Recommendations on new tires/wheels
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Recommendations on new tires/wheels (on 21s with perellis)
Have a 2021 s580, about 20-25 flat tires in 10,000 miles due to potholes, finally over it and looking to switch.
19s with michellins? or any other recommendations,
on 21s with perelli pzero p4s
19s with michellins? or any other recommendations,
on 21s with perelli pzero p4s
Last edited by bulique; Mar 29, 2023 at 05:22 PM.
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Wow that sucks.
You ever submit a claim to the local jurisdiction? The only caveat is if the city or county has not been made aware of the pothole, they will kick it back and not pay it. What you have to do is report any potholes you see. Usually there’s a web portal that allows you to report them or just call 311. Once the local jurisdiction has been made aware of the pothole, they usually have to pay any claim made against it. Even if you didn’t report the pothole, there’s a moderate chance someone else did and you can still file a claim. Just be prepared to wait a while for a response and/or reimbursement.
You ever submit a claim to the local jurisdiction? The only caveat is if the city or county has not been made aware of the pothole, they will kick it back and not pay it. What you have to do is report any potholes you see. Usually there’s a web portal that allows you to report them or just call 311. Once the local jurisdiction has been made aware of the pothole, they usually have to pay any claim made against it. Even if you didn’t report the pothole, there’s a moderate chance someone else did and you can still file a claim. Just be prepared to wait a while for a response and/or reimbursement.
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I have had no flats or pothole damage, I was looking for the most quiet & comfortable riding tires. After researching all the major brands, it came to a choice between Pirelli and Continental. I went with Continental Procontact RX T2 255/45/19. These have the noise canceling foam inside. MUCH improved ride and the quietist tires I have ever had. That said, if I had your issue of flats & damage, I’d probably go Michelin as well, as they as close to bulletproof you can get. Best of luck to you.
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Wow that sucks.
You ever submit a claim to the local jurisdiction? The only caveat is if the city or county has not been made aware of the pothole, they will kick it back and not pay it. What you have to do is report any potholes you see. Usually there’s a web portal that allows you to report them or just call 311. Once the local jurisdiction has been made aware of the pothole, they usually have to pay any claim made against it. Even if you didn’t report the pothole, there’s a moderate chance someone else did and you can still file a claim. Just be prepared to wait a while for a response and/or reimbursement.
You ever submit a claim to the local jurisdiction? The only caveat is if the city or county has not been made aware of the pothole, they will kick it back and not pay it. What you have to do is report any potholes you see. Usually there’s a web portal that allows you to report them or just call 311. Once the local jurisdiction has been made aware of the pothole, they usually have to pay any claim made against it. Even if you didn’t report the pothole, there’s a moderate chance someone else did and you can still file a claim. Just be prepared to wait a while for a response and/or reimbursement.
I was brushing most of them under the bush for a while as I had replaced so many that my perellis were on warranty everytime they punctured. But just recently had went on a 6 hour road trip and had 3 different flats in the middle of nowhere after getting 2 tires repaired leaving me in a non suitable situation for my 21st birthday spending 15 hours on the road, had to spend like 3.5k on tow trucks and new tires. Finally brought me here to find that everyone on 21s with perellis have the same issue. Went to research reimbursement to the local jurisdiction of these potholes as all 3 happened in same city, and found that you unfortunately need a police report and pictures of potholes themself, which I didn’t have.
Yeah, these 10,000 miles on my s580 have not been fun ones.
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I have had no flats or pothole damage, I was looking for the most quiet & comfortable riding tires. After researching all the major brands, it came to a choice between Pirelli and Continental. I went with Continental Procontact RX T2 255/45/19. These have the noise canceling foam inside. MUCH improved ride and the quietist tires I have ever had. That said, if I had your issue of flats & damage, I’d probably go Michelin as well, as they as close to bulletproof you can get. Best of luck to you.
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I was brushing most of them under the bush for a while as I had replaced so many that my perellis were on warranty everytime they punctured. But just recently had went on a 6 hour road trip and had 3 different flats in the middle of nowhere after getting 2 tires repaired leaving me in a non suitable situation for my 21st birthday spending 15 hours on the road, had to spend like 3.5k on tow trucks and new tires. Finally brought me here to find that everyone on 21s with perellis have the same issue. Went to research reimbursement to the local jurisdiction of these potholes as all 3 happened in same city, and found that you unfortunately need a police report and pictures of potholes themself, which I didn’t have.
Yeah, these 10,000 miles on my s580 have not been fun ones.
Yeah, these 10,000 miles on my s580 have not been fun ones.
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The PS S5 is going to be out pretty soon. That one is supposed to have a version with acoustic foam and is alleged to be designed to hold up to more weight. I'm guessing the latter is aimed at the increasing numbers of EVs. The PS 4s were actually pretty quiet despite their performance potential, so this one may be worth considering.
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21" low profile tires GARBAGE
Hello, three weeks in, five flats later ( blow outs actually ) the Michelines are a superior product to the pirellis for the 21" rim. I have hit several small potholes ( one large ) without incident. Today, I hit a very small pothole, very large blowout on my front tire. I am so disappointed, this is my second Mercedes S class, I love this car. The flat tires are a deal breaker. I am waiting a return call from the dealer, hopefully tomorrow about the possibility of 19" rims and a heftier tire. to be determined arghhhh
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Just put on Conti DWS06 Plus - Very VERY happy
I swapped out the Bridgestone LS100 Turanza Run flats that came with my vehicle today. They were not bad tires. After a few days - they started to break in - and I thought about leaving them.
Since I already ordered the Continentals, I had them replaced today.
WHAT A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!
No Noise, No bumps - just a nice smooth quiet ride.
Since I already ordered the Continentals, I had them replaced today.
WHAT A HUGE DIFFERENCE!!
No Noise, No bumps - just a nice smooth quiet ride.
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Hello, three weeks in, five flats later ( blow outs actually ) the Michelines are a superior product to the pirellis for the 21" rim. I have hit several small potholes ( one large ) without incident. Today, I hit a very small pothole, very large blowout on my front tire. I am so disappointed, this is my second Mercedes S class, I love this car. The flat tires are a deal breaker. I am waiting a return call from the dealer, hopefully tomorrow about the possibility of 19" rims and a heftier tire. to be determined arghhhh
Swapped out the runflats with regular tires
Ride quality is best its been - ever.
Smooth, Quiet, Responsive
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Hello, three weeks in, five flats later ( blow outs actually ) the Michelines are a superior product to the pirellis for the 21" rim. I have hit several small potholes ( one large ) without incident. Today, I hit a very small pothole, very large blowout on my front tire. I am so disappointed, this is my second Mercedes S class, I love this car. The flat tires are a deal breaker. I am waiting a return call from the dealer, hopefully tomorrow about the possibility of 19" rims and a heftier tire. to be determined arghhhh
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Maybe in some rarefied atmosphere in a Middle East “Petro-Utopia,” where every road is smooth as silk, a W223 on 21’s might make sense. If you live most anywhere else, 21’s are ridiculous. MB knew this going in, so one wonders just WHY they offer 21’s as an option. Now, legions of unsuspecting customers who bought or leased these cars with the very expensive 21” wheel option are having major issues and where oh where is MB? At the very least, MB should be offering no cost swaps for 19” wheels & tires, along with a refund of the option price. Instead, owners are left on their own to fix the problem. When you buy any MB—let alone their flagship S Class—one would trust that it would come equipped to handle normal use in the area where it was sold. If, for some reason, there are issues such as all these destroyed wheels & tires, shouldn’t we think that a company like MB would do the right thing and stand behind their products? Is that too much to ask?
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Amen to that, brother.
Finally gave up the fight and replaced my worthless Pirelli P-Zeros (of which I’d already replaced 3 blowouts) for Michelins at a cost of almost $4000. I tried to buy OE 19” wheels but they were exorbitant.
Also moved to Florida from San Diego with its third world roads and am hoping for the best.
Too bad Mercedes doesn’t do the right thing with their 21” problem. It certainly will influence my next car purchase.
Finally gave up the fight and replaced my worthless Pirelli P-Zeros (of which I’d already replaced 3 blowouts) for Michelins at a cost of almost $4000. I tried to buy OE 19” wheels but they were exorbitant.
Also moved to Florida from San Diego with its third world roads and am hoping for the best.
Too bad Mercedes doesn’t do the right thing with their 21” problem. It certainly will influence my next car purchase.
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At first I was kind of skeptical that the tire size was the issue. There are many cars and SUVs out there with similar, if not heavier, sidewall thickness to weight ratio. The OEM 22’s on my previous X5 is a good example and there are no blowout complaints on the forum as far as I’m aware. While forum reports are anecdotal either way, based on the high frequency of reported and repeated issues here (especially considering the very small population and sample size) I tend to believe there likely is an issue.
There must be something else going on that is causing these blowouts. I don’t believe it is a simple matter of that sidewall to weight ratio as the sole cause. Something hokey with the suspension is also contributing imo and the 21” tires just exposes this issue easier versus smaller, more forgiving tire sizes. Every now and then the suspension responds very harshly over bumps. Surprisingly harshly. I don’t know why but it’s bone jarring at times.
Do our cars have active suspension that track the road ahead via cameras and “responds accordingly?”
There must be something else going on that is causing these blowouts. I don’t believe it is a simple matter of that sidewall to weight ratio as the sole cause. Something hokey with the suspension is also contributing imo and the 21” tires just exposes this issue easier versus smaller, more forgiving tire sizes. Every now and then the suspension responds very harshly over bumps. Surprisingly harshly. I don’t know why but it’s bone jarring at times.
Do our cars have active suspension that track the road ahead via cameras and “responds accordingly?”
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