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badbenzz 01-20-2019 02:26 AM

New Shoes
 
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f78fc08d3c.jpg21" HRE FF04 with 295/30/21 & 255/35/21 Michelin S4 tires.

Venom-AMG 01-20-2019 03:34 AM

Nice I have the same wheels
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...94437bc3d1.jpg

1bad540 01-20-2019 09:19 AM

Not a bad looking wheel, and when I saw them in 21" I also considered them. My opinion they dont do anything for the car tho. Are the rears barely concave?

badbenzz 01-20-2019 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by 1bad540 (Post 7659024)
Not a bad looking wheel, and when I saw them in 21" I also considered them. My opinion they dont do anything for the car tho. Are the rears barely concave?

was expecting super concave BUT got no concave

1bad540 01-20-2019 12:52 PM

Yea thats a kick in the balls, for the price they had those on sale a few weeks ago I almost pulled the trigger. the tires kinda made me hesitate since only the michs are avail and cost more than the wheels. I would have been upset at that concaveness to be honest. The hre pics looked super concave.

Venom-AMG 01-20-2019 01:48 PM

If you wanted concave these aren't what you are looking for. Doubt you would get much concave with the needed offset of 35/45 for the w222. I wanted no concave to make the wheels look bigger on the car. Concave and dip dish wheels looks smaller then their actual size. Kinda regret not getting 22", lot more tire options.

Venom-AMG 01-20-2019 03:23 PM

A day picture. I think these are some of the best looking wheels for this car

badbenzz 01-20-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Venom-AMG (Post 7659273)
A day picture. I think these are some of the best looking wheels for this car

Actually they look so much better in person

Venom-AMG 01-21-2019 03:01 AM

Didnt upload for some reason
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0f6cb784e9.jpg

hyperion667 01-21-2019 08:55 AM

Looks nice. I know nothing about the FF wheels aside from te fact that they're cast and not forged......might have something to do with the offsets or the rear concavity you're looking for?
And plus, how did you get them SO fast?! Was it proximity or a different factor?

Car looks great!

badbenzz 01-21-2019 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by hyperion667 (Post 7659711)
Looks nice. I know nothing about the FF wheels aside from te fact that they're cast and not forged......might have something to do with the offsets or the rear concavity you're looking for?
And plus, how did you get them SO fast?! Was it proximity or a different factor?

Car looks great!

HRE had them in stock and I went to Los Angeles to get them. Was not about to spend 10K on forged been there done dat.

HRE_Jurrian 01-21-2019 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by badbenzz (Post 7658929)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f78fc08d3c.jpg21" HRE FF04 with 295/30/21 & 255/35/21 Michelin S4 tires.


Originally Posted by Venom-AMG (Post 7658947)

Looking good guys! Appreciate your support!

Venom-AMG 01-21-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by hyperion667 (Post 7659711)
Looks nice. I know nothing about the FF wheels aside from te fact that they're cast and not forged......might have something to do with the offsets or the rear concavity you're looking for?
And plus, how did you get them SO fast?! Was it proximity or a different factor?

Car looks great!

these are just rotary forged. Weight was 25.8lb fronts and 26.6lb rears. Same as forgestar but not as good as the 3pc forged.

thewb 01-21-2019 03:56 PM

Congratulations to those in here with the FF04's on their cars. For sub $800 per wheel you are able to get your foot into the HRE brand & their 40+ years of prestige & and premium build quality. I look forward to helping more on the forums gets these on their W222's.

Wolfman 01-21-2019 05:44 PM

Congrats! Both cars look great but need a little height adjustment, specially your Venom. Is yours raided on the pics?

Personally I like 21" best for these cars. 22" is too large but has a great tire selection. Same as 20".

badbenzz 01-21-2019 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by HRE_Jurrian (Post 7659874)
Looking good guys! Appreciate your support!

Jurrian, why don't these wheels have any concaveness, I take it the offset doesn't allow? I saw them on your website on a BMW and it was super concave.

badbenzz 01-21-2019 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Venom-AMG (Post 7659948)
these are just rotary forged. Weight was 25.8lb fronts and 26.6lb rears. Same as forgestar but not as good as the 3pc forged.

Actually HRE said in a 21" they are 28.6 lbs front and 31.2 lbs rears, which is still a lot lighter than stock 20"

HRE_Jurrian 01-21-2019 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by badbenzz (Post 7660223)
Jurrian, why don't these wheels have any concaveness, I take it the offset doesn't allow? I saw them on your website on a BMW and it was super concave.

Apples and Oranges, as the Mercs typically don't have lower offsets which is what you'd want for a deep conical profile. Also considering these 21" wheels are made for the S-Class a WHOLE, we have to take into consideration the massive brakes on the S63AMG so we have to ensure we clear those brakes, not just the standard brakes off the base model S-Class.

Traditionally though, BMW's have much lower offsets, and wider fenders than Mercedes does, and that isn't for every BMW model of course, but most of the M-class cars versus the AMG cars will bode better for conical profiles and lip sizes.

Main reasons are going to be how much room we've got in the fender to start, plus how big the brake is and the typical offset needed on the vehicle and lastly the suspension geometry so there's quite a few factors which play into this.

Venom-AMG 01-21-2019 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by badbenzz (Post 7660270)
Actually HRE said in a 21" they are 28.6 lbs front and 31.2 lbs rears, which is still a lot lighter than stock 20"

I think you are right, I might mixed up the weight with the my other set of HRE 790R 20"

Venom-AMG 01-21-2019 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7660213)
Congrats! Both cars look great but need a little height adjustment, specially your Venom. Is yours raided on the pics?

Personally I like 21" best for these cars. 22" is too large but has a great tire selection. Same as 20".

Yea comfort mode, going to get lowering links for 1" drop just to close gap soon.

badbenzz 01-25-2019 01:58 AM


Originally Posted by Venom-AMG (Post 7660415)
Yea comfort mode, going to get lowering links for 1" drop just to close gap soon.

Have you considered the OBD lowering module on Amazon

Venom-AMG 01-25-2019 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by badbenzz (Post 7663593)
Have you considered the OBD lowering module on Amazon

not compatible with abc/mBC
wish it was

Wolfman 01-25-2019 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Venom-AMG (Post 7663619)
not compatible with abc/mBC
wish it was

Just get the Renntech OBD module. Works fine on MBC. A bit pricier but will do the job...

Venom-AMG 01-25-2019 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7664219)


Just get the Renntech OBD module. Works fine on MBC. A bit pricier but will do the job...

I have reached out to them and still waiting for a reply. They also dont list an application for the MBC on their website. Read up lowering links and it doesnt seem too hard to install, might try if renntech doesnt have anything.

badbenzz 01-26-2019 12:28 AM

I reached out to the OBD lowering module guys on Amazon with my VIN and was told it would work on my car which means I don't have ABC or MBC on my car.


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