i.e., S560), for faster debugging of chassis&any safety/computer issues of any car daily-driven many miles in 3rdWorld settings like NYC metro's crappy roads vs awful Eastern US weather

I suspect junky eco-engines/gearboxes will come&go given the vastly different buyer bases for >$100K cars: a taxi fleet buyer optimizing costs vs S560 vs a repeat 65 buyer in BevHills who uses a new S65 as a daily commuter car (for a likely <10mi commute on Westside surface sts)....but need scale of taxi S-Classes to quickly debug/iterate 65s (or any MB)
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Germany...has world's smoothest roads and highest speed/unlimited speed fwys, while spending ~65% less than US per capita on roads
Interesting, I'm wondering what might account for the cost disparity, if you (or anyone else) happens to know.
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Is it because the US is 25 times the geographical size as Germany?
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Is it because the US is 25 times the geographical size as Germany?
Hadn't considered it but yes, looking at some numbers, the road network does explain some (but probably not all) of the per capita spending difference. The US has about 4x the population of Germany but about 6x the miles of highway and about 10x the miles total road.
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All we need to do is tax ALL the religious institutions and legalize drugs.....there will be plenty of money left over after we get all new roads to start paying off the national debt and outfit our military with all the guns they need.
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My car is arriving mid September. I sure hope it clears the Baltimore VPC quickly. I'm starting to get excited to take possession of my 2018 model.

Any word on your '18 S Class? Has MBUSA released the 18's yet since I don't think dealers have any 18's yet.
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My Dealer sent me an e-mail on Saturday that the S450 and 450V4 were released for sale on Friday, September 8 and that wholesale activity and shipping commenced that day. It is my understanding that the S560V4 was launched the previous week. My 450 arrived in Baltimore yesterday and the dealer indicated I could expect it early next week.
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Waiting on pictures of your new baby


Originally Posted by powersb
My Dealer sent me an e-mail on Saturday that the S450 and 450V4 were released for sale on Friday, September 8 and that wholesale activity and shipping commenced that day. It is my understanding that the S560V4 was launched the previous week. My 450 arrived in Baltimore yesterday and the dealer indicated I could expect it early next week.
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Originally Posted by MTrauman
Any word on your '18 S Class? Has MBUSA released the 18's yet since I don't think dealers have any 18's yet.
My 560 arrived in Baltimore yesterday as well ( must be on same ship Honor as Powersb). I'm currently at dealer now. They don't have anything further on when it will be released but we also expect it some time next week. Dealer said they have not received an 18 yet and mine may be the first one they get.
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first time I saw 2018 S Class popping up in local delaer inventory today! Seems cars are being released to the dealers...?!

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Originally Posted by quantira2
first time I saw 2018 S Class popping up in local delaer inventory today! Seems cars are being released to the dealers...?!

Hope so. My 2018 S560 status changed to discharged in Baltimore as of 9 am this morning.
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Cool! Make sure to share some detail pictures and your initial impressions/review


Originally Posted by Radman991
Hope so. My 2018 S560 status changed to discharged in Baltimore as of 9 am this morning.
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Has anyone placed an order for an S560 NON 4-Matic? If so, when have you been told it will arrive?
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I like the front end on the non sport model this season, looks great.
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Has anyone placed an order for an S560 NON 4-Matic? If so, when have you been told it will arrive?
I was told end of November or early December. My production date is Nov 1.
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I like the front end on the non sport model this season, looks great.
Me too!
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Getting real close. My 2018 car was unloaded from the ship yesterday and released to a car carrier today. Hopefully have this baby in a couple of days. Will try to post some pics as soon as it hits the dealer. Its in Baltimore and I live in New England.
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Arrived at dealer today. Will take delivery Tuesday.
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What a beauty !! Congrats again.. Need to see way more pictures though


Originally Posted by Radman991
Arrived at dealer today. Will take delivery Tuesday.
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oh man! that front end looks really nice
wonder how long until someone upgrades their front bumper haha

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Been a hectic day. Salesman called me today to sign some paperwork, etc and when I drove into dealership saw them unloading a car carrier. Went right over and asked if they delivered a white S class. Not on this truck but another truck came in earlier today and he tells me he thinks an S class was on it. Points to a car further in the lot and by the wheels I know it's not mine. Crap, I say. Go inside and salesman comes up with a smile. It's here. It's here I say. Yup put it out back with the sold cars. Let's go see it. It still has all the factory plastic and cardboard on the interior. The single pane dash all enclosed in plastic so I didn't get a good look at it. Took a couple of quick exterior pics. Will be delivered Tuesday. Will post more photos at that time.
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Lord why do they make you wait so long?! I'd be unwrapping my own car haha.
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
Lord why do they make you wait so long?! I'd be unwrapping my own car haha.
Believe me I wish it was today. It's due to the salesman being busy. He has deliveries today and has Monday off. I have worked with this salesman for 3 cars now and has been great to me so Tuesday can't come fast enough.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
Quick note on the video; non-US S-Class which has a slightly different options build than in the US.

US has the sport package which provides AMG-like bumpers (design varies from actual AMG bumpers), side skirts and wheels.

In Europe, this is called AMG line and AMG line Plus, which is much more extensive...
Same bumpers/skirts as in the US but you also get the actual AMG steering wheel, proper AMG front seats and AMG logo carpets.
Also more wheel options are available.
which makes me wonder if I can replace non AMG steering with AMG steering in the future?

How much it will cost me to add this feature, and is it easy to install an AMG steering wheel?

I guess it's easy because Europe Specs can give you AMG Line Plus while your car is S450


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