My masterpiece in development – TT Motorsports S600 V12 Bi-T
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Here's a short clip that FABSPEED put together of the car on the dyno... http://www.vimeo.com/1225317
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Sounds sweet Chris, I hope you take it to the track sometime. We will have another huge track rental on 11/15 to make some record runs in the cooler weather, I hope you and your crew can make it.
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Truthfully...the only reason I run N20 is because I had access to a kit for free that I could "graft" onto my S600. N20 or no N20...I really like them both even though I consider N20 to be slightly artificial in producing quicker e.t.'s. Rflow and a couple other E55's started the trend with N20 and I wanted to see how fast my car would be with it and I suppose we found out....
. I do see N20 as the simplest way to make a car quicker/faster without adding complexity to other systems in the car. And I do support Jason's comments concerning using N20....I only use it because it was waving in front of my face. N20 is more fun to use that I expected and it is quite addicting....I'm not saying this because I'm a dentist either...
. I do see N20 as the simplest way to make a car quicker/faster without adding complexity to other systems in the car. And I do support Jason's comments concerning using N20....I only use it because it was waving in front of my face. N20 is more fun to use that I expected and it is quite addicting....I'm not saying this because I'm a dentist either...
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Here's a short clip that FABSPEED put together of the car on the dyno... http://www.vimeo.com/1225317
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Anyways like I said earlier, this Eisennman is only a temporary exhaust... we are waiting for Meisterschaft to fabricate a one-of exhaust exclusively for this car. I don't know if they are going to jig it or not, but maybe some of you on this forum would be interested in it once you see/hear it? As of right now they are only making one exhaust just for my car.
We are also due back at FABSPEED once we get the Meisterschaft cans for a fully custom exhaust that they are fabricating onsite just for this car, it will be from the downpipes to the new cans... and big pipes too!
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Those must have been state-of-the-art carpet fans setting on state-of-the-art stools and sideways stepladders, then........
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Next we're off to FABSPEED Motorsports in Ambler, PA to see what kind of numbers we're putting down... It was great to meet everyone at Fabspeed and those guys had a beautiful state-of-the-art shop...
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sorry I knew someone was gonna say that I knew it was a matter of time.
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It was the loud dyno. The exhaust is anything but "quite"... I would call it "Classy yet you hear the soul of the V12..."
Anyways like I said earlier, this Eisennman is only a temporary exhaust... we are waiting for Meisterschaft to fabricate a one-of exhaust exclusively for this car. I don't know if they are going to jig it or not, but maybe some of you on this forum would be interested in it once you see/hear it? As of right now they are only making one exhaust just for my car.
We are also due back at FABSPEED once we get the Meisterschaft cans for a fully custom exhaust that they are fabricating onsite just for this car, it will be from the downpipes to the new cans... and big pipes too!
Anyways like I said earlier, this Eisennman is only a temporary exhaust... we are waiting for Meisterschaft to fabricate a one-of exhaust exclusively for this car. I don't know if they are going to jig it or not, but maybe some of you on this forum would be interested in it once you see/hear it? As of right now they are only making one exhaust just for my car.
We are also due back at FABSPEED once we get the Meisterschaft cans for a fully custom exhaust that they are fabricating onsite just for this car, it will be from the downpipes to the new cans... and big pipes too!
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Thank you for the helpful insights that so many of you are offering to help us with this incredible project. The respect shown by these fellow members are a credit to the true enthusiasts ambition to help each other out.
We stared out on this project to make it a true supercar in sedan trim. While Chris's budget for this project is somewhat substantial we are building this with reliability as the #1 factor and, by using expertise from a vast amount of builds that I have done, the power numbers will be quite impressive. The minds that I have corraborated with so far on the S600 project are great people with an intricate knowledge of the ability to make anything wickedly fast.
Once again thank you for your valuable input and it is greatly appreciated.
Now for the HATERS:
Get a fu%^ing life. Jealousy is the best form of flattery so thanks to all of the hating a$$holes that have added nothing but jealousy to this thread. The world is a small place and if you don't realize that by now YOU WILL!!!
We stared out on this project to make it a true supercar in sedan trim. While Chris's budget for this project is somewhat substantial we are building this with reliability as the #1 factor and, by using expertise from a vast amount of builds that I have done, the power numbers will be quite impressive. The minds that I have corraborated with so far on the S600 project are great people with an intricate knowledge of the ability to make anything wickedly fast.
Once again thank you for your valuable input and it is greatly appreciated.
Now for the HATERS:
Get a fu%^ing life. Jealousy is the best form of flattery so thanks to all of the hating a$$holes that have added nothing but jealousy to this thread. The world is a small place and if you don't realize that by now YOU WILL!!!
.....more pics!
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500hp/582tq. I think the car will do much better. Temperature outside was hot, and the car was hot. RENNtech also said they could turn up the boost some more if I wanted them to. But I'm good for now. I really don't think the tranny will take it.
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Just keep it on street tires.
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I can assure I have no "problem" not running nitrous.
your statement :
As you said yourself that you have learned that you dont need a tune or tcu to go quicker than 10.58 in a 600 based platform. This indicates that you have first hand knowledge of a car or your own car going faster with just exhaust, fuel an NOS.
I am here to help Chris, as well as I was here to help you with your car when you produced low TQ numbers. But info like the above is not going to help him unless its proven.
your statement :
As you said yourself that you have learned that you dont need a tune or tcu to go quicker than 10.58 in a 600 based platform. This indicates that you have first hand knowledge of a car or your own car going faster with just exhaust, fuel an NOS.
I am here to help Chris, as well as I was here to help you with your car when you produced low TQ numbers. But info like the above is not going to help him unless its proven.
Steph, you need to run more nitrous in your car
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I'll have it looked at one of these days.
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And I really don't think my tranny will take it. My tranny already has problems. If I try to take off from a dead stop, of course the tires will spin unmercifully, and when she tries to shift to second, BAM, No Second. She goes to neutral, and will not go back in gear until I turn the ignition off and restart the car. It's messed up!!! All my fun has been from rolling starts!
I'll have it looked at one of these days.
I'll have it looked at one of these days.
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I have a one off tune from AMG. (long story and cannot be replicated) Last dyno was 555rwhp
This happens from time to time with these cars and has happened multiple times with me. What you are doing is hitting the cars TQ limits, then its failsafe is to disengage the tranny. See if RENNtech can up your TQ limits, but there is nothing physically wrong with your tranny.
This happens from time to time with these cars and has happened multiple times with me. What you are doing is hitting the cars TQ limits, then its failsafe is to disengage the tranny. See if RENNtech can up your TQ limits, but there is nothing physically wrong with your tranny.
Thanks for the advice. I'll see if they can up the TQ limits.
That was nice of AMG to do a tune for you. Can't you have someone copy your ecm? That's a lot of power!!
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I can have someone copy it, but i dont like too much competition 
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actually there is no argument.
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Not the easiest car to modulate with N20 either.....you must be very careful on launch and during the shifts.....that's all I will say....the torque limits are still there with the Renntech tuning and I have no idea how high they are set.
