Bye-Bye V12
According to this article, AMG is dropping the V12 engine. https://www.automobilemag.com/news/m...08723A8BFA8263 |
Very sad day. Those engines are so smooth! Even my 2006 CL600 being 2 generations back is super smooth and quite.
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Once you go 457 ft lbs of torque (with the BMW 540d diesel) you never go back! :y
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I wonder if the prices of current used V12s will hold steady or even rise from this news?
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Im thinking the price of V12s will hold with a cult following keeping prices higher than normal.
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Originally Posted by Streamliner
(Post 7573083)
According to this article, AMG is dropping the V12 engine. https://www.automobilemag.com/news/m...08723A8BFA8263 Get the BMW M760! |
That's terrible being a V12 enthusiast
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Originally Posted by BenzV12
(Post 7573676)
That's terrible being a V12 enthusiast
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The V12 isnt about speed, its about luxury and smoothness... Can't do that with a V8
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Oh no the world IS ending!
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Originally Posted by listerone
(Post 7573383)
Once you go 457 ft lbs of torque (with the BMW 540d diesel) you never go back! :y
Originally Posted by MBS63AMG
(Post 7573442)
I wonder if the prices of current used V12s will hold steady or even rise from this news?
Originally Posted by nishboo
(Post 7573449)
Im thinking the price of V12s will hold with a cult following keeping prices higher than normal.
Originally Posted by nishboo
(Post 7573749)
The V12 isnt about speed, its about luxury and smoothness... Can't do that with a V8
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Originally Posted by listerone
(Post 7573383)
Once you go 457 ft lbs of torque (with the BMW 540d diesel) you never go back! :y
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Originally Posted by syswei
(Post 7573722)
Hybrid V8 will perform quite a bit better, though, 800 hp and more torque too.
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It's been a legendary motor in production for over 15 years, but I guess all great things must pass. Long live the M275 V12 TT
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Rumor has it the V12 is being replaced with a V14.8 :)
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Originally Posted by C280 Sport
(Post 7573838)
It is not about performance. It is how smooth luxurious the engine is. Unless you have owned or driven one it is not easy to understand.
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Originally Posted by C280 Sport
(Post 7573836)
And that has what to do with a V12 engine? Oh ya nothing!
I drove a VW SUV with a V-10 diesel...an experience I'll never forget. Just sayin'... |
I am extremely partial to the AMG V-12's, I own 3 of them. Also own a new E63S so I have a direct comparison of the new AMG 4.0 V8 to the V12. My thought is that by not investing in the V12 any longer AMG can put more resources into an all electric platform that is better than the Tesla and tuned for enthusiasts. I am good with that.
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Originally Posted by Quadrobenz
(Post 7574387)
I am extremely partial to the AMG V-12's, I own 3 of them. Also own a new E63S so I have a direct comparison of the new AMG 4.0 V8 to the V12. My thought is that by not investing in the V12 any longer AMG can put more resources into an all electric platform that is better than the Tesla and tuned for enthusiasts. I am good with that.
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Originally Posted by Quadrobenz
(Post 7574387)
I am extremely partial to the AMG V-12's, I own 3 of them. Also own a new E63S so I have a direct comparison of the new AMG 4.0 V8 to the V12. My thought is that by not investing in the V12 any longer AMG can put more resources into an all electric platform that is better than the Tesla and tuned for enthusiasts. I am good with that.
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The sounds of silence! The V12's are not that loud but they do sound really good. My new SL65 even makes the same snapping and backfire sounds as the E63S. With the top down it is almost too much fun. I will sure miss those engines but electric motors can do things even V12 Biturbos cannot do.
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Originally Posted by syswei
(Post 7574261)
I have not driven a V12. But, if one is patient, eventually MB will have pure EV drivetrains that both outperform the V12, and are smoother and quieter. Hybrid comes first for AMG, then pure EV.
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Originally Posted by listerone
(Post 7574344)
IOW you've never driven a mid sized sedan that featured that much torque.OK,fair enough. And I've never driven a V12 before...but a few years ago
I drove a VW SUV with a V-10 diesel...an experience I'll never forget. Just sayin'... |
Originally Posted by Quadrobenz
(Post 7574420)
The sounds of silence! The V12's are not that loud but they do sound really good. My new SL65 even makes the same snapping and backfire sounds as the E63S. With the top down it is almost too much fun. I will sure miss those engines but electric motors can do things even V12 Biturbos cannot do.
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Originally Posted by Bahnstormer
(Post 7574394)
Do you think the visceral experience and pleasure of driving a powerful gasoline engined car with a throaty exhaust note will be diminished by the quietness of the electric motor?
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