Help!!! Power steering blew up!
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W221 S500 2010
Help!!! Power steering blew up!
Hello friends:
I am spending a few days with my brother away from Madrid and, while driving in town, I was suddenly left without power steering. I managed to park and could see a pool of PS fluid like thre meters before the place where I detected the failure. A warning “AVERÍA ABC” (ABC malfunction) showed up. The engine bay was full of PS fluid, which I cleaned as best as I could.
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Any ideas? Why a PS blowup triggered a ABC malfunction warning?
Any help will be welcomed.
I am spending a few days with my brother away from Madrid and, while driving in town, I was suddenly left without power steering. I managed to park and could see a pool of PS fluid like thre meters before the place where I detected the failure. A warning “AVERÍA ABC” (ABC malfunction) showed up. The engine bay was full of PS fluid, which I cleaned as best as I could.
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Any ideas? Why a PS blowup triggered a ABC malfunction warning?
Any help will be welcomed.
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ABC systems have a cross wind compensation feature - thus the suspension and PAS are linked sharing the same fluid....
its probably a suspension unit or the pump than has popped a seal - various people overhaul as vastly reduced prices - or you're going to need a mortgage to get it fixed.
ABC system flush and filter change should be done at a minimum of 2 years or 25k mile if you want it to last
its probably a suspension unit or the pump than has popped a seal - various people overhaul as vastly reduced prices - or you're going to need a mortgage to get it fixed.
ABC system flush and filter change should be done at a minimum of 2 years or 25k mile if you want it to last
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Apparently it is not a random pump any more, but a single pump with two outlets that serve both circuits.
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Call it whatever you want. The parts catalog calls the pump a hydraulic pump, then calls everything around it mounting bolts, brackets, etc. "for tandem pump". That assumes you're talking about the 2003 CL 500 in your info, which is not a W221 so it would be in the wrong forum anyway. Just trying to help out. One pump, two systems. That's why losing power steering will cause ABC malfunctions, which was your original question unless I'm reading it wrong.
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I have some bad news for you. You need someone who is knowledgeable about the ABC system to repair this. If you don't know whether the filter and fluid have been maintained properly, you should plan to service the entire ABC, fluid (Pentocin) and filter, valve block, with rodeo. This will make you ask yourself, "How much money do I have?".
But after you have spent all your cash on proper maintenance, this car will drive like a dream. Ask me how I know about all of this. Yup.
But after you have spent all your cash on proper maintenance, this car will drive like a dream. Ask me how I know about all of this. Yup.
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I'd be willing to bet your main ABC pressure hose has blown. It is the one which goes from the pump to the front valve block. Easiest way to check is to fill the reservoir back up and start the car and look in the engine bay. You'll quickly see where it is leaking from - shut the car off quickly though. If the pump ran without fluid for long then you will have to also replace the pump. It is not too labour intensive but parts prices can be expensive. A number of people rebuild the pumps - eBay can guide you.
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Yup. My main hose gave out (the silly thing is 300 psi) and I replaced it. Sprayed Pentocin all over my engine and hood and under-chassis covers. What a mess. Didn't run the pump dry. Ran fine for two weeks. Then the valve block got contaminated because I didn't change the filter when I changed the hose. So I decided to do it all correctly and installed a new front valve block, new filter, totally new Pentocin, and a rodeo. Now it rides like a dream. I have learned my lesson. Every 20K miles or two years, new Pentocin fluid and a new filter.
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Originally Posted by vettebk
My main hose gave out (the silly thing is 300 psi)
Do you have to remove any other components to get the hose off?
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Thanks to all of you. I am getting a lot of useful information.
Yes, I know about Pentosin spraying all over the place. It hit the engine block an vaporized, creating a clout I inhaled a couple lungfuls that left me a little dizzy.
Íll try to fix it myself. I can count on good tools and good help (maybe I will be the “help” actually”).
I will keep you posted.
Yes, I know about Pentosin spraying all over the place. It hit the engine block an vaporized, creating a clout I inhaled a couple lungfuls that left me a little dizzy.
Íll try to fix it myself. I can count on good tools and good help (maybe I will be the “help” actually”).
I will keep you posted.
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Hi,
When I collected the car this morning, there was a “T” junction in hte cooling system broken and iit was loosing refrigerant. I don’t believe in randomness, so I think there must be a relationship. Anyone can see causality here?
When I collected the car this morning, there was a “T” junction in hte cooling system broken and iit was loosing refrigerant. I don’t believe in randomness, so I think there must be a relationship. Anyone can see causality here?
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Is this the main hose on your S600? Attachment 426068
Do you have to remove any other components to get the hose off?
Do you have to remove any other components to get the hose off?
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It seems it “might” be the rupture of the coolant hose that led to the loss of power steering through generously spreading coolant all over the place which may have made the belt slip on the abc-***-power steering pump.
The culprit is the ”T” junction in the attached pictures, but I cannot find that piece on EPC. Can someone give the number for that piece?
The culprit is the ”T” junction in the attached pictures, but I cannot find that piece on EPC. Can someone give the number for that piece?
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it looks like a straight bit of pipe.... I doubt a manufacturer would do that, the failure you got would be too common. Has someone "modified" your vehicle?
https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/e...221071/63w/50/
could it be 510 in this (designed as an all in one part?) or at the bottom 61 or 151
https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/e...71/63w/50/165/
https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/e...221071/63w/50/
could it be 510 in this (designed as an all in one part?) or at the bottom 61 or 151
https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/e...71/63w/50/165/
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Mistery solved!
The car runs on LPG and that T is where thy get hot water to warm the evaporator. The bulb lit on my head when I removed the piece and read TARTARINI on it.
They are sending a new METAL one.
The car runs on LPG and that T is where thy get hot water to warm the evaporator. The bulb lit on my head when I removed the piece and read TARTARINI on it.
They are sending a new METAL one.
