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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 11:08 PM
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Hello... This is my secod post, help very much appreciated!

I have no error messages.. however I get warm air (light warm) even if I set the Climate Control to 56 degree...

I only get cold air if I turn the Climate Control to LOW...

My Questions:-

1. Am I getting the cold air (Climate Control to LOW) from outside because it is Winter ?

2. Possible problem with AC ?

3. Some other sensor ?

Thank You - Very Much !
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 01:13 PM
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When you do a second post please go into your original post and post a reply from there. If I had not read your original I would not have known what you were talking about.

I am not sure if this will help but there is a thermister in the overhead console with a fan blowing air across it to sense the cabin temperature. On mine my system ran either full cool or full heat. I had them put the Star diagnostics on it and was told that the sensor was telling the system that it was 32 deg in the cabin. Thus LOW would be full air and anything over that would be full heat. I checked out the thermister in the overhead console and found out that it had a broken lead from someone messing around with it. I soldered the lead back together and everything has been working ever sence.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by XEONZ
I get warm air (light warm) even if I set the Climate Control to 56 degree...
Just to clarify... the temperatures I mentioned are in Fahrenheit..
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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More info would be helpful..With car running and the A/C running (light on ec botton should be off. Press and hold down the rest button. After about 8-10 seconds a display of the sensor values will display. Write down the values given numbers 1-12 and also let us know the ambient air temp at the time you did this test. With these numbers we can better help diagnose a problem for you... Could be as simple as adding some refrigerant..

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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_S500
light on ec botton should be off. Press and hold down the rest and cabin filter. buttons at the same time.
Thank You Jeff.. I didn't know where to find the EC Button.. But I guess Google images helped me... can you please confirm if my assumptions are correct (see attached image) ?
Also by "ambient air temp" - Did you mean the set auto temperature on display or outside temperature ?
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Yes, button 3 is the ec button I reffered to.. The temp displayed on the cluster (outside air temp)..
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Please re-read post #4 in this string. Iorigionaly posted instructions for system reset not for the sensor readings. It is correct now... Sorry anout that.. use the driver side temp controll to scroll through the readings..
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_S500
use the driver side temp controll to scroll through the readings..
I tried.. some of the number keep changing as I am looking at it - Is that OK ? In this case what should I write down ?
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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Yes this is normal.. what number ranges are you seeing for numbers 3,4,5&7? They are the driver and passamger side heater core temp(3-4), evaporator temp(5), and refregerant pressure(7) . All 4 should fluctuate up and down as your A/C compressor swashplate angle is changing in order to keep evaporator core cold without freezing..
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_S500
what number ranges are you seeing
Thanks Jeff.. Attaching my results..
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 10:32 PM
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#1 is your in car temp sensor. It is reading 0.. the climate controll thinks the cars interior temp is 0 deg.. you need to replace the cabin air temp sensor. The evaporator temp is very cold like it should be. Because the car thinks it is colder in the car than it really is it is queing the duovalve to open and let warm engine coolant into the heater cores. Fixing cabin temp sensor will alow duovalve to close and back to cold you go! Hope this has been helpful. Keep us posted...

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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_S500
you need to replace the cabin air temp sensor..
Thank You Very Much !... Everything else checks out ? OR I will have to change it and take the readings again ?
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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No problem, Happy to help. Post back results.
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by XEONZ
Thank You Very Much !... Everything else checks out ? OR I will have to change it and take the readings again ?
Everything else looks great!
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Old Mar 27, 2014 | 10:51 PM
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I am Replacing... A/C Cabin Temperature Sensor

Mercedes Part Number: 123 830 05 72


Will Post the RESULT SOON...
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 04:40 PM
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Sorry that was the WRONG PART...

Correct Part is..


A/C Evaporator Temperature Switch
Mercedes Part Number: 2208300772 -- $30 for OEM -- DEALER WANTED $110
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Sensor #5 is the evap temp sensor. Your current evap temp sensor (srnsor #5)is showing a reading. Your cabin temp sensor #1 is reading 0 was it really 0 deg. in the car? I think the first temp sensor is the one that is bad... (Sensor #1 cabin temp sensor)
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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff_S500
Sensor #5 is the evap temp sensor. Your current evap temp sensor (srnsor #5)is showing a reading. Your cabin temp sensor #1 is reading 0 was it really 0 deg. in the car? I think the first temp sensor is the one that is bad... (Sensor #1 cabin temp sensor)
This is the Part # the dealer gave when I asked for Cabin Temperature Sensor.. The other part I posted earlier was for Models 99 and older. Is this 2 in 1 Part ?
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Ran Mercedes Benz Star Diagnosis ... It showed Problem with Evaporator Temperature Sensor..

Surprisingly Cabin Temperature Sensor Checked Out...

Can anyone explain why this discrepancy between Star Diagnosis & Readings from A/C Sensor values ??
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It may be because of the ambient air temp. A/C is hard to diagnose in cold weather.. Try running test again on a warmer day.. If SDS software says the problem is the evap temp sensor, I would go with that diagnosis..
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Originally Posted by Jeff_S500
If SDS software says the problem is the evap temp sensor, I would go with that diagnosis..
Thank You for helping me out JEFF.. Very Much Appreciated!
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Originally Posted by XEONZ
Thank You for helping me out JEFF.. Very Much Appreciated!
No problem. Hope the info was helpful.. Post any new results..
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Change both sensors if its easy enough to rule out both
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