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RJC 01-01-2019 10:36 PM

End of the line?
 
From what I've been told the 2019MY will be the last for the S coupes and cabs, too bad. Anyone heard anything to the contrary? I'd magine this won't be very good for resale vaues.

Cross posting on w222 forum due to lthe very ow activity on the 217 forum.

superangrypenguin 01-01-2019 11:00 PM

I already posted this in the 222 forum. Yes, it's the end of the line of the coupes/cabs.

RJC 01-01-2019 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by superangrypenguin (Post 7643436)
I already posted this in the 222 forum. Yes, it's the end of the line of the coupes/cabs.

Was hoping it wasn't true...I would imagine there should be some king sized discounts on what's left coming in the near future?

Vallie123 01-02-2019 06:06 AM

That is worldwide, I assume? I didn’t know sales were that weak on those models.


Originally Posted by RJC (Post 7643411)
From what I've been told the 2019MY will be the last for the S coupes and cabs, too bad. Anyone heard anything to the contrary? I'd magine this won't be very good for resale vaues.

Cross posting on w222 forum due to lthe very ow activity on the 217 forum.


RJC 01-02-2019 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Vallie123 (Post 7643547)
That is worldwide, I assume? I didn’t know sales were that weak on those models.





Apparently so, very limited audience and very expensive to produce. I am looking into another one, either a leftover 18, or a 19, but will wait for the large discounts which usually occur when a vehicle goes out of production, unless it's an aircooled 911 or certain F cars etc... :)

C280 Sport 01-02-2019 03:39 PM

Lots of changes with MB. Convertibles, Coupes and SLK/SLC and SL are to be gone in the next couple of years. Basically people want SUV's or if they are spending that kind of money on a car they want a Porsche, Z06, GTR, Lamborghini or Ferrari and buy the sedan or SUV it seems to be.

RJC 01-02-2019 03:57 PM

No SL...wow.

Wolfman 01-02-2019 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by C280 Sport (Post 7643936)
Lots of changes with MB. Convertibles, Coupes and SLK/SLC and SL are to be gone in the next couple of years. Basically people want SUV's or if they are spending that kind of money on a car they want a Porsche, Z06, GTR, Lamborghini or Ferrari and buy the sedan or SUV it seems to be.

There are lots of changes coming tp be sure. Some planned planned ones and I am sure some surprises due to a new CEO and electrification.

The SL will not go away btw. The S-Class Coupe was planned to go away for MY21. Of course it could be sooner but I think that's unlikely given that the cost for the face-lift re-tooling has already occurred.
The new R232 SL will actually be the new S-Class cab moving forward (model merge)

RJC 01-02-2019 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7643952)
There are lots of changes coming tp be sure. Some planned planned ones and I am sure some surprises due to a new CEO and electrification.

The SL will not go away btw. The C-Class Coupe was planned to go away for MY21. Of course it could be sooner but I think that's unlikely given that the cost for the face-lift re-tooling has already occurred.
The new R232 SL will be the S-Class cab moving forward...

Then it's going 2+2 I'd assume?

Germancar1 01-02-2019 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by C280 Sport (Post 7643936)
Lots of changes with MB. Convertibles, Coupes and SLK/SLC and SL are to be gone in the next couple of years. Basically people want SUV's or if they are spending that kind of money on a car they want a Porsche, Z06, GTR, Lamborghini or Ferrari and buy the sedan or SUV it seems to be.

The SLC and the S/Coupe cabrio are going away, the rest are staying so all of them are NOT going. The SL is being redesigned, as are the C Coupe and Convertible, ditto for the E Coupe and Cabrio. The E Coupe/Cabrio models made up 25% of the E_Class sales in the U.S. so they clearly aren't going anywhere.

M

MBZFAN55 01-02-2019 06:26 PM

Buckle Your Seatbelt
 
Quite obviously the entire automotive industry is shifting away from traditional passenger cars to SUV's and pickups. Ford alone will soon be down to only 2 passenger car models. It's ALL about sales & profits so when segment demand wanes, manufacturers look for the more profitable venues. If Millennials wake up one morning and decide they all want 8 passenger electric powered Checker cabs, trust me, they will soon be produced. There is no doubt the auto industry is going through a huge systemic change with alternative fuels, self-driving vehicles and the dissolution of America's love affair with the automobile. The S-Class coupe has always only been a small fraction of S-Class sedan sales, and now that every coupe in the Mercedes lineup looks indistinguishable from each other, it was inevitable that further models will be cut. The limited market SL will continue as long as the SL buyers still enjoy wheeling to the country club. Then again, country clubs don't seem to too popular anymore, either. More change is coming, so buckle your seatbelt, while you still have one.

Wolfman 01-02-2019 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by RJC (Post 7643981)
Then it's going 2+2 I'd assume?

That's the word but I hope not. Loosing the hardtop is bad enough but a 2+2 makes for an inferior top down experience...

RJC 01-02-2019 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7644153)
That's the word but I hope not. Loosing the hardtop is bad enough but a 2+2 makes for an inferior top down experience...

+1
They have seen how well Maseratti has done with large 2+2 convertibles, even the F-type Jag's are going this route. I quite franlkly find large full four seat verts unappealing to the eye.

C280 Sport 01-03-2019 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by RJC (Post 7643948)
No SL...wow.

SL will be a ragtop now. But I doubt that will actually last long and will be cut soon too. Not many sales of the SL :(


RJC 01-03-2019 12:23 PM

I think it's failing because it's still a bit fugly despite the previous refresh and people seem to want true full size 2+2 verts these days.

If MB wants a hit they should do a true retro version of one former model, not a mish mosh.

Germancar1 01-03-2019 04:17 PM

It's the design and the fact that market has contracted, but the next SL will be a 2+2 and replace the S Coupe/Cabrio in one swoop. Still though it will never sell like it did years ago. The market just isn't there for most convertibles.

M

RJC 01-03-2019 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Germancar1 (Post 7644922)
It's the design and the fact that market has contracted, but the next SL will be a 2+2 and replace the S Coupe/Cabrio in one swoop. Still though it will never sell like it did years ago. The market just isn't there for most convertibles.

M

How can they expect it to replace the S coupe when they're going to a soft top?

Germancar1 01-03-2019 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by RJC (Post 7644959)
How can they expect it to replace the S coupe when they're going to a soft top?

Not sure, but either way all indications are that the coupe is gone and the next SL is replacing it. I'm excited to see what they come up with.

M

RJC 01-03-2019 06:51 PM

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=w2qRTr6Y

Germancar1 01-03-2019 10:49 PM

Clearly that is a piss poor render based on the new Aston Martin Vantage. Not sure what the point of posting it is.

M

RJC 01-03-2019 10:54 PM

.....

RJC 01-03-2019 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by Germancar1 (Post 7645264)
Clearly that is a piss poor render based on the new Aston Martin Vantage. Not sure what the point of posting it is.

M

Because it appears to look like almost all of the renderings for the new SL when searching and it's from Autobild...that's why. :rolleyes:

Germancar1 01-03-2019 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by RJC (Post 7645269)
Because it appears to look like almost all of the renderings for the new SL when searching and it's from Autobild...that's why. :rolleyes:

It's a garbage render man.

M

RJC 01-03-2019 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by Germancar1 (Post 7645283)
It's a garbage render man.

M

Says you...

Germancar1 01-03-2019 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by RJC (Post 7645286)
Says you...

Yep because it's clearly an Aston Martin, you guys believe anything here lol. Autobild renders went to dogs years ago.

M


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