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sbainb 03-30-2017 06:43 PM

2009 S63 AMG Front Brake Rotors - OEM Alternative
 
Fellow Members,

I am looking to change-out the front rotors and pads on my ride in the next 3-6 months and just can't get past the jaw dropping price of these discs. I've shopped all the usual outlets for non-OEM units but am falling short. The cheapest i've found are $650 each (bargain compared to $1150 for MB units).

Of interest is that you can pick up rear non-OEM (Bosch) for ~$125 each (O'Reillys carry another brand in stock for $89). I can't believe someone hasn't began cranking these out in volume. I understand that they're big, but steel is cheap and easy to work, so as long as they're cast and turned well (and most modern parts are as the lathe's are all CNCs) there really is nothing in the material nor labor economics to justify the insane price.

Has anyone found a lead on cheaper units? Or has anyone found and tried cheaper units and had a positive/negative experience?

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Simon

:smash:

E42AMG??? 03-30-2017 11:05 PM

I would assume volume of sales would be unknown and most "amg owners" especially s class don't like buying parts from anywhere but the dealer.

You are completely right you could probably have a machine shop make theses for 500 a piece front, and 300 a piece rear.

With the e or c class I'm sure you will see way lower prices prices for obvious reasons but s class has little to no aftermarket support.

VinnyT 03-31-2017 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by sbainb (Post 7101051)
Fellow Members,

I am looking to change-out the front rotors and pads on my ride in the next 3-6 months and just can't get past the jaw dropping price of these discs. I've shopped all the usual outlets for non-OEM units but am falling short. The cheapest i've found are $650 each (bargain compared to $1150 for MB units).

Of interest is that you can pick up rear non-OEM (Bosch) for ~$125 each (O'Reillys carry another brand in stock for $89). I can't believe someone hasn't began cranking these out in volume. I understand that they're big, but steel is cheap and easy to work, so as long as they're cast and turned well (and most modern parts are as the lathe's are all CNCs) there really is nothing in the material nor labor economics to justify the insane price.

Has anyone found a lead on cheaper units? Or has anyone found and tried cheaper units and had a positive/negative experience?

Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Cheers,

Simon

:smash:

I looked at O'Reilly too. I would call them to make sure those fit your vehicle. I cannot believe there are $1150 OEM, $600-$800 aftermarket and then $100 O'Reilly's stock. Makes no sense.

On a side note, O'Reillys does NOT have rotors for my S65. BUT, I can get them online for $200~ even though the OEM's are $1000 +.

E42 is right. There are very few aftermarket suppliers for our AMG's as they are not a normal vehicle you see everyday.

If the O'Reilly rotors fit, get them. Unless you are running the hell out of your 63, they should work fine.

compaddict 03-31-2017 09:35 AM

Racing Brake has aftermarket two piece for 750.00 each if that helps. Replaceable rings.
I would do that before handing over the same money for OEM.
Let us know about the rears!
Vince

sbainb 03-31-2017 10:00 AM

VinnyT

O'Reillys only sell the rear discs - no fronts unfortunately. I have to believe it's a licensing issue. There is no way companies like Bosch would leave that much money on the table if they could use their manufacturing might to turn out front rotors and sell that at $250 each and steal the market (these rotors are common to S63, S65, CL, CLS...) That was my point. I realize the heaviest lifting (by far) is done by the front brakes - but that they're 8-11 times the price of the rear units (which are not exactly lightweight units either) is beyond me.

Where do you source $200 rotors from for your S65?

Thanks.

VinnyT 03-31-2017 10:20 AM

You're right about only being the rears. UGH. Same on the S65. However I can find fronts for mine for $400. Both at Partsgeek.com

sbainb 03-31-2017 04:45 PM

Cheapest I could find on partsgeek for fronts is $650 each.

eEuroparts has the same Bosch QuietCast ones as O'reilly's but $30 cheaper (each):

https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/625...lled-36011508/

Interestingly, most of the German parts stores list these rotors as incompatible for the 2009 S63 but Bosch, O'Reillys and a host of other sites say they are. The specs look identical to me and the alternative is soooo much more expensive it's worth trying them IMO. And by trying them I mean laying them side by side and measuring all the critical dimensions, weight's and thicknesses. I'll post back and review these rotors when I get them installed and have some miles on them.

compaddict 03-31-2017 05:46 PM

Thanks for that!
They list the same for 2011 S63.
It's got to be close for inexpensive fronts too!

E42AMG??? 03-31-2017 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by sbainb (Post 7101995)
Cheapest I could find on partsgeek for fronts is $650 each.

eEuroparts has the same Bosch QuietCast ones as O'reilly's but $30 cheaper (each):

https://www.eeuroparts.com/Parts/625...lled-36011508/

Interestingly, most of the German parts stores list these rotors as incompatible for the 2009 S63 but Bosch, O'Reillys and a host of other sites say they are. The specs look identical to me and the alternative is soooo much more expensive it's worth trying them IMO. And by trying them I mean laying them side by side and measuring all the critical dimensions, weight's and thicknesses. I'll post back and review these rotors when I get them installed and have some miles on them.

You may want to get them from oriellys so you can return them easier, but make sure because some stuff that is special order isn't returnable.

As as for the fronts, I would keep looking for a little while.

RacingBrake 04-02-2017 01:05 PM

The only and best OE replacement/upgrade for S63/S65 in the market.
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-R.../mb-irk-04.htm

Can you imagine how your S63/65 can improve in performance, handling, and save the wear in pad and tire etc., after shaving some 38 lbs total un-sprung weight.

RB is the only brake company offers a complete rotor package (front and rear) in two piece construction which can save you 10% over purchase them separately.

And if you love your S and prepare to keep it for long like most S owners, future disc replacement will be cheaper than most aftermarket one piece rotors.

Save weight, save money, save replacement headaches are some of the advantage other MB owners found from RB brakes - The most sensible alternative to OE brake replacement.

Parts are in stock for immediate shipment.

amstel78 04-03-2017 04:30 PM

Racing Brake FTW. Will plan on replacing all 4 corners with the W220 S65 RB kit when the time comes. Price is comparable to purchasing OE from the dealer. Rear rotors are floating as well.

BadaBingMan 04-04-2017 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by RacingBrake (Post 7103412)
The only and best OE replacement/upgrade for S63/S65 in the market.
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-R.../mb-irk-04.htm

Can you imagine how your S63/65 can improve in performance, handling, and save the wear in pad and tire etc., after shaving some 38 lbs total un-sprung weight.

RB is the only brake company offers a complete rotor package (front and rear) in two piece construction which can save you 10% over purchase them separately.

And if you love your S and prepare to keep it for long like most S owners, future disc replacement will be cheaper than most aftermarket one piece rotors.

Save weight, save money, save replacement headaches are some of the advantage other MB owners found from RB brakes - The most sensible alternative to OE brake replacement.

Parts are in stock for immediate shipment.

Any forum discounts? If so please pm me

eandytemp 07-10-2017 12:00 PM

Just curious as to what the outcome was with the Oriellys brake rotors.

sbainb 07-10-2017 01:48 PM

eandytemp,

I purchased the (rear) Bosch rotors from Amazon in the end and have them on the garage shelf awaiting installation. I checked all the critical measurements on the current rotors and may be 6-12 months away from *needing* to do a rear brake overhaul, but I pulled the trigger on the purchase just in case these things vanish from the market and leave me in the same hole i'm in on the fronts. Still browsing options on the front, nothing has surfaced below $650 so far. If this changes I'll be sure to post an update.

vee12 07-12-2017 04:31 PM

I have installed the Racing Brake front rotors on my W221 S65 and they are working perfectly so far. Quite a bit lighter than the rotors that came off the car.

kociboss 03-10-2018 06:15 PM

Anyone with fresh information about alternative front and rear discs for S63 W221 2007?

compaddict 03-10-2018 06:41 PM

Rockauto has Centric in stock. 700.00 each!

kociboss 03-10-2018 07:01 PM

Something from ebay or in Europe? 700 a piece front/rear? Can u post part num?

BadaBingMan 03-10-2018 10:09 PM

Hey racing brake. What's cost I'd the 63 kit

compaddict 03-10-2018 10:35 PM

Centric 121.35101
Front each
Vince

DRTYLNDY 03-12-2018 07:48 AM

Just saw this thread about front rotors. I did find mbwholesalepartsonline.com and they claim to sell the original front MB rotors for $708 each. Then I noticed they have an offer for 10% off with the code TENNOFFMAR. So that ends up being at about $640 each.
I just ordered a new coilpack from them this weekend so we will see how it all works out. Decided since I need to change my plugs to just be proactive and get a new coilpack. Had the other side just rebuilt.

RacingBrake 03-12-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by RacingBrake (Post 7103412)
The only and best OE replacement/upgrade for S63/S65 in the market.
http://www.racingbrake.com/RB-Iron-R.../mb-irk-04.htm

Can you imagine how your S63/65 can improve in performance, handling, and save the wear in pad and tire etc., after shaving some 38 lbs total un-sprung weight.

RB is the only brake company offers a complete rotor package (front and rear) in two piece construction which can save you 10% over purchase them separately.

And if you love your S and prepare to keep it for long like most S owners, future disc replacement will be cheaper than most aftermarket one piece rotors.

Save weight, save money, save replacement headaches are some of the advantage other MB owners found from RB brakes - The most sensible alternative to OE brake replacement.

Parts are in stock for immediate shipment.

Bump!

RacingBrake 03-12-2018 10:35 AM

Racing Brake Rotors after 113,556miles



Originally Posted by Jon2007E63P30 (Post 7387223)
Gents,
At 216.6K I can tell you the brake dust is less than stock but not as low as some focusing on that. Pretty much matches the rears now. No noticeable fade on spirited mountain driving. Very good brake feel. I wish I could report how it does on the track, but I will update,
Oh yes, no squeal and no problems in the cold. Where 25F is about as cold as they would get.

Best part is I kept my floating rotors for a fraction of the price now that I only change the iron disk!

Your feedback and comment touched those issues that concern MB owner's most on their brakes:
1. Low dust.
2. No squeak.
3. Lower replacement cost over the time (just replace the rings) than OE or 1pc.

Thanks to your true legendary testimonial which sets the new standard on Mercedes brake (OE or aftermarket).

atikovi 03-16-2018 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by RacingBrake (Post 7103412)
Can you imagine how your S63/65 can improve in performance, handling, and save the wear in pad and tire etc., after shaving some 38 lbs total un-sprung weight.

38 pounds off a 5,000+ pound car. HAHA.

jenz 03-18-2018 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by atikovi (Post 7406318)
38 pounds off a 5,000+ pound car. HAHA.

Unsprung weight is a big deal


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