S63 issues Mercedes needs to address
02-26-2017, 01:00 PM
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
2015 SL65, 2015 S63, 2019 Trackhawk, 2012 RR SC
S63 issues Mercedes needs to address
I purchased a CPO 2015 S63 and here are my 3 issues with the vehicle
1) The off the line acceleration is horrible for the vehicle. Even in Sport mode with ESP disabled the car hesitates (as if ESP is on) and then takes off. But once it gets going its a rocket. Very annoying for an AMG model and you should not have to power brake a vehicle north of 500hp to jump from a standing start. My SL55 granted is supercharger rather than turbocharged will lite up the rear tires if you disable ESP. The S63 feels as if the ESP is not truely disabled causing the hesitation.
2) No remote start feature from the factory or aftermarket. I know 2016+ models have the app and up 2013 models have an aftermarket fix. But what about us with 2014-15 models?
3) No valet mode which could limit the max. speed to under 20mph.
True story... when I purchased my S63, the dealer had to order the carbon fiber front facia because it was damaged. They ordered the part from Germany and made arrangements to have my car flatbed shipped back to have it installed 2 weeks later after the part comes in. Well the transport driver takes me car for a 40 mile joy ride and tried to deny it. I found out only because of the free 90 day mBrace app which sent me a text alert that the car was being driven (not flatbed towed) and going over 70mph and the odometer had 40 miles more than when the dealer finished servicing the car.
So to all members do not have anything to do with D & A Unlimited Transport Service at 72 Summer Street Blackstone MA. The owner Danny was the person who drives other peoples luxury cars instead of towing them and only admitted it when confronted with the text alert from mbrace.
1) The off the line acceleration is horrible for the vehicle. Even in Sport mode with ESP disabled the car hesitates (as if ESP is on) and then takes off. But once it gets going its a rocket. Very annoying for an AMG model and you should not have to power brake a vehicle north of 500hp to jump from a standing start. My SL55 granted is supercharger rather than turbocharged will lite up the rear tires if you disable ESP. The S63 feels as if the ESP is not truely disabled causing the hesitation.
2) No remote start feature from the factory or aftermarket. I know 2016+ models have the app and up 2013 models have an aftermarket fix. But what about us with 2014-15 models?
3) No valet mode which could limit the max. speed to under 20mph.
True story... when I purchased my S63, the dealer had to order the carbon fiber front facia because it was damaged. They ordered the part from Germany and made arrangements to have my car flatbed shipped back to have it installed 2 weeks later after the part comes in. Well the transport driver takes me car for a 40 mile joy ride and tried to deny it. I found out only because of the free 90 day mBrace app which sent me a text alert that the car was being driven (not flatbed towed) and going over 70mph and the odometer had 40 miles more than when the dealer finished servicing the car.
So to all members do not have anything to do with D & A Unlimited Transport Service at 72 Summer Street Blackstone MA. The owner Danny was the person who drives other peoples luxury cars instead of towing them and only admitted it when confronted with the text alert from mbrace.
The following users liked this post:
Stufearn (02-27-2017)
03-03-2017, 07:27 PM
#2
Junior Member
I purchased a CPO 2015 S63 and here are my 3 issues with the vehicle
1) The off the line acceleration is horrible for the vehicle. Even in Sport mode with ESP disabled the car hesitates (as if ESP is on) and then takes off. But once it gets going its a rocket. Very annoying for an AMG model and you should not have to power brake a vehicle north of 500hp to jump from a standing start. My SL55 granted is supercharger rather than turbocharged will lite up the rear tires if you disable ESP. The S63 feels as if the ESP is not truely disabled causing the hesitation.
2) No remote start feature from the factory or aftermarket. I know 2016+ models have the app and up 2013 models have an aftermarket fix. But what about us with 2014-15 models?
3) No valet mode which could limit the max. speed to under 20mph.
True story... when I purchased my S63, the dealer had to order the carbon fiber front facia because it was damaged. They ordered the part from Germany and made arrangements to have my car flatbed shipped back to have it installed 2 weeks later after the part comes in. Well the transport driver takes me car for a 40 mile joy ride and tried to deny it. I found out only because of the free 90 day mBrace app which sent me a text alert that the car was being driven (not flatbed towed) and going over 70mph and the odometer had 40 miles more than when the dealer finished servicing the car.
So to all members do not have anything to do with D & A Unlimited Transport Service at 72 Summer Street Blackstone MA. The owner Danny was the person who drives other peoples luxury cars instead of towing them and only admitted it when confronted with the text alert from mbrace.
1) The off the line acceleration is horrible for the vehicle. Even in Sport mode with ESP disabled the car hesitates (as if ESP is on) and then takes off. But once it gets going its a rocket. Very annoying for an AMG model and you should not have to power brake a vehicle north of 500hp to jump from a standing start. My SL55 granted is supercharger rather than turbocharged will lite up the rear tires if you disable ESP. The S63 feels as if the ESP is not truely disabled causing the hesitation.
2) No remote start feature from the factory or aftermarket. I know 2016+ models have the app and up 2013 models have an aftermarket fix. But what about us with 2014-15 models?
3) No valet mode which could limit the max. speed to under 20mph.
True story... when I purchased my S63, the dealer had to order the carbon fiber front facia because it was damaged. They ordered the part from Germany and made arrangements to have my car flatbed shipped back to have it installed 2 weeks later after the part comes in. Well the transport driver takes me car for a 40 mile joy ride and tried to deny it. I found out only because of the free 90 day mBrace app which sent me a text alert that the car was being driven (not flatbed towed) and going over 70mph and the odometer had 40 miles more than when the dealer finished servicing the car.
So to all members do not have anything to do with D & A Unlimited Transport Service at 72 Summer Street Blackstone MA. The owner Danny was the person who drives other peoples luxury cars instead of towing them and only admitted it when confronted with the text alert from mbrace.
03-03-2017, 08:54 PM
#3
Try a reset
TRANSMISSION RESET - if you have KEYLESS GO do not remove the Start button
* Press Start button twice, this sets it to key position 2
* Floor gas pedal for 10 seconds
* Press Start/Stop once. This turns it OFF
* Release gas pedal and wait two minutes
* Then start the engine and begin driving
TRANSMISSION RESET - if you have KEYLESS GO do not remove the Start button
* Press Start button twice, this sets it to key position 2
* Floor gas pedal for 10 seconds
* Press Start/Stop once. This turns it OFF
* Release gas pedal and wait two minutes
* Then start the engine and begin driving
03-03-2017, 09:43 PM
#4
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
2015 SL65, 2015 S63, 2019 Trackhawk, 2012 RR SC
I already tried the tranny reset and does not help with the initial hesitation from a dead start. It just changes the RPM's at which the tranny shifts gears keeping the car in higher torque curve.
03-04-2017, 08:45 AM
#5
Newbie
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
AMG S63
I have a 2014 and it's pretty much the same. A healthy lag at startup from a deadstop. Even a semi-aggressive press on the accelerator brings a lag before the turbo spins up and catches up.
03-04-2017, 01:00 PM
#6
Junior Member
Try a reset
TRANSMISSION RESET - if you have KEYLESS GO do not remove the Start button
* Press Start button twice, this sets it to key position 2
* Floor gas pedal for 10 seconds
* Press Start/Stop once. This turns it OFF
* Release gas pedal and wait two minutes
* Then start the engine and begin driving
TRANSMISSION RESET - if you have KEYLESS GO do not remove the Start button
* Press Start button twice, this sets it to key position 2
* Floor gas pedal for 10 seconds
* Press Start/Stop once. This turns it OFF
* Release gas pedal and wait two minutes
* Then start the engine and begin driving
03-04-2017, 07:10 PM
#7
Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 230
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
2012 SLS AMG
Not making an excuse for your car in any way, and not that you should have to do this, but could look into an aftermarket tune like RennTech if your dealership is friendly with a Tuner. My 2016 has zero hesitation from the line in any mode. Sport mode I have to ease into or it lurches off the line ready to run. Very manageable once you get used to it. My issue was the aggressive downshifts in sport coming to a stop. That has all but fixed itself with regular driving in sport mode so the ECU can learn my style. Hope that helps. Good luck finding a fix
Trending Topics
03-06-2017, 11:06 AM
#8
Former Vendor of MBWorld
I purchased a CPO 2015 S63 and here are my 3 issues with the vehicle
1) The off the line acceleration is horrible for the vehicle. Even in Sport mode with ESP disabled the car hesitates (as if ESP is on) and then takes off. But once it gets going its a rocket. Very annoying for an AMG model and you should not have to power brake a vehicle north of 500hp to jump from a standing start. My SL55 granted is supercharger rather than turbocharged will lite up the rear tires if you disable ESP. The S63 feels as if the ESP is not truely disabled causing the hesitation.
2) No remote start feature from the factory or aftermarket. I know 2016+ models have the app and up 2013 models have an aftermarket fix. But what about us with 2014-15 models?
3) No valet mode which could limit the max. speed to under 20mph.
True story... when I purchased my S63, the dealer had to order the carbon fiber front facia because it was damaged. They ordered the part from Germany and made arrangements to have my car flatbed shipped back to have it installed 2 weeks later after the part comes in. Well the transport driver takes me car for a 40 mile joy ride and tried to deny it. I found out only because of the free 90 day mBrace app which sent me a text alert that the car was being driven (not flatbed towed) and going over 70mph and the odometer had 40 miles more than when the dealer finished servicing the car.
So to all members do not have anything to do with D & A Unlimited Transport Service at 72 Summer Street Blackstone MA. The owner Danny was the person who drives other peoples luxury cars instead of towing them and only admitted it when confronted with the text alert from mbrace.
1) The off the line acceleration is horrible for the vehicle. Even in Sport mode with ESP disabled the car hesitates (as if ESP is on) and then takes off. But once it gets going its a rocket. Very annoying for an AMG model and you should not have to power brake a vehicle north of 500hp to jump from a standing start. My SL55 granted is supercharger rather than turbocharged will lite up the rear tires if you disable ESP. The S63 feels as if the ESP is not truely disabled causing the hesitation.
2) No remote start feature from the factory or aftermarket. I know 2016+ models have the app and up 2013 models have an aftermarket fix. But what about us with 2014-15 models?
3) No valet mode which could limit the max. speed to under 20mph.
True story... when I purchased my S63, the dealer had to order the carbon fiber front facia because it was damaged. They ordered the part from Germany and made arrangements to have my car flatbed shipped back to have it installed 2 weeks later after the part comes in. Well the transport driver takes me car for a 40 mile joy ride and tried to deny it. I found out only because of the free 90 day mBrace app which sent me a text alert that the car was being driven (not flatbed towed) and going over 70mph and the odometer had 40 miles more than when the dealer finished servicing the car.
So to all members do not have anything to do with D & A Unlimited Transport Service at 72 Summer Street Blackstone MA. The owner Danny was the person who drives other peoples luxury cars instead of towing them and only admitted it when confronted with the text alert from mbrace.
We had the complaints with the stock/factory 'off-the-line' acceleration a lot from S-Class customers.
We now offer a Transmission Software upgrade in addition to our ECU Upgrade for the S-Class models which dramatically improves the 0-60mph times and the the overall acceleration process.
Currently only available in-house. Will extend this service to our authorized dealers soon.
http://renntechmercedes.com/index.ph...upgrade-detail
03-15-2017, 12:19 PM
#9
MBWorld Fanatic!
Guys, all M157 engines have this problem, including us with the E63/CLS63.
The reason it lags off the line is because of the TCU torque limits, if the car did not reduce the power in the lower 1-2 gears, the MCT transmission would be kaput. Read about it here. Geting an ECU tune does NOT fix this problem as its related to the TCU, transmission control unit, not the ECU.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ver-stock.html
The reason it lags off the line is because of the TCU torque limits, if the car did not reduce the power in the lower 1-2 gears, the MCT transmission would be kaput. Read about it here. Geting an ECU tune does NOT fix this problem as its related to the TCU, transmission control unit, not the ECU.
https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ver-stock.html
Last edited by Amg63-; 03-15-2017 at 12:23 PM.
The following users liked this post:
Iflylo (11-11-2017)
03-15-2017, 07:57 PM
#10
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NYC
Posts: 67
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
2015 SL65, 2015 S63, 2019 Trackhawk, 2012 RR SC
I have not driven an amg model with launch control but I can't imagine there is hesitation from off the line when using it. So if the tranny take that abuse then there should be no reason for limiting torque so much that when the light turns green the car hesitates under 3/4 to full throttle. Again, once its gets going (tach gets above 1500) from a stop the car pulls hard
03-16-2017, 12:21 AM
#11
MBWorld Fanatic!
I have not driven an amg model with launch control but I can't imagine there is hesitation from off the line when using it. So if the tranny take that abuse then there should be no reason for limiting torque so much that when the light turns green the car hesitates under 3/4 to full throttle. Again, once its gets going (tach gets above 1500) from a stop the car pulls hard
What they need to do is once they figure it out, they need to reduce the limits just enough that the transmission will still stay reliable with that limit removed.
