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Old 07-27-2018, 03:22 AM
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Well August is historically the month they release the summer cars too.. hardly ever in July even if they come early.. so I anticipate sometime in August we will all be happy campers with our new cars
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This happens every year LOL!!
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Hey everyone,

Great news for you guys. I am waiting for a 2019 C43 coupe so was just keeping up to date on 2019s in general.

Do any of you know if its a general North American release of just specific to USA? ( I am in Canada) - Thank you.

And congrats to all waiting for their new car.
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That's definitely awesome news for me as well. My 2019 S450 has been in Baltimore since July 11. So, if this the case that MBUSA is releasing these cars early to mid August, then they will likely ship mine to Des Moines around August 7 I imagine.
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Does anyone else not love the new redesigned steering wheel? I have a 2016 so maybe the 2018 already incorporated this new design, I am not sure. But on the '19s, I feel like there is just too much of a chrome look and to me it looks fake (esp that giant dip down the bottom)? Dunno...

I have the first picture below on my current '16 (different wood) and absolutely love it. I ordered the second photo below for the 2019. Even the upgraded style I requested has that silver part going down that kind of dominates the look. I hope I will grow to love it as much as my current one because that is just gorgey with all that lovely wood.



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I feel the same way... especially when I first saw the pictures... but all the new 2019’s are getting in.. the C Class, E and S.... to me it’s just too much chrome.. but I’ll wait to see how it looks in person and like you said hopefully it will grow on me.
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Well, on your 2016, I do not think you have the wood portion of your steering wheel heated. But you will find out in your 2019 that it is... May be that will make up for some of the discomfort you have with the new wheel design.

I also do agree that there is a bit too much chrome look, but overall, I think the steering wheel design is better in looks relative to the previous one. My 2 cents.
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Has anyone heard anything new today on the release date for the 2019 S Class?
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I was going to wait till Aug 1st to bug him since it is a new month. I am assuming if anything was announced today he would have contacted me immediately anyway.
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I was going to wait till Aug 1st to bug him since it is a new month. I am assuming if anything was announced today he would have contacted me immediately anyway.
That's what I thought. Someone posted last week, I believe, that MBUSA would release the 2019 S Class early to mid August. Has anyone else verified this?
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There are also rumors about a 60 day hold possibly going on.. this is with all the 2019’s.. and it could have something to do with Customs too.. when these things happen, it’s all in the air and it could get released at Anytime... be it mid August, Sept or start of Oct.. but it could also be MBUSA buying time to get more 2019s stocked at the VPC centers for all dealers in addition to giving dealers more time to sell as many of the 2018’s as possible
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There are also rumors about a 60 day hold possibly going on.. this is with all the 2019’s.. and it could have something to do with Customs too.. when these things happen, it’s all in the air and it could get released at Anytime... be it mid August, Sept or start of Oct.. but it could also be MBUSA buying time to get more 2019s stocked at the VPC centers for all dealers in addition to giving dealers more time to sell as many of the 2018’s as possible
I heard this too. My sales person told me that MB is "hiding behing a customs excuse". LOL. Gotta love him because he just says it out loud. I think the real reason is to sell more of the 2018s. Not that those of us who ordered 2019s would just go out and buy an 18 but alas, logic is not always first in companies' minds. Tomorrow is the 1st so I will email him for an update.
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Agreed. Talked to my guy too and he said MB has not said anything official and when they do release the cars it will be spontaneous that they find out.

he said it’s not customs because the cars are not getting held up in customs they have already passed customs and most are at the VPC centers which means MB has full control at this point.. but it’s more so to do with sales. Which are not what they expected... and threat of tariffs is not helping.. this could go one of two ways.. they would want to start discounting more to get actual sells or they could try to not at all and loose some sells to gain more profit because of the low sells
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Originally Posted by BigDeeLA
Agreed. Talked to my guy too and he said MB has not said anything official and when they do release the cars it will be spontaneous that they find out.

he said it’s not customs because the cars are not getting held up in customs they have already passed customs and most are at the VPC centers which means MB has full control at this point.. but it’s more so to do with sales. Which are not what they expected... and threat of tariffs is not helping.. this could go one of two ways.. they would want to start discounting more to get actual sells or they could try to not at all and loose some sells to gain more profit because of the low sells
Clearly sales aren't the reason. Most dealers last month didn't have enough stock to begin with and the proof is that Mercedes had a 22 percent sales drop last month because of it. Their SUV sales are being disrupted because of a fire at a supplier that caused production to cease on the GLE and GLS. I don't know why they would hold up the 2019s when a lot of dealers didn't have enough 2018s to sell last month.

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Clearly sales aren't the reason. Most dealers last month didn't have enough stock to begin with and the proof is that Mercedes had a 22 percent sales drop last month because of it. Their SUV sales are being disrupted because of a fire at a supplier that caused production to cease on the GLE and GLS. I don't know why they would hold up the 2019s when a lot of dealers didn't have enough 2018s to sell last month.

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Below is the "official" line on what is going on with low sales numbers. Clearly the supplier fire is having some impact since it is taking 6 mths from my order to Euro Delivery to get my '19 S63 and virtually every other time I have ordered an S class it has been 3 mths from order to stateside delivery.

August 01, 2018 01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA) today reported July sales of 20,034 Mercedes-Benz models, a decrease of 22.7% from July 2017. Mercedes-Benz Vans reported July sales of 2,921 units (up 5.9%) and smart reported 103 units, bringing MBUSA to a grand total of 23,058 vehicles for the month. On a year-to-date basis, sales of Mercedes-Benz vehicles totaled 178,882, with an additional 19,831 units for Vans and 753 vehicles for smart, bringing the sales volume to 199,466, a decrease of 4.4% from last year.

“July sales were impacted by a number of factors, resulting in a temporary dealer inventory shortfall relating to our changeover to model year 2019,” said Dietmar Exler, president and CEO of MBUSA. “We also experienced a mainframe outage which affected our dealers’ ability to conduct business during the busiest week of the month. The IT recovery is nearing completion, and we are working closely with our customers and dealers to help alleviate any inconvenience resulting from the model year 2019 delays. While we expect to replenish our inventory levels in the fall, these developments will likely have a negative impact on sales in the coming months.”

Mercedes-Benz volume leaders in July included the GLE, GLC and C-Class model lines. The GLE took the lead at 4,447, followed closely by GLC sales of 4,446. The C-Class rounded out the top three with 3,841 units sold.

July sales of Mercedes-AMG high-performance totaled 2,008 units, with 17,328 vehicles sold year-to-date.

Separately, Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned (MBCPO) models recorded sales of 10,508 vehicles in July, an increase of 21.4% when compared to the same month last year (8,654). On a year-to-date basis, MBCPO sold 72,629 vehicles, an increase of 5.5% over 2017 (68,848).

About Mercedes-Benz USA

Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA), headquartered in Atlanta, is responsible for the distribution, marketing and customer service for all Mercedes-Benz products in the United States. MBUSA offers drivers the most diverse lineup in the luxury segment with 15 model lines ranging from the sporty CLA-Class four-door coupe to the flagship S-Class and the Mercedes-AMG GT R.

MBUSA is also responsible for Mercedes-Benz Vans and smart products in the U.S. More information on MBUSA and its products can be found at www.mbusa.com, www.mbsprinterusa.com and www.smartusa.com.

Accredited journalists can visit our media site at www.media.mbusa.com. Follow us on Twitter @MBUSAnews.
MERCEDES-BENZ USA

Sales -- July 2018
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SORRY THAT CHART DID NOT TURNOUT OK WHEN THE CUT AND PAST HAPPENED--S Class sales only 630 units in July 2018 vs. 1470 in July 2017
Passenger Vehicles
Jul-18Jul-17Monthly %YTD 2018YTD 2017Yearly %B-CLASS081--
132398-66.8%CLA1,4242,181-34.7%13,14010,68623.0%C-CLASS3,8414,899-21.6%33,50047,451-29.4%E-CLASS/CLS2,2523,876-41.9%25,69228,635-10.3%S-CLASS6301,470-57.1%9,0559,0530.0%SLC127199-36.2%1,3081,815-27.9%SL95154-38.3%1,3511,604-15.8%AMG GT104179-41.9%1,01872041.4%GLA1,3222,223-40.5%13,48412,5837.2%GLC4,4464,00211.1%39,59123,72966.8%GLE4,4473,87914.6%27,18830,708-11.5%GLS1,1842,403-50.7%11,38317,929-36.5%G-CLASS162363-55.4%2,0402,558-20.3%TOTAL20,03425,909-22.7%178,882187,869-4.8%Vans12,9212,7585.9%19,83118,5586.9%smart103182-43.4%7532,165-65.2%MBUSA

Combined Total
Jul-18Jul-17Monthly %YTD 2018YTD 2017Yearly %GRAND TOTAL23,05828,849-20.1%199,466208,592-4.4%1 Mercedes-Benz, Freightliner Sprinter and Metris Vans are sold and marketed in the U.S. by Mercedes-Benz USA and Daimler Vans USA, respectively.

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Originally Posted by MTrauman
Below is the "official" line on what is going on with low sales numbers. Clearly the supplier fire is having some impact since it is taking 6 mths from my order to Euro Delivery to get my '19 S63 and virtually every other time I have ordered an S class it has been 3 mths from order to stateside delivery.

August 01, 2018 01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA) today reported July sales of 20,034 Mercedes-Benz models, a decrease of 22.7% from July 2017. Mercedes-Benz Vans reported July sales of 2,921 units (up 5.9%) and smart reported 103 units, bringing MBUSA to a grand total of 23,058 vehicles for the month. On a year-to-date basis, sales of Mercedes-Benz vehicles totaled 178,882, with an additional 19,831 units for Vans and 753 vehicles for smart, bringing the sales volume to 199,466, a decrease of 4.4% from last year.

“July sales were impacted by a number of factors, resulting in a temporary dealer inventory shortfall relating to our changeover to model year 2019,” said Dietmar Exler, president and CEO of MBUSA. “We also experienced a mainframe outage which affected our dealers’ ability to conduct business during the busiest week of the month. The IT recovery is nearing completion, and we are working closely with our customers and dealers to help alleviate any inconvenience resulting from the model year 2019 delays. While we expect to replenish our inventory levels in the fall, these developments will likely have a negative impact on sales in the coming months.”

Mercedes-Benz volume leaders in July included the GLE, GLC and C-Class model lines. The GLE took the lead at 4,447, followed closely by GLC sales of 4,446. The C-Class rounded out the top three with 3,841 units sold.

July sales of Mercedes-AMG high-performance totaled 2,008 units, with 17,328 vehicles sold year-to-date.

Separately, Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned (MBCPO) models recorded sales of 10,508 vehicles in July, an increase of 21.4% when compared to the same month last year (8,654). On a year-to-date basis, MBCPO sold 72,629 vehicles, an increase of 5.5% over 2017 (68,848).

About Mercedes-Benz USA

Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA), headquartered in Atlanta, is responsible for the distribution, marketing and customer service for all Mercedes-Benz products in the United States. MBUSA offers drivers the most diverse lineup in the luxury segment with 15 model lines ranging from the sporty CLA-Class four-door coupe to the flagship S-Class and the Mercedes-AMG GT R.

MBUSA is also responsible for Mercedes-Benz Vans and smart products in the U.S. More information on MBUSA and its products can be found at www.mbusa.com, www.mbsprinterusa.com and www.smartusa.com.

Accredited journalists can visit our media site at www.media.mbusa.com. Follow us on Twitter @MBUSAnews.
MERCEDES-BENZ USA

Sales -- July 2018
Mercedes-Benz
SORRY THAT CHART DID NOT TURNOUT OK WHEN THE CUT AND PAST HAPPENED--S Class sales only 630 units in July 2018 vs. 1470 in July 2017
Passenger Vehicles
Jul-18Jul-17Monthly %YTD 2018YTD 2017Yearly %B-CLASS081--
132398-66.8%CLA1,4242,181-34.7%13,14010,68623.0%C-CLASS3,8414,899-21.6%33,50047,451-29.4%E-CLASS/CLS2,2523,876-41.9%25,69228,635-10.3%S-CLASS6301,470-57.1%9,0559,0530.0%SLC127199-36.2%1,3081,815-27.9%SL95154-38.3%1,3511,604-15.8%AMG GT104179-41.9%1,01872041.4%GLA1,3222,223-40.5%13,48412,5837.2%GLC4,4464,00211.1%39,59123,72966.8%GLE4,4473,87914.6%27,18830,708-11.5%GLS1,1842,403-50.7%11,38317,929-36.5%G-CLASS162363-55.4%2,0402,558-20.3%TOTAL20,03425,909-22.7%178,882187,869-4.8%Vans12,9212,7585.9%19,83118,5586.9%smart103182-43.4%7532,165-65.2%MBUSA

Combined Total
Jul-18Jul-17Monthly %YTD 2018YTD 2017Yearly %GRAND TOTAL23,05828,849-20.1%199,466208,592-4.4%1 Mercedes-Benz, Freightliner Sprinter and Metris Vans are sold and marketed in the U.S. by Mercedes-Benz USA and Daimler Vans USA, respectively.
The supplier fire has nothing to do with the S-Class. The supplier fire was here in the U.S. and it affected SUV production only. Not sure why the S-Class would be delayed if there is even a real delay.


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The supplier fire has nothing to do with the S-Class. The supplier fire was here in the U.S. and it affected SUV production only. Not sure why the S-Class would be delayed if there is even a real delay.


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Sorry but you are not correct per my dealer and MBUSA. The supplier fire in Michigan directly impacted the metal brackets for the HUD display units in the S Class and the S63 per my MBUSA sources (I assume they are correct). The S Class order guide for the '19 S class has the HUD delayed on the S560 and S450 while the S63 and S65 HUD is only limited availability.
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Sorry but you are not correct per my dealer and MBUSA. The supplier fire in Michigan directly impacted the metal brackets for the HUD display units in the S Class and the S63 per my MBUSA sources (I assume they are correct). The S Class order guide for the '19 S class has the HUD delayed on the S560 and S450 while the S63 and S65 HUD is only limited availability.
I'd assume they're wrong. You do realize that the S63 is built in Germany right? Sorry, but they just fed you that. I'd go by automotive news, a well trusted industry source.

Mercedes-Benz U.S. International Inc., in a statement released from its plant in Vance, Ala., said: "The damage caused at Meridian has caused a shortage of components used in our cockpits for some of our vehicles built at MBUSI. As a result, we have cancelled production shifts in certain areas and adjusted production hours for our team members this week. We continue to assess the situation and are working with Meridian to restore normal production levels."

Mercedes assembles the C class, GL, GLS, GLE and GLE Coupe at the Alabama plant. Meridian supplies a crossbar beam to Mercedes that holds the dashboard in the SUVs.
http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...-supplier-fire
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I'd assume they're wrong. You do realize that the S63 is built in Germany right? Sorry, but they just fed you that. I'd go by automotive news, a well trusted industry source.



http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...-supplier-fire

Are you serious? Or are you just an idiot that does not want to be wrong? Of course I know the S63 is made in Germany--I have been to the factory in Sindelfingen more times than the number of socks you own. How many times have you been to the MB plant in Sindelfingen? The most recent visit was a year ago and my next visit is by the end of this year.

Do you understand what Meridian does?--they are a world supplier even though most parts are sourced locally to a factory the Meridian Magnesium plant sources their unique metallurgical products throughout the world from their Michigan facility.

Sorry but you appear to be a someone who does not want to be proved wrong! What is your issue? A graceful person would simply say they may be wrong but you think you know more than the rest of the world. I feel very sorry for you.


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Are you serious? Or are you just an idiot that does not want to be wrong? Of course I know the S63 is made in Germany--I have been to the factory in Sindelfingen more times than the number of socks you own. How many times have you been to the MB plant in Sindelfingen? The most recent visit was a year ago and my next visit is by the end of this year.

Do you understand what Meridian does?--they are a world supplier even though most parts are sourced locally to a factory the Meridian Magnesium plant sources their unique metallurgical products throughout the world from their Michigan facility.

Sorry but you appear to be a someone who does not want to be proved wrong! What is your issue? A graceful person would simply say they may be wrong but you think you know more than the rest of the world. I feel very sorry for you.
Did I strike a nerve? I just asked if you knew where the car was built, many here have no clue. Yes I know what the supplier does, but nothing I've seen indicates that this has affected S-Class production, that is all I'm saying here. I gave you a source, you didn't give squat beyond what someone told you and your assumption that they were right. If you can prove that it did affect S-Class production I have no problem admitting that I was wrong.

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Did I strike a nerve? I just asked if you knew where the car was built, many here have no clue. Yes I know what the supplier does, but nothing I've seen indicates that this has affected S-Class production, that is all I'm saying here. I gave you a source, you didn't give squat beyond what someone told you and your assumption that they were right. If you can prove that it did affect S-Class production I have no problem admitting that I was wrong.

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The nerve hit was when I said I was picking my S63 up in Germany via Euro Delivery and you asked me if I knew the car was built in Germany. I have read your posts in the past and you seem to like to create controversy. So I thought your question was like many other of your posts that simply stir people up. Have a good evening my friend!

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The nerve hit was when I said I was picking my S63 up in Germany via Euro Delivery and you asked me if I knew the car was built in Germany. I have read your posts in the past and you seem to like to create controversy. So I thought your question was like many other of your posts that simply stir people up. Have a good evening my friend!
Which is why I asked because I haven't see anything that this issue affected the S-Class, that's all. Nope I just cringe at all the misinformation and nonsense here. You've got plenty of people here the stir things up with all kinds of ridiculous nonsense and it's taken as fact. It's ridiculous.

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So it is Aug 3rd and I have not heard anything yet about my S560. Anyone else?
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Originally Posted by MTrauman
Below is the "official" line on what is going on with low sales numbers. Clearly the supplier fire is having some impact since it is taking 6 mths from my order to Euro Delivery to get my '19 S63 and virtually every other time I have ordered an S class it has been 3 mths from order to stateside delivery.

August 01, 2018 01:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time
ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA) today reported July sales of 20,034 Mercedes-Benz models, a decrease of 22.7% from July 2017. Mercedes-Benz Vans reported July sales of 2,921 units (up 5.9%) and smart reported 103 units, bringing MBUSA to a grand total of 23,058 vehicles for the month. On a year-to-date basis, sales of Mercedes-Benz vehicles totaled 178,882, with an additional 19,831 units for Vans and 753 vehicles for smart, bringing the sales volume to 199,466, a decrease of 4.4% from last year.

“July sales were impacted by a number of factors, resulting in a temporary dealer inventory shortfall relating to our changeover to model year 2019,” said Dietmar Exler, president and CEO of MBUSA. “We also experienced a mainframe outage which affected our dealers’ ability to conduct business during the busiest week of the month. The IT recovery is nearing completion, and we are working closely with our customers and dealers to help alleviate any inconvenience resulting from the model year 2019 delays. While we expect to replenish our inventory levels in the fall, these developments will likely have a negative impact on sales in the coming months.”

Mercedes-Benz volume leaders in July included the GLE, GLC and C-Class model lines. The GLE took the lead at 4,447, followed closely by GLC sales of 4,446. The C-Class rounded out the top three with 3,841 units sold.

July sales of Mercedes-AMG high-performance totaled 2,008 units, with 17,328 vehicles sold year-to-date.

Separately, Mercedes-Benz Certified Pre-Owned (MBCPO) models recorded sales of 10,508 vehicles in July, an increase of 21.4% when compared to the same month last year (8,654). On a year-to-date basis, MBCPO sold 72,629 vehicles, an increase of 5.5% over 2017 (68,848).

About Mercedes-Benz USA

Mercedes-Benz USA (MBUSA), headquartered in Atlanta, is responsible for the distribution, marketing and customer service for all Mercedes-Benz products in the United States. MBUSA offers drivers the most diverse lineup in the luxury segment with 15 model lines ranging from the sporty CLA-Class four-door coupe to the flagship S-Class and the Mercedes-AMG GT R.

MBUSA is also responsible for Mercedes-Benz Vans and smart products in the U.S. More information on MBUSA and its products can be found at www.mbusa.com, www.mbsprinterusa.com and www.smartusa.com.

Accredited journalists can visit our media site at www.media.mbusa.com. Follow us on Twitter @MBUSAnews.
MERCEDES-BENZ USA

Sales -- July 2018
Mercedes-Benz
SORRY THAT CHART DID NOT TURNOUT OK WHEN THE CUT AND PAST HAPPENED--S Class sales only 630 units in July 2018 vs. 1470 in July 2017
Passenger Vehicles
Jul-18Jul-17Monthly %YTD 2018YTD 2017Yearly %B-CLASS081--
132398-66.8%CLA1,4242,181-34.7%13,14010,68623.0%C-CLASS3,8414,899-21.6%33,50047,451-29.4%E-CLASS/CLS2,2523,876-41.9%25,69228,635-10.3%S-CLASS6301,470-57.1%9,0559,0530.0%SLC127199-36.2%1,3081,815-27.9%SL95154-38.3%1,3511,604-15.8%AMG GT104179-41.9%1,01872041.4%GLA1,3222,223-40.5%13,48412,5837.2%GLC4,4464,00211.1%39,59123,72966.8%GLE4,4473,87914.6%27,18830,708-11.5%GLS1,1842,403-50.7%11,38317,929-36.5%G-CLASS162363-55.4%2,0402,558-20.3%TOTAL20,03425,909-22.7%178,882187,869-4.8%Vans12,9212,7585.9%19,83118,5586.9%smart103182-43.4%7532,165-65.2%MBUSA

Combined Total
Jul-18Jul-17Monthly %YTD 2018YTD 2017Yearly %GRAND TOTAL23,05828,849-20.1%199,466208,592-4.4%1 Mercedes-Benz, Freightliner Sprinter and Metris Vans are sold and marketed in the U.S. by Mercedes-Benz USA and Daimler Vans USA, respectively.


Thanks, Trauman! What about the fact that some 2019 S Class vehicles are already at VPC in Baltimore? I ordered the 2019 S450 back in April with the HUD and I have it confirmed that it does indeed have it. However, it has been sitting in Baltimore since July 11. Why in the world is MBUSA not releasing it?


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