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artinshak 06-15-2018 03:35 PM

S63 vs E63 S
 
Hi everyone,

I'm planning to join the AMG family and currently driving 2015 S550. I talked to a salesman about buying S63 AMG, 2018 however, he told me if having extra room is not an issue, is better to get the E63 S. The engine and transmission is the same and is almost as comfortable as the S63. How accurate is this comment? He also told me that there is more room for the discount on E63 S compared to the S63. Please help me make a right decision.
Thank you,

mrmotoguzzi00 06-15-2018 04:30 PM

do the test drove of both..................

Wolfman 06-15-2018 07:28 PM

The E63s is nowhere as comfortable as the S63. It is much firmer. Consider it stiff. S63 sport plus feels like E63s Comfort.

The E63s comes with standard or performance seats so the feel maybe different based on which setup you will test drive.
We have the E63s launch edition which has the performance seats. It’s fun to drive, it’s more agile than the S and definitely the faster car. While it has all the nappa leather trimmings, the S-class is more luxurious.

In terms of discounts, around here the S-class has bigger discounts than the E but this may vary by region.

artinshak 06-15-2018 08:41 PM

Thanks for your note Wolfman. I actually test drove the S63 and found it more comfortable than E63s. I think the sales man was pushing the E63 more because they had a bunch in the inventory and wanted to get a rid of them.

Wolfman 06-15-2018 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by artinshak (Post 7480134)
Thanks for your note Wolfman. I actually test drove the S63 and found it more comfortable than E63s. I think the sales man was pushing the E63 more because they had a bunch in the inventory and wanted to get a rid of them.

That makes sense. I am surprised that anyone has lots of E63’s on the lot as those have been in much tighter supply than the S63...
I am not sure if you are buying or leasing but be prepared for high depreciation and high lease rates. Nothing like the deeply discounted prices/rates of the 2015 S550...

artinshak 06-15-2018 09:54 PM

I'm buying. They offered me 27k discount on the 155K MSRP. Not sure if it’s a good deal or no!

Wolfman 06-15-2018 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by artinshak (Post 7480164)
I'm buying. They offered me 27k discount on the 155K MSRP. Not sure if it’s a good deal or no!

Over 17% is proper for a MY18 and similar to local discounts. I haven’t seen anything close on an E63. Did they give you numbers on an E?

artinshak 06-15-2018 10:33 PM

So the MSRP on the E63s is 125K. They offered me 18k discount with 2 years maintenance and one time free brake pad change. But I think the S63 is much more luxuries than E63s as you mentioned before.

stever500 06-15-2018 11:47 PM

You were offered a $27k discount on a 2018 S63? Wow, I only got about $10k off and people said that was a great deal at the time 3 months ago. I'd run back to that dealer and buy that S63! RUN SIR! ;). I LOVE my S63 and it's the 3rd one I've had. I had a 2012 before this one. What color combo were you looking at? Are you going to get it? This community makes ownership 10X better than not having this community.

artinshak 06-15-2018 11:57 PM

I’m getting the obsidian black on black interior with AMG night vision and black rims. Basically , everything is black! What color is yours?

stever500 06-16-2018 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by artinshak (Post 7480231)
I’m getting the obsidian black on black interior with AMG night vision and black rims. Basically , everything is black! What color is yours?

You will be so happy with it!!! You picked a great color choice. I took whatever they had on the lot, which was this one. I got to choose nothing, other than the finished product.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...727dbdfc1c.jpg
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artinshak 06-16-2018 12:21 AM

Yours is beautiful. I have seen lots of good review about the new S63. A 9-speed new transmission, turns this car into a smooth powerful machine. I will pick up mine on Sunday. Thanks again.

sam9187 06-16-2018 07:24 AM

That's a great discount. I got barely any discount on a custom ordered obsidian black with porcelain.

sakodik 06-16-2018 07:13 PM

S63 all the way. They both have roomy rear seats, but how often do you utilize it? I have the warmth and comfort + rear entertainment and never use it. Only two people in the car for 95% of the time. Besides the rear seats though... what would make you want one or the other? They both look great, but I am bias towards the s-class for its size. Bigger is better for me.

You guys have some great discount, I paid 189k including 10k mark up. Now theres that. Price, then options, then what you want in your car. I was pretty happy with my obs blk/blk nappa with carbon fiber. I just wish it came with the right rear foot rest for that "look at what this car has!" that I will never use.

sam9187 06-16-2018 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by sakodik
S63 all the way. They both have roomy rear seats, but how often do you utilize it? I have the warmth and comfort + rear entertainment and never use it. Only two people in the car for 95% of the time. Besides the rear seats though... what would make you want one or the other? They both look great, but I am bias towards the s-class for its size. Bigger is better for me.

You guys have some great discount, I paid 189k including 10k mark up. Now theres that. Price, then options, then what you want in your car. I was pretty happy with my obs blk/blk nappa with carbon fiber. I just wish it came with the right rear foot rest for that "look at what this car has!" that I will never use.

What year is your S63?

sakodik 06-16-2018 10:00 PM

2018 built in June of 2017.

artinshak 06-17-2018 12:52 AM

Can I see a picture of your S63 ?

absent 06-17-2018 09:19 AM

Where are you that you are able to get such discounts?
$20k+ is below invoice, here in Chicago dealers won't budge, they don't have cars available anyway.

hyperion667 06-17-2018 09:24 AM

Do you want a sedan or a boat? :)

sam9187 06-17-2018 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by sakodik
2018 built in June of 2017.

Thanks. I didn't pay an ADM but didn't get a significant discount.

v8plus4 06-17-2018 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by absent (Post 7481035)
Where are you that you are able to get such discounts?
$20k+ is below invoice, here in Chicago dealers won't budge, they don't have cars available anyway.

I'm curious about this as well. $18k discount on the E63 is WELL below invoice.

sakodik 06-17-2018 11:59 AM

Really happy it did not come with the alcantara/suede steering wheel.
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artinshak 06-17-2018 01:38 PM

This black S63 looks really nice. The one I'm getting also comes with the leather steering wheel. I don't like the suede steering wheel.

Wolfman 06-17-2018 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by sakodik (Post 7480789)
S63 all the way. They both have roomy rear seats, but how often do you utilize it? I have the warmth and comfort + rear entertainment and never use it. Only two people in the car for 95% of the time. Besides the rear seats though... what would make you want one or the other? They both look great, but I am bias towards the s-class for its size. Bigger is better for me.

You guys have some great discount, I paid 189k including 10k mark up. Now theres that. Price, then options, then what you want in your car. I was pretty happy with my obs blk/blk nappa with carbon fiber. I just wish it came with the right rear foot rest for that "look at what this car has!" that I will never use.

This is the first time we didn't get an S-Class. Nobody ever sits in the rear and my wife wanted a more nimble car. Since she drives a convertible most of the time, that makes sense and our E63s is primarily a bad weather/winter car only. I miss some of the luxuries of the S-Class but love some of the bits of our launch edition, primarily the black night magno paint (matte black with some blue metallic sparkles). It is much firmer than the S, but a better and quicker drivers car. Nice change for the time being :)

Wolfman 06-17-2018 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by artinshak (Post 7481179)
This black S63 looks really nice. The one I'm getting also comes with the leather steering wheel. I don't like the suede steering wheel.

For the OPs, you may want to share the dealers name. While our local discounts are pretty good, yours are some of the best I have seen anywhere ...


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