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Old 01-24-2019, 10:01 AM
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Replacing rear brake pads 16 Maybach

Hi all.This morning I am changing the rear brake pads on the car. I am at about 60000 miles and interestingly the rear pads are ready to change but the fronts still have a lot of wear before change.

I can say the rotors give you a 24MM minimum thickness and I was at 26MM so I turned them and they will be good for one more set of brake pads.

The process is about the same as any other car and thanks to the MERCEDES WIS directions I simply followed the directions.

Here are some pictures. You might notice that the calibers and pad holders have an AMG stamp on them. Go figure.

Often I read people say owning one of these cars is expensive to service. I tend to think everything these days is expensive but I can say one thing. If you are willing to do the work your self you can say a LOT of money.

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Well I got the pads from Advance auto with 25% off their platinum professional pads. Price was about 55 dollars. I thought about taking the rotors up to get surfaced but i ended up using an electric hand sander to scuff the rotors really good. So with that said the cost was 55 dollars. I suspect the dealer would have been at least 200 dollars............

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I havent done my pads yet on the w222, But ive heard the rears need to go in service mode to retract the caliper pins as to not damage the caliper. did you do any of that?
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Yes that was part of the directions. Service mode is accessed from either scan tool or the steering wheel as if your going to access the maintenance menues. I did take and stuff a car cover into the footwell so as not to push the brake pedal since the directions said dont do that when pads are in the change position. Also dont take the computer out of change position till after the brakes are finished. Otherwise the last step to perform.
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You sir, must be a member of a VERY exclusive club. If it was possible to know, Id love to see the number of Maybach owners who change their own pads, let alone turn the rotors. You may be the ONLY member of the club! Iím very impressed, truly.
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It’s actually Mam. My husband is sir. Smiles. This girl has no issues turning a wrench. If jay leno owns an s class I would say he might change brakes.

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I changed my rears last week. Found the service mode on youtube. Pretty cool. The rest was a walk in the park. Very easy. I bought the MB pads at 107 dollars and also scuffed the rotors which were in very good shape. The MB pads are so abrasive they burnished right in quickly. I think you saved a a lot more than 200 dollars at the dealer. I could not imagine not working on my own car. So far I have done pretty much a 30K service from oil, to differential, brakes, and all filters. I find Mercedes to be easy to work on for the most part.


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The most time consuming was the trans fluid and filter change. I had to index the crank for an hour by hand looking for a converter plug that apparently my car does not have......... But with that said I have also not changed the plugs. I took out one at 50000 miles and it looked like new and I simply wrote in the log that do it at a later date and mileage.....The car has 24 of them and the cheapest price was 14 a piece so when a plug looks like new I cant see replacing them.

Oh I did the brake fluid flush a while back. That was pretty easy if you have the vacuum pump.
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Itís actually Mam. My husband is sir. Smiles. This girl has no issues turning a wrench. If jay leno owns an s class I would say he might change brakes.
My apologies, Mam. Now Iím REALLY impressed! Good for you!
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The most time consuming was the trans fluid and filter change. I had to index the crank for an hour by hand looking for a converter plug that apparently my car does not have......... But with that said I have also not changed the plugs. I took out one at 50000 miles and it looked like new and I simply wrote in the log that do it at a later date and mileage.....The car has 24 of them and the cheapest price was 14 a piece so when a plug looks like new I cant see replacing them.

Oh I did the brake fluid flush a while back. That was pretty easy if you have the vacuum pump.
I have been researching the trans fill for this car, haven't found much. My W221 had the converter plug and that fill went well, but I haven't seen one on this W222 ? Did the brake fluid flush yesterday, I use the Motive power bleeder. Pumped it up with Dot 4 Petrosin and was able to bleed all 4 in 40 minutes without taking the wheels off. 24 plugs?! Sounds like a long job, theres bound to be a couple that are a PITA. Good luck!
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I am so totally impressed right now I am completely at a loss for words.

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Semis the directions for trans fluid change are in Mercedes wis. I have a 2016 or 17 version (time to update) so that’s perhaps why I was mislead to drain the converter. Regardless I did the remove pan and replace filter. It ended up being about half the fluid quantity. I did have to have the scan tool tool to get temp readings for fill level.

yes the 12 cylinder has lots of spark plugs. Interestingly the s560 v8 feels pretty much the same power wise and smooth as well.

streamliner it’s all good if you don’t do work on the cars I just don’t mind doing it.
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I changed my rears last week. Found the service mode on youtube. Pretty cool. The rest was a walk in the park. Very easy. I bought the MB pads at 107 dollars and also scuffed the rotors which were in very good shape. The MB pads are so abrasive they burnished right in quickly. I think you saved a a lot more than 200 dollars at the dealer. I could not imagine not working on my own car. So far I have done pretty much a 30K service from oil, to differential, brakes, and all filters. I find Mercedes to be easy to work on for the most part.

You care to share the process for the Diff... Thanks!
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It couldn't be easier. No special drain plug or fill plug. They are a pipe type thread, no need for crush washers or O-rings (like my BMW!!). I first loosen the fill plug (just in case there is an issue with it), then drain. Use only MB spec which for the regular S550 is 235.7 and 235.74. There are only a couple that meet the spec. Titan was my choice and actually recommended by the Mobil tech line who told me they did not meet the spec. ( Kudos to Mobil). I add little new fluid with the drain open to flush any crap lingering on the bottom. Yes, it was sparkling with fine metal so very happy with changing out at 28K. Tighten the drain. I just give a good snug as it's all metal case and plug. I am sure there is a torque spec. Buy the hand pump that fits the bottle and fill till it overflows the fill. I put the bottle is the sun so it flows easily. Should be at the bottom of the fill hole. Install fill plug and pat your self on the back for saving some bucks and knowing it was done correctly. The AMG models have a different differential and fluid and service interval, this is for the "regular" S550. MB fluid was 68 dollars a liter! Fuchs was 16.50. I bought 3 liters but it really just made it with 2. Good luck
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Thanks Brother! Just built it, 4200 sq ft.! My retirement playground! I have the GTO since I am 18 yrs old. Converted it to an LS1, 4L60E, 12 Bolt rear. Where are you in NY? I moved from Staten Island to palm beach.
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I hear ya! I started out with Chevy's and Pontiacs, then Corvettes also. Still have my corvette. I was once intimidated by the German cars years ago. But loving the quality and engineering I jumped in on easier things. I do most things after some research, but I am not doing a timing chain either!! Most things are very reasonable on the Mercedes till you get heavy into the motor. My opinion is Mercedes makes a car to be maintained and worked on BMW makes a car they feel will not fail or need to be worked on as it is a PITA! I plan on keeping this one but I also enjoy maintenance. But I am set up for it which makes things easier for my aging body! LOL If I were handing the keys in in 3 years, I wouldn't be maintaining their car either ! Be well
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It couldn't be easier. No special drain plug or fill plug. They are a pipe type thread, no need for crush washers or O-rings (like my BMW!!). I first loosen the fill plug (just in case there is an issue with it), then drain. Use only MB spec which for the regular S550 is 235.7 and 235.74. There are only a couple that meet the spec. Titan was my choice and actually recommended by the Mobil tech line who told me they did not meet the spec. ( Kudos to Mobil). I add little new fluid with the drain open to flush any crap lingering on the bottom. Yes, it was sparkling with fine metal so very happy with changing out at 28K. Tighten the drain. I just give a good snug as it's all metal case and plug. I am sure there is a torque spec. Buy the hand pump that fits the bottle and fill till it overflows the fill. I put the bottle is the sun so it flows easily. Should be at the bottom of the fill hole. Install fill plug and pat your self on the back for saving some bucks and knowing it was done correctly. The AMG models have a different differential and fluid and service interval, this is for the "regular" S550. MB fluid was 68 dollars a liter! Fuchs was 16.50. I bought 3 liters but it really just made it with 2. Good luck
Interesting, my dealer said no service required.... I really appreciate the info. Do you have any photos of the Bolts / location. Thank You again for the information. I found out the Xfer case is part of the Transmission, when its serviced, so is the transferase fluid.

Is this the same rear? Found these 2 videos. Also, what do you think about magnetic drain plugs....

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No not exactly. The first video does show the same placement of the fill and drain plug for reference. My 2016 W222 has a different type of plug similar to your first photo. Its reusable. I use magnetic plug in most of my cars, but only if they are affixed as in glued/epoxied in place. I just looked at the MB service sheet recommendations in my file and it doesn't show under the 30K service? I believe I saw it in the maintenance book with the owners manual. I can't check it right now because my car is at the shop getting the paint protection film. Check the manual. My car has 28K and from what came out, I am happy it's out! LOL Its easy and cheap insurance if yours is a keeper.
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No not exactly. The first video does show the same placement of the fill and drain plug for reference. My 2016 W222 has a different type of plug similar to your first photo. Its reusable. I use magnetic plug in most of my cars, but only if they are affixed as in glued/epoxied in place. I just looked at the MB service sheet recommendations in my file and it doesn't show under the 30K service? I believe I saw it in the maintenance book with the owners manual. I can't check it right now because my car is at the shop getting the paint protection film. Check the manual. My car has 28K and from what came out, I am happy it's out! LOL Its easy and cheap insurance if yours is a keeper.
Is this the OEM for W222 cars... 2014 S550 4 Matic
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bnav_search_go?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=0019893303+Genuine+Mercedes https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bnav_search_go?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=0019893303+Genuine+Mercedes
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https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/13676834-0019893303?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_camp aign=feed_Mercedes&msclkid=d9ecbbf4d41a154c5157e7b f329778c1

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