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Wolfman 09-10-2014 03:08 AM

S-Class Coupe or AMG GT?
 
Now that the AMG GT is public, I am leaning towards that car. Just stunning and very fast...

Here is a picture gallery (in German, sorry)
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/merced...713.html#bild1

LovinMercedes 09-10-2014 04:05 AM

I don't like how these "floating" navigation screens are starting to show up in different models.

jrpisha 09-10-2014 08:07 AM

A very sexy looking car. Reminds me of BMW's Z8 from the early 2000's.

I agree with you Lovin - the dash is beautifully crafted and the large video panel looks out of place - like an afterthought...

Wolfman 09-10-2014 09:03 AM

Don't care for the floating screen either.
Interestingly, in the all German car mags, these screens are considered better than the old ones. More modern look, better ergonomic position and safer to use. Go figure...

Germancar1 09-10-2014 01:50 PM

They really are. Once you drive or sit in a newer Benz with it, like the new C you will realize why the placed it there like that. It really becomes handy really quickly.

M

WSH 09-10-2014 06:20 PM

IMO, 65 Coupe likely far more dynamically addictive on public roads....

GT has inadequate tq (as did SLS and NA 63) for fast, moderately busy fwys

Chassis set-ups optimized for smooth, fairly flat tracks (even on light cars) often yield less confidence inspiring precision/stability in mountain twisties w/bumps, camber changes, undulations, damp spots in AM coastal fog, tight/blind curves&oncoming cars, etc than a well-calibrated ABC/MBC, proper tires (e.g. Conti SC5), forged wheels, CCB, etc: for me, 3600lb SLS was less enjoyable in twisties driving than last-gen (>'11) 5000lb CL65....and far less enjoyable on same roads vs 4200lb '14 SL65 w/CCB

DCT (and MCT, PDK, etc) have dubious reliability w/known episodes of failing at-speed/in-traffic....and annoying jerkiness/hesitation in <35MPH urban/suburban routine driving

Wouldn't want to test safety of any small hatchback esp if rear-ended: have no need for rear seats of S65 but view them (along w/trunk structure) as critical part of my crumple zone esp if rear-ended, a reasonable scenario in sudden deceleration on busy, fast urban fwys

Prefer 65 engine/exhaust music (as heard from driver's perspective in a closed car) vs that of any other car (8 or 12 cyl), at any speed/accel band....for me, those Burmeister speakers, MagicSkyRoofs, etc are interesting industrial art but haven't used any car's infotainment/sunroof in ages since driving AMGs (why pollute aural pleasure of those phenomenal engines/exhausts/downshift blips, etc w/lesser music/noise?)

LovinMercedes 09-10-2014 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Germancar1 (Post 6163504)
They really are. Once you drive or sit in a newer Benz with it, like the new C you will realize why the placed it there like that. It really becomes handy really quickly.

M

I've sat in the new C and made the same statement there. BMW is also doing this but hoping MB doesn't go there in luxury market.

I can see how this can be a cost saving measure at the lower margins.

Wolfman 09-10-2014 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by WSH (Post 6163745)
IMO, 65 Coupe likely far more dynamically addictive on public roads....

GT has inadequate tq (as did SLS and NA 63) for fast, moderately busy fwys

Chassis set-ups optimized for smooth, fairly flat tracks (even on light cars) often yield less confidence inspiring precision/stability in mountain twisties w/bumps, camber changes, undulations, damp spots in AM coastal fog, tight/blind curves&oncoming cars, etc than a well-calibrated ABC/MBC, proper tires (e.g. Conti SC5), forged wheels, CCB, etc: for me, 3600lb SLS was less enjoyable in twisties driving than last-gen (>'11) 5000lb CL65....and far less enjoyable on same roads vs 4200lb '14 SL65 w/CCB

DCT (and MCT, PDK, etc) have dubious reliability w/known episodes of failing at-speed/in-traffic....and annoying jerkiness/hesitation in <35MPH urban/suburban routine driving

Wouldn't want to test safety of any small hatchback esp if rear-ended: have no need for rear seats of S65 but view them (along w/trunk structure) as critical part of my crumple zone esp if rear-ended, a reasonable scenario in sudden deceleration on busy, fast urban fwys

Prefer 65 engine/exhaust music (as heard from driver's perspective in a closed car) vs that of any other car (8 or 12 cyl), at any speed/accel band....for me, those Burmeister speakers, MagicSkyRoofs, etc are interesting industrial art but haven't used any car's infotainment/sunroof in ages since driving AMGs (why pollute aural pleasure of those phenomenal engines/exhausts/downshift blips, etc w/lesser music/noise?)

S65 coupe is an exception to the discussion because it is a stand-out car in every respect albeit its awesome but pretty old engine. While I didn't have the 65, I drove a SL600TT for 6 years and was absolutely in love with the torque which felt even more pronounced with the 5 speed transmission.

Speed-wise, the GT-S will beat any S-Class and in terms of dynamics, the suspension settings appear far more elaborate; there are now dynamic engine/transmission mounts (a la Porsche), different lock differential settings, etc. so I hope the car will better than prior MB's
Unlike the old SLS, this is a TT engine which should be easily tunable for more torque as well.
I do share your concerns about the DCT. They say it's completely reworked, but who knows...

I have been thoroughly impressed with the new S and more so with the coupe. My wife was clear that she was done with sedans (no kids, doesn't like big boats and we only drive them in the winter time anyways).

So it will be a coupe to replace the BMW and I am thinking about the S Class coupe or the GT. Am torn because the S-Class has so much to like but I like the sound/speed of the GT.
A test drive would easily tell but this will have to be ordered before I'll have a chance to drive one.

wilassasin 09-14-2014 08:44 PM

Both are beautiful, very good choice wish I were in ur shoes but honestly I would probably go SClass Coupe because it will be supported by MB just as the s class sedan. The AMG GT on the other hand will be an exotic edition and looks similar to a Porsche so it's really a hard decision.

sam9187 09-14-2014 10:29 PM

My choice is S63 Coupe

BenzV12 09-15-2014 04:29 AM

S Class Coupe would be my choice

TwinCam 09-15-2014 11:35 AM

S Class Coupe for me.


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