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BMW 7 Series refresh......You gotta see this!

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Old 01-18-2019, 09:17 AM
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The only car on the planet that has an uglier grill (for this price point/category) is the 2020 Genesis G90.

WTF were these designers thinking? Were they DRUNK?!

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Agreed! And their sales are not doing well due to dealer network issues. Genesis however is a very well made car.

I also think the grille on the refreshed W221 was MB's best looking grille. The W222 grille to me is a tad too large and it doesn't have that lower pointed shape to it that I liked on the previous E class (2011 model for example) and the W221 after the refresh.

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Originally Posted by MBS63AMG
Agreed! And their sales are not doing well due to dealer network issues. Genesis however is a very well made car.

I also think the grille on the refreshed W221 was MB's best looking grille. The W222 grille to me is a tad too large and it doesn't have that lower pointed shape to it that I liked on the previous E class (2011 model for example) and the W221 after the refresh.
They did well early last year in JD Power but the latest (10/18) CR report show the G90 is having issues..https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...bility-survey/

I was surprised to see this:
Genesis G90:
The G90 had below-average reliability. Reported problems were transmission gasket leaks, failed throttle body, and warped rotors. A Genesis spokesman said that the automaker had seen very few claims from customers about the throttle body and transmission-leak problems, but it had seen more than 200 claims for problems involving the brake rotors.
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Must be the EV version? Nice find man haha!
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At first, I didn't like the new grille on the 7 series either, but the more I look at it the more I like it. It gives the car a strong, masculine presence on the road, especially with the M-sport package. In my opinion, it makes the all-new Audi A8 already look dated and weak. I would definitely consider getting the updated 7. The one thing I don't like is how the entire grille is one piece. Instead of making the kidney grilles separate pieces they are connected with that chrome piece in the middle. It looks like a cost-cutting move and I don't like that.


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Originally Posted by jumpman726
At first, I didn't like the new grille on the 7 series either, but the more I look at it the more I like it. It gives the car a strong, masculine presence on the road, especially with the M-sport package. In my opinion, it makes the all-new Audi A8 already look dated and weak. I would definitely consider getting the updated 7. The one thing I don't like is how the entire grille is one piece. Instead of making the kidney grilles separate pieces they are connected with that chrome piece in the middle. It looks like a cost-cutting move and I don't like that.

From higher up at this angle, it's better...but not much. Gota see this thing in the flesh.
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I don't like it at all . Why would anyone design a car this continental sized massive grill ? It just looks plainly ugly . Headlamps looks dwarfed by the size of this enormous grill .I must say BMW badly botched up this flagship sedan .
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Originally Posted by jumpman726
At first, I didn't like the new grille on the 7 series either, but the more I look at it the more I like it. It gives the car a strong, masculine presence on the road, especially with the M-sport package. In my opinion, it makes the all-new Audi A8 already look dated and weak. I would definitely consider getting the updated 7. The one thing I don't like is how the entire grille is one piece. Instead of making the kidney grilles separate pieces they are connected with that chrome piece in the middle. It looks like a cost-cutting move and I don't like that.

I like it too. The little camera in the middle may have something to do with why they merged the left and the right halves. Dunno! Also, is it because the headlights are so slim that the grille looks so large??? Should the lights have been made larger vertically?
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From higher up at this angle, it's better...but not much. Gota see this thing in the flesh.
I like the lines of the hood.
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I like the lines of the hood.
Now that you mention it, so do I.
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I'm indeed sorry to see BMW going to the new grotesque oversized grills - a design style that seems popular in the far east. Since that is where sales are growing I'm guessing BMW is trying to please the market. Sad to see they don't have the confidence in their product's superior engineering and now resort to a "me too" style face. Of course style is subjective, but, I for one, think the 7 series refresh is a retrograde step and find it unattractive enough not to consider it when next I shop for a luxury sedan.

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