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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 12:40 AM
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Freaking sklpping wipers...

Has anybody else had issues with juddering/skipping wipers? I struggled with it at the beginning, and then I don't know if I finally got whatever was on the blades off or what, but they got quiet. I had the same set of blades from 10k miles to 40k miles and replaced them again, but I kept the old blades in case the new ones skipped. Sure enough, they skip like hell. I have scrubbed and stripped the windshield and scrubbed the blades, nothing worked. A shot from the washer will quiet them down for a minute or two. Driving around today in the rain I used a whole gallon of washer fluid. So tonight I stripped the glass again and put the old wipers with 30k on them back on and silence again...bizarre...

Ignore the smearing, its the humidity settling on the car when its stopped. In motion no smearing exists:

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Old wipers back on:


Pretty much every MB I have driven has terrible, juddering wipers. Drove our Pacifica back from NJ this morning in the rain, it has incredible wipers compared to these...
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 12:47 AM
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Try these Bosch mentioned in this post:
https://mbworld.org/forums/gls-class...ml#post8879446
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 02:02 PM
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Have you tried applying rain-x to your windshield? Ever since I started using rain-x / ceramic wash I haven't had any skipping issues. Mine just need replacing due to age at this point.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 05:14 PM
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Sean, i agree. Rain-X is the answer.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 06:25 PM
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Try these Bosch mentioned in this post:
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Won't work on an S Class because of the magic vision control, only option for blades is the dealer.

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Have you tried applying rain-x to your windshield? Ever since I started using rain-x / ceramic wash I haven't had any skipping issues. Mine just need replacing due to age at this point.
Oh yeah, not Rain-X Specifically but other similar products.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 06:51 PM
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MB sells a special solvent for this problem to get contaminants off the windshields. Your old wipers likely have greasy grime on them that masks the contaminants that cause the fresh blades to judder. Products such as Rain-X and even commercial window cleaners make the issue worse over time. They all leave residue on the glass. I only clean my glass with a 50/50 mix of water and isopropyl alcohol. A secret I learned from a car detailer. It gets the grime and grease off that otherwise ends up on the blades. Living in mostly dry California I don't actually use my wipers very much and my biggest issue is that they dry out. Surprised you had the same blades for this long. As far as I know they are supposed to be replaced as part of the regular services. I got new blades with every service as far as I can remember and it was included in the maintenance package. Another thing I observed is that my blades actually got smoother after I had to replace my windshield due to a rock impact. I've made this observation before with other cars. It seems that the glass gets contaminated during transport, but fresh glass from the factory that isn't shipped installed on a car is free of contaminants and then using the water/alcohol mixture keeps future contaminants off.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 07:20 PM
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MB sells a special solvent for this problem to get contaminants off the windshields. Your old wipers likely have greasy grime on them that masks the contaminants that cause the fresh blades to judder. Products such as Rain-X and even commercial window cleaners make the issue worse over time. They all leave residue on the glass. I only clean my glass with a 50/50 mix of water and isopropyl alcohol. A secret I learned from a car detailer. It gets the grime and grease off that otherwise ends up on the blades. Living in mostly dry California I don't actually use my wipers very much and my biggest issue is that they dry out. Surprised you had the same blades for this long. As far as I know they are supposed to be replaced as part of the regular services. I got new blades with every service as far as I can remember and it was included in the maintenance package. Another thing I observed is that my blades actually got smoother after I had to replace my windshield due to a rock impact. I've made this observation before with other cars. It seems that the glass gets contaminated during transport, but fresh glass from the factory that isn't shipped installed on a car is free of contaminants and then using the water/alcohol mixture keeps future contaminants off.
Dealer tried it, did nothing. I don't clean the windshield with anything but good quality automotive glass cleaners and/or an IPA spray like CarPro Refresh which is the same as your IPA mix. Blades and glass have been thoroughly cleaned, and those old blades were regularly cleaned too and the samr cleaning regimen has been used with them too. I don't use any sealants or coatings on the glass at all. The car does go through an automatic carwash but the windshield is cleaned with the Refresh and scrubbed with a pad after every wash. My other car goes through the same carwash and just regular automotive glass cleaner is used on it and there are never any judders,

In any event, this is a big issue with MB. No other car I have owned has ever had wipers this finnicky, and all the same cleaners and products are used on both my vehicles and the previous vehicles I have had. Lexus and Chrysler both have much better wipers (they are actually the same Denso wipers). Its a pretty common issue on all the forums here. This is a video of a GLC loaner I had, same issue with the wipers:

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In any event, this is a big issue with MB. No other car I have owned has ever had wipers this finnicky, and all the same cleaners and products are used on both my vehicles and the previous vehicles I have had. Lexus and Chrysler both have much better wipers (they are actually the same Denso wipers). Its a pretty common issue on all the forums here. This is a video of a GLC loaner I had, same issue with the wipers:
Yeah, I have picked up on the fact that it seems an especially common complaint with MB. However, I had similar issues with my Audis. Perhaps interesting is that I did European Delivery with my most recent cars. First with Audi and most recently with my AMG. I stayed two months with the last one, May and June and it was raining pretty much the entire month of May. No issues with the wipers during that time, but first rain in the winter of the following year my wipers were juddering here in the USA, but then got replaced during the service shortly after. Not sure what to make of it, other than perhaps more pollution and acidity in the rain here in the USA. Still doesn't explain why some cars don't have issues, but as said my MB is not the only car I've had this happen to.
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Maybe so, its the first car I have had issues with, but its my first European car. On my Lexus cars I would have skipping wipers until I went back to the OEM wipers which were great.
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Old Dec 18, 2023 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sean._.S
Have you tried applying rain-x to your windshield? Ever since I started using rain-x / ceramic wash I haven't had any skipping issues. Mine just need replacing due to age at this point.
I came here to say this.
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Won't work on an S Class because of the magic vision control, only option for blades is the dealer.



Oh yeah, not Rain-X Specifically but other similar products.
Here is another potential solution: https://mbworld.org/forums/gls-class...ml#post8888845
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Originally Posted by SW20S
Has anybody else had issues with juddering/skipping wipers? I struggled with it at the beginning, and then I don't know if I finally got whatever was on the blades off or what, but they got quiet. I had the same set of blades from 10k miles to 40k miles and replaced them again, but I kept the old blades in case the new ones skipped. Sure enough, they skip like hell. I have scrubbed and stripped the windshield and scrubbed the blades, nothing worked. A shot from the washer will quiet them down for a minute or two. Driving around today in the rain I used a whole gallon of washer fluid. So tonight I stripped the glass again and put the old wipers with 30k on them back on and silence again...bizarre...

Ignore the smearing, its the humidity settling on the car when its stopped. In motion no smearing exists:

New wipers:

https://youtu.be/UoMoHavHkKM

Old wipers back on:

https://youtu.be/dOlKmqr38tA

Pretty much every MB I have driven has terrible, juddering wipers. Drove our Pacifica back from NJ this morning in the rain, it has incredible wipers compared to these...
Mercedes has a special tool to adjust the angle of the Wiper arm, ask me how I know....
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
Mercedes has a special tool to adjust the angle of the Wiper arm, ask me how I know....
niceee. so how did you know then?? jk jk

I didn't know the angle of the swipe is the reason why it is skipping? Learned something today.
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Old Dec 19, 2023 | 01:41 PM
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There are YT videos showing how to adjust it by slight bend/twist to the arm to adjust the angle of the wiper blade to the windscreen.
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Originally Posted by Nice Ride
Mercedes has a special tool to adjust the angle of the Wiper arm, ask me how I know....
You would think though the issue would be the same from set of blades to set of blades. Sounds like they should adjust them all before they give them to customers...

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There are YT videos showing how to adjust it by slight bend/twist to the arm to adjust the angle of the wiper blade to the windscreen.
I have seen that, I aint bending my wiper arms
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My wife just got her new GLE 450 ( 1 month ago) and the front windshield smears like crazy when it rains and is scary to drive. We have washed it and it looks and feels like there is a film or grease or something on the window. Washed multiple times and still an issue. Need to try new wipers - any suggestions? Don’t want to replace with MB at this point. Her old ML350 never had this issue. We do have the acoustic glass if that makes a difference.

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Maybe the new wipers are defective? Lol

It’s not an MB thing, because mine have been fine. Bought a set from FCP Euro. The old set from previous owner was so old the little holes were clogged and the magic vision was terrible.

My fiancée’s Lexus IS 250 does stutter, and rain x cures the problem, temporarily. I’ve only ever noticed it doing it since a windshield replacement via Safelite, and they used some cheap aftermarket brand. Not sure if that has anything to do with it. After awhile it does start to stutter again and this last cure was some generic brand that America’s Tire sells.
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If you look around the forum skipping wipers is a common issue with MB. Every MB loaner I have ever had for instance has had terrible skipping wipers. The original set I had on the car also skipped, since going back to the set I had before this latest set they are perfect again.

If the wipers are defective that’s also on MB, $200 set of wiper blades 2 out of the 3 sets I have had shouldn’t be bad.
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Originally Posted by dhughan23
My wife just got her new GLE 450 ( 1 month ago) and the front windshield smears like crazy when it rains and is scary to drive. We have washed it and it looks and feels like there is a film or grease or something on the window. Washed multiple times and still an issue. Need to try new wipers - any suggestions? Don’t want to replace with MB at this point. Her old ML350 never had this issue. We do have the acoustic glass if that makes a difference.

thanks for any advice!
You should polish the windshield with a dedicated glass polish, after claying. This should remove the residue and any road film on the windshield.
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You should polish the windshield with a dedicated glass polish, after claying. This should remove the residue and any road film on the windshield.
Even that may not work though, didn't work in my case.
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Just to be clear, I am suggesting machine polishing. Much more effective than hand polishing. May need to be followed by glass or paint sealant to achieve best wiper performance.
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Just to be clear, I am suggesting machine polishing. Much more effective than hand polishing. May need to be followed by glass or paint sealant to achieve best wiper performance.
Yep, I machined polished the windshield and the wipers still skipped.

In any event, the wipers should just work, even if all of this did fix the issue, it shouldn't be necessary and isn't necessary on other brands of cars. This is the first car I have ever had issues with skipping wipers on, and to have every loaner I have had and driven in the rain have the same issue?
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Originally Posted by SW20S
If you look around the forum skipping wipers is a common issue with MB. Every MB loaner I have ever had for instance has had terrible skipping wipers. The original set I had on the car also skipped, since going back to the set I had before this latest set they are perfect again.

If the wipers are defective that’s also on MB, $200 set of wiper blades 2 out of the 3 sets I have had shouldn’t be bad.
Point is, it isn't an issue exclusive to MB. It's just that MB has expensive magic vision blades so it makes it worse.

If you're having skipping issues with the new wipers, but not the old one, obviously it's not the glass. The wipers should be returned and exchanged for being defective.
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Just drove cross country… snow, slush, lots of road grime and spray when working around trucks, and my wipers worked great. Magic Vision with the heated fluid cleaned the windshield really well. After reading about issues I had a new set of blades with me just in case.

I’ve also coated my windshield with C-Bond so maybe that helped with smoothness of the glass.

While the wipers worked great I did have other issues. Will post in a separate thread.
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Point is, it isn't an issue exclusive to MB. It's just that MB has expensive magic vision blades so it makes it worse.

If you're having skipping issues with the new wipers, but not the old one, obviously it's not the glass. The wipers should be returned and exchanged for being defective.
This is an issue on MBs without the magic vision wipers. Clearly there is an issue here, it’s blade design or wiper arm design or something MB puts on their windshields or some combination of the two.

One set of wipers fine, but two sets out of the 3 sets I’ve had? And all the other posts about it? These posts aren’t over forums for other cars I read nor have I experienced it on other brands of cars I have had.
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