raja777m

Hello guys, I currently have 2014 E350 4Matic. If I ever shop for another E-class, I would look for these options for sure.
1. Massage seats,
2. 360 camera
3. Distronic Plus with lane dept. etc.
4. LED Lightning package.
5. Diamond Series body painting for the exterior.
6. Probably 4Matic.
Wheels, Wooden Steering wheels can be purchased off of craigslist/eBay, as I did for both and lucky enough to get a match on the interior leather and wood trim for the steering wheel.

This way, what are the options that you would not miss if in case you want to buy S-class in future?
Magic body control? night-vision camera? HUD? Cold Ventilated seats?

Not in a market for 2-3 years anyway and not sure I'll go with a sedan again, but wanted to know more from you guys.
Thanks in advance.

Disclaimer, I'm cheap, I would definitely buy a used S-class under factory warranty one and buy ELW from MB. Unless the depreciation is sucked up by the dealer, in any case I highly doubt.
PS. I got my 2014 E350 under factory warranty/43kMiles in April 2017 for 28k from a Nissan dealer (sticker is around 72k). I spent money on MB ELW. The reason it was listed so low is because, the Nissan people didn't know what Distronic Plus, 360Camera, Massage seats, Parktronic worth. I learned not to buy a used car from the manufacturer/ OE dealer, as they jack up the prices (otherwise it would diminish the value of other new vehicles in the lot).

superangrypenguin

Just so you know you cannot get MBC with 4matic.

1bad540

gotta be 4 matic, amg sport, diamond white, nappa int. wheels for me I agree w you can be bought after.

lika1

I agree with the options you have listed which I have as well, but I also "needed" power rear seat package (w/ heat and cool), HUD, heated windshield, and warmth & comfort package which gives you heated steering wheel and heated side panels (I live in Colorado). I totally agree with the wheels, you can get better ones later.

raja777m

I believe Diamond white is a fairly common color along with Black and Polar White. Is that correct?
I liked the Matte (magno) colors also, probably not a S-class style I guess.

raja777m

I didn't know about these, is there a name for that I can use it to search/filter with? Like warmth package etc.
Thanks.

raja777m

I also wanted to know, what are your opinions on MBC?

MBNUT1

That's my line

salamigs

I am not rich enough to buy anything used... On the average you will be worse off buying used... Yes, you can get lucky once or twice, but when you average it out...

superpop

When talking high end luxury cars it never makes sense to buy new. I purchased my 2015 S550 with 17K miles and factory warranty remaining for 59K or half of what it cost new. Financially you get raped on these cars when new, especially if you only keep them for a few years. And I am rich enough to buy any car I want brand new but I do not like to light my money on fire and watch it burn. I will drive my 2015 for 3 years or so and then sell it for around 35K, just like I did on my last S class. Tires and brakes will set me back another 1500 so all in I am at 26.5K for 3 years of ownership. That is just over 700 per month, I challenge you to find a 36 month lease on a new 120K S class for anywhere near that. Maybe if you are talking a Honda Accord or Camry then it might make sense to buy new but the S Class drops like a rock in value in the first 3 years.

salamigs

When you do not know what the previous owner did to the vehicle then sky is the limit with respect to what can happen. A friend of mine bought a used 7 series, which was after the pre-sale inspection and all. He had an accident, and none of the airbags deployed, because there was nothing to deploy. They were all stripped out and probably sold for parts. BMW center had cleared this vehicle for sale as well (then they realized why, but it was too late). His family sued a lot of people and won some and lost some, but it sadly is not bringing him back... And that is not worth any money in my opinion. So when you do math, things may make sense, but when you get into the thick of things, logic stops...

I will give you one more example... For one of the maids working in our house, I had purchased a used iPhone. Worked perfectly fine for a month, then it stopped. I tried all the debug methods to no avail. As a last resort I took it to the Apple Store in the mall, and they said they would call me in about half an hour. I received a call from them within two minutes, and they called me back to the shop. What they told me was mind boggling; there was not even one genuine Apple part remaining within the case, other than the case and the screen... They did not even put it back together, handed the parts to me in a bag .

So lesson learned. Brand new for me. If I cannot afford a particular item brand new, then I will not look for a used one of the same, instead I will look for a cheaper version (some other brand, some other class...) but still brand new.

superpop

Sorry sal but these are poor examples. Any modern car monitors the airbags for faults like being removed, this sounds like an extremely rare and highly litigious example, and there are countless examples of Takata airbags being faulty out of the box in new cars. So can I assume that you purchased your house new as well? Not trying to sound argumentative here but any financial expert will tell you to never buy a car new because of the depreciation. I get the Iphone example and actually agree with you here. I do not buy any electronics used but these are sub 1K purchases in most cases. Telling someone they will be better off spending 120K on a new S Class from a financial standpoint is foolish advice. Nothing against folks that buy new but any one of them would tell you they are paying a big premium for the new car smell and experience. I have purchased 2 lightly used S class sedans in a row now and both have been very reasonable on cost and safety.

Streamliner

superpop

salamigs

You have been lucky. The trick on the airbag was a small but creative device for the vehicle to think that they were still there. All 7 of them (only driver side apparently had a knee airbag in that model). When crooks want something, they can get really creative it looks like. This incident happened in Europe btw, not in the US. Yes, I pretty much built all my houses, except the ones I inherited, which are close enough to me building them anyways. I did however, try to purchase a house from someone in the US and fortunately the inspection process prevented me to get into a huge mess; which only strengthened my argument above for myself.

And to answer Streamliner, I am 50% in the US (West Coast) and 50% in Turkey (again West Coast).

Rockland

superpop

Not sure how you got a 19% discount on a new benz but good for you if you did. Regardless I stand by my contention that you are almost always better off buying used when it comes to luxury cars from a financial standpoint. Either that or you are right and all of the financial experts are just plain wrong. The biggest depreciation hit these cars see is in the first 3 years. After that it is still bad but not so dramatic.

salamigs

superpop, you are mathematically correct. But when you factor in the real world variables, you can go wrong so fast, you will not know what hit you. I hope you never will have to find out and your way of doing business will continue doing well for you.

Also do remember that for you to be able to buy used, someone needs to buy it new

Rockland

1bad540

It all depends on what your needs are/budget. Cpo cars in the U.s.a are hard to beat. Im sure in Turkey there are all sorts of scams

salamigs

Actually Turkey is much better than the US when it comes to these things. They have been trying to crack the EU door for a long time now (never will happen, but that is a different story) and to that effect, they have been employing many different rules and regulations that EU has been keen on. I do not think I need to mention EU being couple orders of magnitude stricter than the US across the spectrum here (those of you who do business with any EU country will understand what I mean).

My beloved vehicle back home is a 2000 E39, which needs to be taken through the what is called a "visa" process to be traffic-worthy every other year. Just like the US. But in the US, they do a glance around and do an OBD read and it takes literally 5 minutes (which is very convenient, but sadly not even close to being right...). In Turkey this appointment lasts for about 3.5 hours per vehicle (and also costs quite a bit). I was turned down once because the path for the left headlight on the E39 was off by 2 degrees. The smallest thing they see wrong, they will not renew the "visa" for the vehicle, and it will be impounded as soon as the current visa runs out (or on the spot right there, depending on the offense). While this is very annoying, it helps safety on the roads, and also helped take the second hand market to where it is today. There are many cases where people sell their used vehicles after 1-2 years of use, for more than what they bought it for (adjusted for inflation). This is mostly due to the campaigns the brands runs towards the end of the year, or when they are stuck... I just ordered an S560 Maybach for my mom to be driven in, and despite the 250% tariffs and taxes on it, I know I will not lose more than 15-20% after 5 years of use.

In the same spirit however, they are doing another right thing, and will be declaring most of the vehicles over 20 years of age not traffic worthy (except classics, which can only be on certain roads and only during permitted times), and will be buying them back. Sadly my E39 will be there, thinking about registering it in Cyprus so that I do not lose it...

But crooks are crooks, and they will always find a way to beat the system. However, I see them more active in the US in this context than in Turkey. Now if you want to talk about internet scams, that is a totally different topic .

lika1

For a vehicle to be CPO'd here in the US, it's a lot more than a walk around and OBD read. The vehicle has to have all records pulled from the dealer that maintained it, and it does go through a thorough inspection. That's why they offer a warranty, and as of recently, with unlimited miles! I have a friend who bought a W222 as well; because the car was in an accident and the passenger door had to be repaired, it could not be CPO'd. I've been going to my dealership for almost 20 years now, and I have never had to question their integrity when dealing with CPO cars.

raja777m

Does S-class comes with those under the seat storage boxes for both the driver and passenger (front) seats like my E-class?
2009 acura rdx had one under the arm rest for the doors I believe. Sneaky but good.

salamigs

Yup, tough to beat the CPOs through credible dealers. But once you get fooled, you may and will end up paying the price...

superangrypenguin

Let's see.

MB Canada is giving $10K off of a new S. Add on the fact that you KNOW the margin is 7% for a new car here. Once all is said and done, CPO models for S classes that are a year or two old no longer make financial sense.

That's why I'd rather buy new.