westcoast5

since there has been talk about ET times around here, What does a s430, s500 run in the 1/4?

LAWYER2

I don't know but my 430 seems awful slow, always wondered if the 500 faired much better

my06clk

Compared to what? THe facelift model have a little more pep to them, but I terms of a big car I still wouldn't call it slow by any definition. May people have driven my car and can't believe how quick it is and how well it handles given its size. Sitting low on 20s' makes a difference also.

Again, its no race car, and its not intended to be.. but I stay ahead of the pack when I'm on the road and still keep heads focused so that's about all I really care about.

Here's a funny story I tried to tell before but some hater threw shade on it;

I was driving a street in Miami and some teenager in one of those mustangs that looked like it was from the movie 'I am Legend" kept goosing his car every light trying to get me to race him.. we did this for about 5 lights till we came to a cross street. I told my passenger " this kid is sooo getting on my nerves".

So while the light was red he was sitting there racing his noisy engine, I placed my shifter in 1 and waited for the light to turn.

When the light turned green, I punched my car as we both made a left at the intersection and so did he. Unfortunately he didnt have traction control like I did and his rear end broke loose on the turn LOL, I was about 5 cars ahead of him when he got straight. I just laughed... he made a right somewhere behind me. My passenger said "wow this thing corners nice!"

I know if it was a real driver he would have killed me on the short straight but I also knew how well my big S handles those quick jump and turn situations so I took full advantage.

If your car seems too 'slow' , leave it in S mode, and drive aggressively for a while. It will adapt to your heavy foot and start shifting more aggressively.

You can also put it in manual mode and let it force shift. This will switch the program to the highest rpm before it shifts. Then place the ****er back to D-S. That's a great advantage the 7 speed has over the older versions IMO. More gears and different ratios mean you can play a little better on the bottom. The top is already nice.

This is really noticeably cool on the lighter cars such ans the CLK..

If you are in C, well just forget about it.. You need that 1'st gear to make anything happen with these cars.

m4xm1l10n

I don't know the numbers but i went head to head with my cousin which has and identical car as mine S500 , but an S430 . we went from DEAD STOP and also from 60 MPH ALL THE WAY TO 120 MPH . Results !!!! I spanked him even uglier form 60 mph on. from dead stop all the way to 60-80 i was ahead by a LOT .

OceanPkwy

I'd say on a healthy s500 97-100, if not 101 trap speed.

THR2008

If you're talking stock with no mods then the S430 gets it on 0-60 its engine is lighter. On the 1/4 mile I'd go with the 500. now when we add rims (3 piece/Chrome/Racing) there is no exact data as they would vary a whole helluva lot. Just my 2 cents with a 1 cent refund.

m4xm1l10n

HAVE YOU CHECK S430 STOCK 0-60 STATS ? THERE IS A FULL SECOND OR MORE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM , BESIDES THE ENGINE WEIGHT REALLY NOT A FACTOR AT ALL. THEY BOTH THE SAME CAR, ONE HAS MORE POWER THAT'S ALL !!!!

OceanPkwy

m4xm1l10n

I KNOW MAN LOL

LAWYER2

I know it's not a race car, but you damn near have to redline it to get any real acceleration. Just didn't know this was the norm, since I've never really had any cars that such high RPM's were necessary to get a quick jump from. It's almost like the acceleration is delayed, until the kick-down happens

THR2008

all jokes aside who here is able to do 0-60 from a redlight without getting a ticket. Dealer data is just that data. If the 500 is faster back when they were redone in 00 would you have paid 10-15k more because they said it was faster??? Of course not. These cars are made for cruising not racing the car weighs in at what 4100lbs +. I have a 500 so I really could care less about the speed.

whoover

These cars have the potential to do both. An S500 has 302 HP. An S65 has 604. I've always wondered if that was a coincidence. But with a beefed up engine, suspension, brakes, transmission, tires and rear end these cars are rather insane.

OceanPkwy

My car flies at every RPM interval range.

I got a solution for you: Sneaky ECU Reset.

Go search it on the W211 Boards, they swear by it.

OceanPkwy

Wrong, The S500 has alot of features over the 430 including the 25 hp and 45 Torque difference.

m4xm1l10n

this thread was about this. #'s on S430 AND S500 .

S500 IS FASTER SMOOTHER AND BETTER EQUIPPED CAR . A STEP UP FROM S430 WHY BOTHER GO ANY FURTHER WITH THIS . HAVE YOU GUYS AVER NOTICE HOW HARD AND LOUD THE S430 REVS TO GET WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO? THAT SIMPLY WON'T HAPPEN ON THE S500

THR2008

You obviously don't like the S430 do you? Like any car they can be mirrored with options except for the engines. Nuff Said

Back to the purpose of my reply...

The numbers are as follows pulled straight from MotorTrend.com:

"The major difference between these models is their powerplants: SOHC three-valves/cylinder V-8s both, but displacing 4.3L in the S430 and 5.0L in the S500 (hence their model nomenclatures). Output is 275 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque for the 4.3 version, with the 5.0 churning out 302 hp and 339 lb-ft. Because both engines deliver wide torque bands, their seat-of-the-pants acceleration feel is quite similar; it's only when you connect the timing equipment that the difference (0-60 mph in 7.2 for the S430; 6.5 for S500) seems that dramatic. Added bonus: The S500's buyer pays a $1000 gas-guzzler tax, while the S430's does not."

"Don't be a groupie keep it moving"

OceanPkwy

Dont really care which car you have s430 s350 w.e , just stating the facts and differences between the cars.

All I said was there is a reason for the price variation.

m4xm1l10n

ANYWAYS THE #'S ARE WRONG . MORE LIKE 7.2 S430 AND 6.1 S500. BUT I KNOW FOR SURE S500'S DO BRAKE THE 6'S MORE LIKE 5.7 -5.8 ALSO S430 IS AS GOOD CAR AS AN S500 , BUT PERFORMANCE DIFFERENCES ARE BIG TIME NOTICEABLE . I HAD THEM BOTH

S-Clusiv

What exactly is an S600 clone???

westcoast5

ok well no one has really answered my question yet, Im asking 1/4 mile times? is there a site that has posted this? Since other points have been brought up will or can a ECU tune on a 430 provide similar #'s to a stock 500?

OceanPkwy

He has a V12 badge on the side and S600 on the trunk

OceanPkwy

According to MotorTrend

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._overview.html

my06clk

There is something waaay wrong with your car or something is waaay right with mine.. I don;t know.
There should never be any type of delay in accel. Are you sure you are using S and not C mode? people don't undersand that in 'C' mode you are not using first gear at all.. In this situation I can understand what you are saying.. Plus its a lot harder to adapt in C since there is such a long span for accel time.

newton22

Both cars are very slow. These are luxury boats. The S430 will run around a 15.3 second quarter mile and the S500 about a 14.5 or so quarter mile.

Then again, slow is subjective. My other car is a 13 second car and I think it's slow. I have ridden in a Porsche 996 911 Turbo with some 450 hp, and I thought it was slow. I'm crazy.

THR2008

Funny how information is different no matter where you look online. If you believe the S430 is faster good if you think the S500 is faster great it all boils down to the way you drive your car. I cruise in mine and get up and go when I need to. Speed and quickness is in the owner. Since m4xm1l10n would rather say I'm wrong than to say the site is wrong I mean it was motortrend.com I don't make up info to look like a smart a$$ online. I'm here to read the posts and reply as I see fit. I could be like someone on another forum who doesn't even have an S Class.

Newton is right these things are boats more like Yachts. You don't speed around in a yacht you do it in a gofast.