people are the problem
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2015 S65 AMG
people are the problem
i really don't understand when people say V12's are problematic, its a damn engine, in a car, just like a V6 or a V8 but a little bigger. everyone tells me about how V12 cars break, why doesn't mine? its people abusing the living hell out of there cars that makes them break, ever heard its not the car its the driver?, jackasses giving awesome cars a bad wrap because they cant take care of one. im about to have 70k miles and ill have a 170k just as easily.
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German vehicles stink, will never buy again. Moved on to Toyota and BYD.
I have a S600 and it has cost me over $50k in repairs. The motor hasnt given any problems just the ABC. It's in the shop right now second time this year the car had to be towed because the whole front end was sitting on the ground.
Love the car to death but the ABC hydraulic suspension can never be reliable. I heard they have gone magnetic in the W222.
Love the car to death but the ABC hydraulic suspension can never be reliable. I heard they have gone magnetic in the W222.
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2021 GLE63 AMG
I am pleased my ABC failed
Two weeks after I bought my 2004 S55 (11 October) big ole' red ABC light came on. Back in the shop under warranty. Someday I will get to drive it again.
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i really don't understand when people say V12's are problematic, its a damn engine, in a car, just like a V6 or a V8 but a little bigger. everyone tells me about how V12 cars break, why doesn't mine? its people abusing the living hell out of there cars that makes them break, ever heard its not the car its the driver?, jackasses giving awesome cars a bad wrap because they cant take care of one. im about to have 70k miles and ill have a 170k just as easily.
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06 SL65AMG, 13 Tesla Model S 60kwh, 02 Jaguar S-Type 3.0, 12 S550 4 Matic, 07 E320 Bluetec, 06 LX470
It's not that there unreliable its that maintenance involved, Like changing the engine mounts will cost 3,000 cause it will take 25-28 hrs to drop the engine to put them in, the coil packs go out id say every 50-80k miles and thats another 2400, spark plugs another 400-500 etc. Theirs a lot of upkeep to do.
But if you the regular maintenance stuff they last but people don't want to dish that type of money. Even after the warranty on my car runs out I'm still keeping it, and plan to change the turbos with GT35s, maybe 37s if they fit and try going for a 1200-1500 hp build as Speedriven finally did there GT30 set up that they posted a few weeks ago with dyno and video.
It's prob just jealously dude, if you can afford the maintenance then go for it, my SL65 always kept me happy and its fun smoking Ferrari's when the 65s are tuned.
And I know the feeling I got my SL65 last year when I was 23, but to offset my maintenance and cost I got a Tesla lol. Not paying for gas, oil changes, emission test, any other typical maintenance and not worrying about a single gear transmission breaking, or no engine I get my savings that way. I figured putting 12k so far and about 80 bucks for 240 on my SL65 compared to 5 dollars for the same distance in my Model S that's about 50 fill ups and 2 oil changes
(SL65 AMG avg cost for gas and oil = 50x80= $4000+$100+$400=$4500)
(Model S avg cost for electricity and no oil= 50x5 =250+0+0= $250)
So any money I save it most likely pays for stuff my SL wont be covered once warranty runs out
But if you the regular maintenance stuff they last but people don't want to dish that type of money. Even after the warranty on my car runs out I'm still keeping it, and plan to change the turbos with GT35s, maybe 37s if they fit and try going for a 1200-1500 hp build as Speedriven finally did there GT30 set up that they posted a few weeks ago with dyno and video.
It's prob just jealously dude, if you can afford the maintenance then go for it, my SL65 always kept me happy and its fun smoking Ferrari's when the 65s are tuned.
And I know the feeling I got my SL65 last year when I was 23, but to offset my maintenance and cost I got a Tesla lol. Not paying for gas, oil changes, emission test, any other typical maintenance and not worrying about a single gear transmission breaking, or no engine I get my savings that way. I figured putting 12k so far and about 80 bucks for 240 on my SL65 compared to 5 dollars for the same distance in my Model S that's about 50 fill ups and 2 oil changes
(SL65 AMG avg cost for gas and oil = 50x80= $4000+$100+$400=$4500)
(Model S avg cost for electricity and no oil= 50x5 =250+0+0= $250)
So any money I save it most likely pays for stuff my SL wont be covered once warranty runs out
