Run Flats?
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Kratos, I can honestly say you live in my brain.
This morning, I drove the Audi A8L with 19" an regular all season tires.
They are with thick rubber - nothing low profile about them.
I must say, I felt more of a smoothness, but the craters and road hazards STILL translated into the car.
It is very possible we may see only a marginal improvement when we make the switch.
I am confidant though that an improvement, as little or as great, will still be better than what we have now. The softness of the NON runflat tires alone will initiate a better drive.
20" will always have a sporty ride, but what we have now, is quite a bit TOO sporty.
This morning, I drove the Audi A8L with 19" an regular all season tires.
They are with thick rubber - nothing low profile about them.
I must say, I felt more of a smoothness, but the craters and road hazards STILL translated into the car.
It is very possible we may see only a marginal improvement when we make the switch.
I am confidant though that an improvement, as little or as great, will still be better than what we have now. The softness of the NON runflat tires alone will initiate a better drive.
20" will always have a sporty ride, but what we have now, is quite a bit TOO sporty.
Just FYI, Airmatic suspensions have always been softer than ABC, either in Comfort or Sport setting.
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Just FYI, Airmatic suspensions have always been softer than ABC, either in Comfort or Sport setting.
I also think the magic Body Control is going to make the entire setup a lot more smooth. Just these darn tires...
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Ok, I know that mine comes with the standard air matic suspension (I believe improved for 2014). But what does ABC mean for those us that are not into these things?
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Our wheel locks were in a little plastic box with the plain normal lugnuts. This was put in the compartment in the trunk, where the spare would normally be.
Added this pic, hoping it helps in what the size of the box is you are looking for.
Added this pic, hoping it helps in what the size of the box is you are looking for.
Last edited by DaveVY; Mar 12, 2014 at 04:18 PM. Reason: Added pic
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Active Body Control, or ABC, is the Mercedes-Benz brand name used to describe fully active suspension, that allows control of the vehicle body motions and therefore virtually eliminates body roll in many driving situations including cornering, accelerating, and braking.
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Airmatic is Air Suspension which can be made soft or stiff depending on your
Active Body Control, or ABC, is the Mercedes-Benz brand name used to describe fully active suspension, that allows control of the vehicle body motions and therefore virtually eliminates body roll in many driving situations including cornering, accelerating, and braking.
Active Body Control, or ABC, is the Mercedes-Benz brand name used to describe fully active suspension, that allows control of the vehicle body motions and therefore virtually eliminates body roll in many driving situations including cornering, accelerating, and braking.
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ABC was enhanced with the road surfacing scanning in 2014 and renamed to MBC (magic body control). So anyone with an airmatic suspension (like me) do not have the MBC.
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Thanks Dave and Chucky for the clarification. That includes yours truly with Airmatic suspension as well. I could not order the MBC even if I wanted it since I wanted 4Matic.
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Yup def. All the S65 and S63 had 20" without runflat and no one ever complained about the ride. Absolutely. ABC is a sportier ride. However I must say, I never experienced any discomfort whatsoever with ABC. I also think the magic Body Control is going to make the entire setup a lot more smooth. Just these darn tires...
ABC is great for ride comfort. No complaints ever and I have 20" rears on the SL with even wider/lower profile tires than you have on your S550.
Btw. The marks on your rims do look like tool marks from tire removal...
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Driving on the moon would be smoother...
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I'll return to my normal self...3...2....1.... back
THESE GOD DAMN RUN FLATS SUCK!
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Just to clarify, I, nor Kratos, have ever commented on anything BUT the tires. You and K-A continue to add in "the ride quality of newer sport package benzes".
That isn't what we are saying. It is 100% about the tire. I have NO OTHER PROBLEMS with this car.
Just wanted to make that clear.
As for what excites K-A...
That isn't what we are saying. It is 100% about the tire. I have NO OTHER PROBLEMS with this car.
Just wanted to make that clear.
As for what excites K-A...
I even suggested that RFTs would probably prematurely wear out suspension components due to the hard ride to Kratos and it was something he thought about as well. I don't always agree with K-A but he does make a few good points and arguments.
Good on you guys for hopefully starting some sort of change and hopefully more S Class owners will be vocal but in a professional manner about this RFT issue.
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Well I turned that car upside down.....no wheel lock. I called my dealer....she said that my car didn't have it on the order, so my car doesn't have a lock. I have to purchase one for $140. Learn something new everyday, never knew you have to remember to order a wheel lock. Been buying cars for years and still don't know everything.
Anyway, I took the car back home disappointed that something so small kept me from putting my new tires on. Oh well.....guess I have to wait till I can get to MB on Friday. I'm gonna call beforehand though and make sure they have a lock in stock before I go.
Anyway, I took the car back home disappointed that something so small kept me from putting my new tires on. Oh well.....guess I have to wait till I can get to MB on Friday. I'm gonna call beforehand though and make sure they have a lock in stock before I go.
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Well I turned that car upside down.....no wheel lock. I called my dealer....she said that my car didn't have it on the order, so my car doesn't have a lock. I have to purchase one for $140. Learn something new everyday, never knew you have to remember to order a wheel lock. Been buying cars for years and still don't know everything.
Anyway, I took the car back home disappointed that something so small kept me from putting my new tires on. Oh well.....guess I have to wait till I can get to MB on Friday. I'm gonna call beforehand though and make sure they have a lock in stock before I go.
Anyway, I took the car back home disappointed that something so small kept me from putting my new tires on. Oh well.....guess I have to wait till I can get to MB on Friday. I'm gonna call beforehand though and make sure they have a lock in stock before I go.
I would tell the dealer they better fix it, and fix it now.
Last edited by DaveVY; Mar 12, 2014 at 06:54 PM.
