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Old 01-04-2019, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1 View Post
Yep because it's clearly an Aston Martin, you guys believe anything here lol. Autobild renders went to dogs years ago.

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Autocar Uk feels the same way...

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ocused-sl-2020
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Old 01-04-2019, 12:17 AM
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You do realize that the render is done by one entity and bought/used by whomever right?

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Old 01-04-2019, 02:00 AM
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SL will be a ragtop now. But I doubt that will actually last long and will be cut soon too. Not many sales of the SL

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Not going to happen. The SL will stay as much as the S-Class. Too much history for Mercedes. While the current SL should have looked better, the car has not lost sales to other convertibles. It's a segmentation issue.
Roadsters as a category are having a tough time. The AMG GT is a good example. Sells well as a coupe, poorly as a roadster and this is a great looking car without some of the design comprises inflicted on the R231. It is just more sporty and lacking many of the GT/luxury touches.
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Old 01-04-2019, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1 View Post
Not sure, but either way all indications are that the coupe is gone and the next SL is replacing it. I'm excited to see what they come up with.

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Coupe is going and Cab + SL becomes SL
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Old 01-04-2019, 11:40 AM
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Here's a question. Will there be a coupe version of the SL? Too, too hot here for convertibles.
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Old 01-04-2019, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RJC View Post
Without going into the quality of these images, it is important to realize that all are just artistic interpretations, using elements of the known upcoming design language. Prior S Class and SL were laughably off the mark.
Renders only become accurate when the car is in its near final stage sporting camouflage.
So far I have been surprised that there is nothing out being tested in any stage (mule, etc.) so the cars intro date will be out for a while
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Old 01-04-2019, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post

Without going into the quality of these images, it is important to realize that all are just artistic interpretations, using elements of the known upcoming design language. Prior S Class and SL were laughably off the mark.
Renders only become accurate when the car is in its near final stage sporting camouflage.
So far I have been surprised that there is nothing out being tested in any stage (mule, etc.) so the cars intro date will be out for a while


Of course I realize this, but I really like what I've seen so far and it appears to be a 2+2 and has some under-tones of the SLS roadster.

This and the image I posted appear to be the latest of what's out there...I tried to find someting in Auto Motor und Sport but nothing I could find thus far.

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Old 01-04-2019, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Germancar1 View Post
You do realize that the render is done by one entity and bought/used by whomever right?

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Old 01-04-2019, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by docsout View Post
Here's a question. Will there be a coupe version of the SL? Too, too hot here for convertibles.
From what's been said here and what I've seen it doesn't look like it...if they continued with the folding hardtop it could have been the best of both worlds...
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Old 01-07-2019, 08:49 PM
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From the C/A217 forum

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Originally Posted by jbattan
The SL will turn into a 2+2 soft top in only AMG variants (43, 53, 63, and maybe someday 73).
The next S Cabriolet will come from the Vision 6.

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Old 01-10-2019, 06:59 PM
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From what I've been told the 2019MY will be the last for the S coupes and cabs, too bad. Anyone heard anything to the contrary? I'd magine this won't be very good for resale vaues.

Cross posting on w222 forum due to lthe very ow activity on the 217 forum.
You were misinformed. I just spoke with MB in Atlanta HQ and they are NOT discontinuing the S coupe. It will see a revision in 2022 possibly 2023. The cabriolet will also continue. They will NEVER do away with their flagship coupe. PERIOD. That is straight from Mercedes Benz. They might not continue making the Cab after the revision but for now, the car is tooled and any money they make on the cars is better than nothing. Sales seem to be pretty good on all but the Cabs. I live where convertibles rule and I've only seen 1 in the four years they have been produced. Bentley's Convertibles rule here, you can see one at every intersection.

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Old 01-10-2019, 07:53 PM
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The SLC and the S/Coupe cabrio are going away, the rest are staying so all of them are NOT going. The SL is being redesigned, as are the C Coupe and Convertible, ditto for the E Coupe and Cabrio. The E Coupe/Cabrio models made up 25% of the E_Class sales in the U.S. so they clearly aren't going anywhere.

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If the E class Cabrio were to disappear, it would be my last Mercedes purchase.
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Old 01-11-2019, 01:01 AM
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If the E class Cabrio were to disappear, it would be my last Mercedes purchase.
I don't see why it would, it and the Coupe made up 25% of E-Class sales in the U.S. last year. That is a really healthy amount in today's crossover obsessed world.

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Old 01-11-2019, 08:42 PM
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You were misinformed. I just spoke with MB in Atlanta HQ and they are NOT discontinuing the S coupe. It will see a revision in 2022 possibly 2023. The cabriolet will also continue. They will NEVER do away with their flagship coupe. PERIOD. That is straight from Mercedes Benz. They might not continue making the Cab after the revision but for now, the car is tooled and any money they make on the cars is better than nothing. Sales seem to be pretty good on all but the Cabs. I live where convertibles rule and I've only seen 1 in the four years they have been produced. Bentley's Convertibles rule here, you can see one at every intersection.
I would be happy if they are. Personally I find the coupe one of the best looking Mercedes models in a long time. It is highly regarded, well liked and the non-AMG halo car. I recently checked out the new BMW M850i and that car is the opposite of the S-Class coupe. Huge B-pillar, dark, cramped feeling in a large car, low head room, low visibility, etc. The S-Class coupe interior sets standards. Airy and luxurious. A very nice place to be

But unless you have deep connections at the MBUSA management level that would give you off the record insights; calling MB is like calling Apple and asking somebody that answers the phone about their upcoming model strategy. Don't expect actual info coming your way...
The Coupe/cab has been facelifted more comprehensively with tech/engine updates; this is an investment that has not been afforded to the SL. To some extend this speaks to the ongoing production at least in the short-term, but word in Germany is that the model is EOL.


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Old 01-11-2019, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
I would be happy if they are. Personally I find the coupe one of the best looking Mercedes models in a long time. It is highly regarded, well liked and the non-AMG halo car. I recently checked out the new BMW M850i and that car is the opposite of the S-Class coupe. Huge B-pillar, dark, cramped feeling in a large car, low head room, low visibility, etc. The S-Class coupe interior sets standards. Airy and luxurious. A very nice place to be

But unless you have deep connections at the MBUSA management level that would give you off the record insights; calling MB is like calling Apple and asking somebody that answers the phone about their upcoming model strategy. Don't expect actual info coming your way...
The Coupe/cab has been facelifted more comprehensively with tech/engine updates; this is an investment that has not been afforded to the SL. To some extend this speaks to the ongoing production at least in the short-term, but word in Germany is that the model is EOL.
+1 on all accounts in both paragraphs...and even if he did have deep connections, I would imagine they would not be very pleased he leaked this kind intel, but maybe they just don't care?

Re similar posts on 217 forum where someone had their dealer call Germany: Very surprised MB in Germany is factually confirming future models a year out with US dealers and letting them disclose it to the public? I will pass this info on to mine and see what they have to say. i am glad the coupes will continue as i liked both of mine.

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Old 01-12-2019, 04:09 PM
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I guess this is how the phase out and SL 2+2 talk got started in the first place
https://www2.motorauthority.com/news...hots-and-video
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I guess this is how the phase out and SL 2+2 talk got started in the first place
https://www2.motorauthority.com/news...hots-and-video
Well, Everything on the Internet is true!
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I guess this is how the phase out and SL 2+2 talk got started in the first place
https://www2.motorauthority.com/news...hots-and-video
There was discussion on pruning the line-up as early as 2017 by Zetschke but nothing is carved in stone. These cars have always been niche cars and many US customers have moved away from these. I wonder even how the new Bentley Continentals will sell. They already loose between $20k-$30k per vehicle on average (new cars are discounted up to $90k). Since China doesn't take to these cars it just becomes a very small numbers game.
Sad for me as I don't care for SUV's for anything else but utility vehicles.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman View Post
There was discussion on pruning the line-up as early as 2017 by Zetschke but nothing is carved in stone. These cars have always been niche cars and many US customers have moved away from these. I wonder even how the new Bentley Continentals will sell. They already loose between $20k-$30k per vehicle on average (new cars are discounted up to $90k). Since China doesn't take to these cars it just becomes a very small numbers game.
Sad for me as I don't care for SUV's for anything else but utility vehicles.
Yes I agree...I think the jury may still be out, but I'd really like to see the big coupes continue
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I canít speak for the Coupe, as I have not driven one. But I did just drive a 2019 S560 Cab and thought the driving dynamics to be heavy, bloated, ponderous and just downright horrible. Everything about my S560 sedan is better. For an open MB, IMO, the now long in the tooth SL is still a much better choice.

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Speaking of the SL...here's Lexus' answer...and it appears to be a 2+2

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The S coupe is big, heavy, etc. It's a luxury cruiser. The current SL is....not pretty and by comparison of previous models has been a relative failure for MB. Excepting the facelift R230. That was also considered to be a flop. There's room in the market for the S coupe and the SL. They are a niche segment, and the cost reflects that.

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I canít speak for the Coupe, as I have not driven one. But I did just drive a 2019 S560 Cab and thought the driving dynamics to be heavy, bloated, ponderous and just downright horrible. Everything about my S560 sedan is better. For an open MB, IMO, the now long in the tooth SL is still a much better choice.
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I like my 2018 S63 coupe a lot. I hope they continue.

And the newer ones 18+ are even better especially due to the 9G...may pick up a lightly used one vs a new 560 this summer.
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When I was on the MB Factory Tour of the S Class plant last month in Sindelfingen I saw a gorgeous S63 Convertible come off the line and get driven to another area for us to look at inside the plant. It was silver with a red interior and just scrumptious. I thought... whoa, NICE! I kind of remember them saying that they wouldn't be making them anymore soon but I could be wrong. The tour and entire experience was beyond fascinating.



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