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Alishami 06-01-2018 06:30 PM

What's the best non-runflat tires W222
 
Hello guys,

I was just wondering what are the best non-run flat tires for the S500 in terms of comfort and performance. I went through the posts here in the forum and found some of you mentioned that the Bridgestone serenity plus is the best.

I live in Dubai so it must be suitable for the hot weather here and I got the 20 inches AMG wheels. Btw, the Goodyear tires that come preinstalled are really bad after only driving 10,300 kms I had to change them as they started getting worn out and leaking air.

superpop 06-01-2018 07:02 PM

I have always had good luck with Michelin A/S3 tires. Probably the direction I will go once my RFT's wear out.

Streamliner 06-01-2018 11:05 PM

I’ve had six sets of the Serenity tires, first on a Lexus, then on my S550 and now on my S560. I live on the coast in Southern California, so it never gets too hot, but these are my all time favorite tires. That said, I have 18” wheels and do not know if they are made in 20”.

1bad540 06-02-2018 09:24 AM

Im running conti dws.

Jason B 06-04-2018 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by superpop (Post 7468334)
I have always had good luck with Michelin A/S3 tires. Probably the direction I will go once my RFT's wear out.

Yep, what he said, and there is now a plus version which is newer version that came out a year ago about. Michelin A/S3 +

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1fa9508bf.jpeg

I love them and it's super quiet. I went from 19's continental, to these in 20" and they're awesome!

hyperion667 06-04-2018 01:14 PM

Michelin

Jason B 06-04-2018 01:21 PM

http://rideonadv.com/wp-content/uplo...helin_logo.jpg

Detailingdoc 06-04-2018 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by Jason B (Post 7470171)
Yep, what he said, and there is now a plus version which is newer version that came out a year ago about. Michelin A/S3 +

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1fa9508bf.jpeg

I love them and it's super quiet. I went from 19's continental, to these in 20" and they're awesome!

where did you find the michelin a/s 3+ for the staggered 20"? I didnt see them in tire rack etc

Jason B 06-04-2018 04:36 PM

I'm running 275/35/20 and 255/35/20, which would could also run on yours and still be within spec for the awd in the sizes :) Good to go.

Detailingdoc 06-04-2018 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Jason B (Post 7470400)
I'm running 275/35/20 and 255/35/20, which would could also run on yours and still be within spec for the awd in the sizes :) Good to go.

Thanks i assume they also work for Rwd. Id woukd hate for them to invalidate my tire and wheel warranty due to non stock tire size.

Alishami 06-04-2018 09:54 PM

Thanks everyone for your recommendations. Much appreciated!!

Unfortuantely, I had to go for the Pirelli P zero runflat tires because the dealership here claimed that they can void the warranty if I used non-run flat tires since they’re not recommended for the car according to them.

Jason B 06-04-2018 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Alishami (Post 7470703)
Thanks everyone for your recommendations. Much appreciated!!

Unfortuantely, I had to go for the Pirelli P zero runflat tires because the dealership here claimed that they can void the warranty if I used non-run flat tires since they’re not recommended for the car according to them.

That's false info and I wish I lived there and could have a nice convo with the service manager, then owner.

Alishami 06-04-2018 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jason B (Post 7470746)
That's false info and I wish I lived there and could have a nice convo with the service manager, then owner.

I got your point and I do understand that using a non-runflat tire won’t affect the car, but I had to follow the dealer instructions in order to avoid future problems with their warranty.

hyperion667 06-05-2018 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Alishami (Post 7470703)
Thanks everyone for your recommendations. Much appreciated!!

Unfortuantely, I had to go for the Pirelli P zero runflat tires because the dealership here claimed that they can void the warranty if I used non-run flat tires since they’re not recommended for the car according to them.

What the......where do you live Sir?

Jason B 06-05-2018 08:28 AM

OK nobody mentioned the Magnussen Moss Act. Look it up. What it means to you is that if you have an aftermarket part on your car the dealer/manufacturer of your car can not void any claims for warranty coverage unless they can prove the aftermarket part was a direct cause of the failure.
No speculation / BS / or anything else.. just look up the facts then tell the dealer where to stick it.
Change your tires all you want. Sometimes is also easier to just go to a different dealer that isn’t always thin in about money first.

also what’s funny is run flats will wear out suspensions faster than non but we won’t stay that debate. Lol. Non run flat uses more of the tires to help soak up bumps, less work.

1bad540 06-05-2018 08:30 AM

I never get the tire/wheel warty....I change all my wheels/tires anyway so i never really have the ones that came on it for long. I usually just upgrade to the largest factory wheel or something cool that I like.

Alishami 06-06-2018 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by hyperion667 (Post 7470924)
What the......where do you live Sir?

Dubai, UAE Sir.

Alishami 06-06-2018 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jason B (Post 7470939)
OK nobody mentioned the Magnussen Moss Act. Look it up. What it means to you is that if you have an aftermarket part on your car the dealer/manufacturer of your car can not void any claims for warranty coverage unless they can prove the aftermarket part was a direct cause of the failure.
No speculation / BS / or anything else.. just look up the facts then tell the dealer where to stick it.
Change your tires all you want. Sometimes is also easier to just go to a different dealer that isn’t always thin in about money first.

also what’s funny is run flats will wear out suspensions faster than non but we won’t stay that debate. Lol. Non run flat uses more of the tires to help soak up bumps, less work.

Interesting!!

Unfortunately, I don’t have an idea if there is a similar act or rule here.

What’s more frustrating is that the Michelin dealer here said that if you installed non-runflat tires on this car which we don’t recommended then we won’t give you the tire warranty.

I wonder why German manufactures went for the runflat tires while their cars are alll about comfort especially when it comes to cars like the S-Class.

Does RollsRoyce do the same thing?


Jason B 06-07-2018 02:13 PM

These cars DO NOT come with RUN FLATS in Germany, where Mercedes is born and bred. Why? Because it doesn't ride as well.

Streamliner 06-07-2018 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Jason B (Post 7473154)
These cars DO NOT come with RUN FLATS in Germany, where Mercedes is born and bred. Why? Because it doesn't ride as well.

Are we sure about this? If there is still no room for a spare, are Germans relying solely on the sealant/pump thing if they get a flat? On the Autobahn???

flint350 06-07-2018 06:27 PM

This discussion caused me to look into the Premium Tire Protection plan Mercedes sold me and it clearly states that aftermarket tires and wheels are covered as long as they meet the manufacturer's specs. I don't think specs includes run-flat or not, just tire sizes and wheels, though I could be wrong. I have the 20" wheels with Goodyear F1 runflats, but they are summer tires and I will need winter tires also. Pirelli has Sottozero Series II in both normal and run-flat 19 and 20" which I am considering. If I switch to non-runflats it would probably be better to change the summer tires to Serenity and keep the run-flats for winter, but this would mean 19" summer and 20" winter.

Jason B 06-07-2018 07:03 PM

I think it would specifically say "Run Flats". If it doesn't, you're in the clear. Many dealers don't get it and just think and say that because the car came in with it. Do you know how many thousands of cars dealers have swapped out the run flats for at Mercedes dealers since the w222 came out? A lot.


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