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Old May 9, 2025 | 02:20 PM
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I wanted to show the SA a screen shot of the battery state of charge in an attempt to get the battery warrantied. Keep in mind new 2024, purchased March 5, 2025, build date Nov 2023, 1100 miles. I just got off the phone with the SA and he told me Mercedes doesn’t warranty batteries. He’s going to talk to his supervisor. Although, I didn’t purchase the car from this dealer I did buy my wife’s 2024 GLE450 from them as well as a couple of other MB’s in years past. Plus we do most of our service work there.
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Old May 9, 2025 | 02:24 PM
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Still can’t get into the workshop menu. Can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. If I keep this up I’ll wear out the home and OK buttons.
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Old May 9, 2025 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by retatt
Still can’t get into the workshop menu. Can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. If I keep this up I’ll wear out the home and OK buttons.
It is capacitive touch though so you are just pressing on plastic is it? Or is it glass.

not sure why you are not able to get into workshop menu.
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Old May 9, 2025 | 02:29 PM
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https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w...2023-s580.html
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Old May 9, 2025 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by retatt
I wanted to show the SA a screen shot of the battery state of charge in an attempt to get the battery warrantied. Keep in mind new 2024, purchased March 5, 2025, build date Nov 2023, 1100 miles. I just got off the phone with the SA and he told me Mercedes doesn’t warranty batteries. He’s going to talk to his supervisor. Although, I didn’t purchase the car from this dealer I did buy my wife’s 2024 GLE450 from them as well as a couple of other MB’s in years past. Plus we do most of our service work there.
Hopefully they end up helping otherwise you might need to try another dealership.
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Old May 10, 2025 | 12:33 PM
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My ’21 S580 (I’ve had it a year now) kept indicating “partially charged” on the Mercedes Me app—rarely did it indicate battery fully charged, and the car would not go into standby mode indicating “Battery charge insufficient for activating standby mode”.

Brought it to the dealer several times and they said the battery tested fine, questioned how I drove the car, short trips or long trips, and concluded it likely just needed the battery software update. Prior to this, I thought it might be the key fob interacting with the car all the time and draining the battery, so I tried a Faraday box—I actually tested the Faraday box as well—and I was able to get into the service menu check and the charge level, which looked to be fine.

After I gave the dealership 3/5 stars on a review, the service manager amazingly offered to replace the battery. The new battery is now always charged on Mercedes Me, I can put the car in standby mode anytime I wish with 20+ weeks, and my Faraday box is in the closet now. Everything is perfect. Even when I might be parked in the car, listening to music, fiddling with MBUX and running the battery down for an hour+…by the time I drive home (20 min), I’m fully charged. Every time. No question.

My recommendation would be to simply replace the battery. I would have done it a lot earlier if I had only known…warranty or no warranty…they aren’t that expensive. In retrospect, I probably should have taken a ride to my local independent German auto repair garage, buy a battery from him, and struck up a little conversation as it might be nice to have someone besides a dealer available to perform any future repairs I might need (I’m thinking of those expensive brakes )

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Old May 10, 2025 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBlackPanther
My ’21 S580 (I’ve had it a year now) kept indicating “partially charged” on the Mercedes Me app—rarely did it indicate battery fully charged, and the car would not go into standby mode indicating “Battery charge insufficient for activating standby mode”.

Brought it to the dealer several times and they said the battery tested fine, questioned how I drove the car, short trips or long trips, and concluded it likely just needed the battery software update. Prior to this, I thought it might be the key fob interacting with the car all the time and draining the battery, so I tried a Faraday box—I actually tested the Faraday box as well—and I was able to get into the service menu check and the charge level, which looked to be fine.

After I gave the dealership 3/5 stars on a review, the service manager amazingly offered to replace the battery. The new battery is now always charged on Mercedes Me, I can put the car in standby mode anytime I wish with 20+ weeks, and my Faraday box is in the closet now. Everything is perfect. Even when I might be parked in the car, listening to music, fiddling with MBUX and running the battery down for an hour+…by the time I drive home (20 min), I’m fully charged. Every time. No question.

My recommendation would be to simply replace the battery. I would have done it a lot earlier if I had only known…warranty or no warranty…they aren’t that expensive. In retrospect, I probably should have taken a ride to my local independent German auto repair garage, buy a battery from him, and struck up a little conversation as it might be nice to have someone besides a dealer available to perform any future repairs I might need (I’m thinking of those expensive brakes )
Glad to hear it worked out now, ah that review did the trick : )
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Old May 10, 2025 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
This is how to check the 48V battery charge level: https://mbworld.org/forums/glb-class...rge-level.html

Please report back your findings (level).

You can also check your 12V battery charge level in that menu, report that info back as well.


Finally, got the workshop menu. I found that I was hesitating between the Home button and the O K button. A sense of urgency is required. I consider myself deliberate my wife prefers slow.
I’ve attached photos of the 12 volt and 48 volt data screens.



The screens above show the data after a short drive.



At idle after a short drive.



At idle upon start.


Data screens when workshop menu first accessed.

My untrained mind suggests that things don’t look to bad, but what do l know? When I put it in standby after the short drive(approximately 45 minutes in city traffic) it only measured my status as good for 5 weeks.
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Old May 10, 2025 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by retatt
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbworld.org-vbulletin/2000x1504/img_0257_0a3729f1d1963399af3823a6efe02a644184ce76. jpeg

Finally, got the workshop menu. I found that I was hesitating between the Home button and the O K button. A sense of urgency is required. I consider myself deliberate my wife prefers slow.
I’ve attached photos of the 12 volt and 48 volt data screens.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...59d78aea4.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6448b2487.jpeg

The screens above show the data after a short drive.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b843b21f9.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...43e6105c6.jpeg

At idle after a short drive.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6ae5286ac.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...6efe649d6.jpeg

At idle upon start.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...51eddf9cf.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...3e71ae079.jpeg
Data screens when workshop menu first accessed.

My untrained mind suggests that things don’t look to bad, but what do l know? When I put it in standby after the short drive(approximately 45 minutes in city traffic) it only measured my status as good for 5 weeks.
Hmmm 48V battery is at 43V.
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Old May 10, 2025 | 10:20 PM
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Charge state is at 38%
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MBNUT1
Charge state is at 38%
Oh yes true, got to check it once fully charged again.
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by retatt
After reading your post several times and additional attempts to pull up the workshop menu, I finally noticed the words “key in marked spot”. Does that mean the key must be in the cupholder slot or somewhere other than my pocket?
Different vehicle and mbux version but check to see if this helps by chance: https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...indicator.html
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:48 PM
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never mind I am replying to an old post, you already successfully entered workshop menu, please ignore the above post, sorry about that!
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Hmmm 48V battery is at 43V.
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Charge state is at 38%
Thank you both for hanging in there with me. If you view the attachments from the bottom up (I should have arranged them in a more logical sequence) the values you referred to improved after my short drive around town. It seems to me that the values should be closer to full charge and the 48 volt battery should be closer to 48 volts rather than at 46 volts. And, the 12volt voltage seems a little low. Any thoughts?

I’m thinking of checking the values this evening and then again after putting it on a charger overnight.
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:52 PM
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Or, should I be worried about the values you referred to as they show the state of the 48 volt battery after sitting for a couple of days?
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by retatt
Thank you both for hanging in there with me. If you view the attachments from the bottom up (I should have arranged them in a more logical sequence) the values you referred to improved after my short drive around town. It seems to me that the values should be closer to full charge and the 48 volt battery should be closer to 48 volts rather than at 46 volts. And, the 12volt voltage seems a little low. Any thoughts?

I’m thinking of checking the values this evening and then again after putting it on a charger overnight.
It does seem a little low, did you have a chance to drive the vehicle for 60 minutes non stop and check the charge? If not trickle charging it overnight might help.
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Old May 11, 2025 | 05:57 PM
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Or, should I be worried about the values you referred to as they show the state of the 48 volt battery after sitting for a couple of days?
The 48V battery needs to be charged while driving since the vehicle has to charge the 12V and 48V battery at the same time, it takes more time to charge them both, 60 minutes should be good though without turning off and at high speeds.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
The 48V battery needs to be charged while driving since the vehicle has to charge the 12V and 48V battery at the same time, it takes more time to charge them both, 60 minutes should be good though without turning off and at high speeds.
Sorry I mean highway speeds .
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Old May 11, 2025 | 06:30 PM
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Wife has Dr appointment about an hour away tomorrow. All freeway. I guess I’ll take her in my car. Worst case scenario is I just replace the 12 volt battery at my own expense. Any problem with having a local non Mercedes shop do the installation.
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Wife has Dr appointment about an hour away tomorrow. All freeway. I guess I’ll take her in my car. Worst case scenario is I just replace the 12 volt battery at my own expense. Any problem with having a local non Mercedes shop do the installation.
If you get yourself a copy of those workshop menus, you can even do it yourself, if I recalled correctly, it is straight forward and no programming is necessary as well.
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Oh yes true, got to check it once fully charged again.
The pictures showed 47V at 71% charge
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Originally Posted by MBNUT1
The pictures showed 47V at 71% charge
I can't remember what a 48V battery should be a full charge as you already know a 12V battery at full charge is way higher than 12V so I assume the principle is the same? I saw that image but isn't 71% at 47V a bit low?
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I can't remember what a 48V battery should be a full charge as you already know a 12V battery at full charge is way higher than 12V so I assume the principle is the same? I saw that image but isn't 71% at 47V a bit low?
What is the basis for your question?
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Originally Posted by MBNUT1
What is the basis for your question?
Sorry about that. From my goldfish memory perhaps, what is the voltage of the 48V battery when fully charged?
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