2018 S63 4matic sedan 0-60 4.7
I recently tested my 2018 S63 4matic sedan for a 0-60 time. The car has a track timer built in. I could not do better than 4.7 seconds. Can anyone help explain how to achieve the advertised 0-60 performance?
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Did you use race start? The W213 E63s has the same engine and transmission. The race start is the same for your W222 2018 S63 |
Thank you!!! Unfortunately, recently I was in a horrific accident and my brand new S63 was totalled. Fortunately, I was unhurt and a new S63 is on order. I will that when I take delivery and let you know! (Late May 2019)
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So glad you are ok after totalling your S63. How did the accident happen, hope it wasn’t because you were testing the top speed on that beast. |
I was on an interstate highway in upsate NY. 5pm rush hour traffic. It was already dark and raining hard. Thrafdfic came to a stopas people we looking to merge onto an off ramp. I was in the middle of three lanes and had come to a complete stop. Tractor trailer came up behind me and didnt see traffic had stopped and hit me square in the rear of the car going 60mhp. Pushed me into an SUV that was in front of me. My car was TOTALLED, but I walked away without a scratch or bruise!!
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OMG. Glad you are okay my friend. 2019 will be a better year for the new engine and transmission so MB has worked out the bugs on the new platform. |
I'm glad you are ok. Will you be getting a 2019 S63?
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Glad you are okay. Were you able to feel the safety systems kick in before impact? |
Thank you so much! I appreciate your kind words!
Just ordered a MY2019 S63 to replace. Went with the same options/congif as before - Porcelain/Black interior, flowing lines trim, etc. But I deleted the rear seat refrigerator. I never used it and it took up valuable trunk space. I did add heated windshield and heads-up display that weren't on my original version. I am pretty meticulous, and was worried about the porcelain seats. I was concerned they would get dirty and be a maintenance problem, but it was no worry at all. Fell in love with it so repeating on the new S63. |
Originally Posted by sam9187
(Post 7642814)
I'm glad you are ok. Will you be getting a 2019 S63?
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Originally Posted by Horseford
(Post 7643524)
Glad you are okay. Were you able to feel the safety systems kick in before impact? |
Originally Posted by S63AMG888
(Post 7587002)
Did you use race start? The W213 E63s has the same engine and transmission. The race start is the same for your W222 2018 S63 https://youtu.be/jRzEgedfGgo |
Originally Posted by CSpinoso
(Post 7649095)
Thank you so much! I appreciate your kind words!
Just ordered a MY2019 S63 to replace. Went with the same options/congif as before - Porcelain/Black interior, flowing lines trim, etc. But I deleted the rear seat refrigerator. I never used it and it took up valuable trunk space. I did add heated windshield and heads-up display that weren't on my original version. I am pretty meticulous, and was worried about the porcelain seats. I was concerned they would get dirty and be a maintenance problem, but it was no worry at all. Fell in love with it so repeating on the new S63. Good call on the rear refrigerator to the already small trunk space on the S63. I hope you opted for the carbon ceramic brakes( CCB ) as I heard nothing, but good things about it and you’ll have one of a kind S63 with it. Plan on going with CCB on my next AMG. Be well. |
Using race start is easy as stomping brake then the accelerator and releasing brake in any dynamic mode (c, s, s+) in the 2018s.
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Do you have race start as an option listed under sport+?
I have a coupe and the race start is an option I can choose. It's listed below sport + but it's not listed under the sedan. |
Not listed and I cannot choose that option like in the video. Just smash pedals and go.
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[QUOTE=CSpinoso;764189 Tractor trailer came up behind me and didnt see traffic had stopped and hit me square in the rear of the car going 60mhp. Pushed me into an SUV that was in front of me. My car was TOTALLED, but I walked away without a scratch or bruise!![/QUOTE]
I'm sorry, but that's fing amazing. Incredible. A testament to MB safety standards. Wow! Glad you were OK!!! |
=CSpinoso;764189 Tractor trailer came up behind me and didnt see traffic had stopped and hit me square in the rear of the car going 60mhp. Pushed me into an SUV that was in front of me. My car was TOTALLED, but I walked away without a scratch or bruise!! Glad you were OK!!! |
I just did the 0-60 test on stock conti's. I am getting getting 4.6s on the track command in sport+ with race start.
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Originally Posted by sakodik
(Post 7680047)
I just did the 0-60 test on stock conti's. I am getting getting 4.6s on the track command in sport+ with race start.
Contact MBusa and tell them it’s false advertising according to their website. |
First run, second run 2/12 about the same time so didn't bother to log it but it is in the history of the car. Figured this is better to show them (the dealer/mb) cause it is with the car's factory app so either its recording is broken or my car is broken haha. I think I can maybe pull a 4.4 with a longer road and better tires.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c74650eaba.jpg |
Originally Posted by sakodik
(Post 7680665)
First run, second run 2/12 about the same time so didn't bother to log it but it is in the history of the car. Figured this is better to show them (the dealer/mb) cause it is with the car's factory app so either its recording is broken or my car is broken haha. I think I can maybe pull a 4.4 with a longer road and better tires.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...c74650eaba.jpg |
Last night I did 3.29 seconds 0-60mph on winter tires and 28 degrees outside. I believe MB advertises 3.4 seconds 0-60 mph. I did use Race Start on my ‘19 S63. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bd89bf344.jpeg |
Originally Posted by MTrauman
(Post 7686500)
Last night I did 3.29 seconds 0-60mph on winter tires and 28 degrees outside. I believe MB advertises 3.4 seconds 0-60 mph. I did use Race Start on my ‘19 S63. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bd89bf344.jpeg |
MT, that is awesome. Good to know. MBusa told me to just bring it to dealer. I'll keep logging my results until I get a chance to bring it in.
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Originally Posted by S63AMG888
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Nice, it looks like you hit 60mph in 3.29 which is actually faster what Mercedes advertised. |
Originally Posted by MTrauman
(Post 7686500)
Last night I did 3.29 seconds 0-60mph on winter tires and 28 degrees outside. I believe MB advertises 3.4 seconds 0-60 mph. I did use Race Start on my ‘19 S63. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...bd89bf344.jpeg Is there a "Race Start" setting, or option - or do you just depress the brake, press the accelerator, then release the brake? I didn't see a "Race Start" option anywhere on my original 2019 S63 |
Race start as you stated, depress brake and accelerator and release brake. It can be used in any driving dynamic as long as the vehicle is up to temperature otherwise it will not activate.
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Originally Posted by CSpinoso
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I have ordered my new 2019 S63 to replace the car that I just had totalled. They told me I can expect delivery in April now - which is great, as they originally told me June. Is there a "Race Start" setting or option - or do you just press brake, then accelerator, then release brake?
Here you go: Enjoy. What color combo and options did you you end up getting? |
MBUSA response was to send to dealer to deal with any issue. This is the dealer's response after 2 weeks with my car: "The response from the AMG engineer was there are a lot of different factors that can be attributed in to getting these specific 0-60 times. Fuel used is generally 95 octane, outside temp and track temp, wheel spin, etc. These test basically are performed in excellent conditions on a closed course. At this time there is no other test or repairs that can be performed on your vehicle."\
What I don't get is how I was able to do the same time in the span of 3 months with changing variables, rain or shine. 560 4matic owners are going faster than my car :( |
Originally Posted by sakodik
(Post 7749548)
MBUSA response was to send to dealer to deal with any issue. This is the dealer's response after 2 weeks with my car: "The response from the AMG engineer was there are a lot of different factors that can be attributed in to getting these specific 0-60 times. Fuel used is generally 95 octane, outside temp and track temp, wheel spin, etc. These test basically are performed in excellent conditions on a closed course. At this time there is no other test or repairs that can be performed on your vehicle."\
What I don't get is how I was able to do the same time in the span of 3 months with changing variables, rain or shine. 560 4matic owners are going faster than my car :( |
Originally Posted by easmash
(Post 7783574)
You are not using race start. Compare your 0-30 mph to the guy who posted the 3.29. Thats where the diff is, your 30-60mph is identical to his. Also the tech is absolutely right, if the engine is hot you are gonna get a DRASTIC loss of power output. Toggle the amg displaying hp/tq on the cluster and compare it to engine temp 180 to 215 degrees and you will see about a 100hp loss. Tech is also right about good numbers in perfect conditions. At a track you are waiting in line with engine off with ice on the intake. This is how you get max results...if you're expecting your car to do a 3.4sec 0-60 24hrs/365days, forget about it.
There isn't really any room for error on the driver's part using race start. You point and shoot. This isn't 2015 RS where you had to make damn sure everything is on, buttons pressed, TC sports on, wheel straight, and confirm you want to use RS. This is the current RS where you stomp, bring the revs up, release when you want, and go (obviously, you'll want to point straight with the wheel). The service manager got a hold of a 19 E63. Its advertised at 3.3. He was able to get 3.5 and 3.7 on his back road after work. Yeah he didn't get 3.3 as advertised because of everything you said above, you need "near perfect condition". But he was only ~.4 slower, reasonable as he isn't a F1 AMG racer, nor did he do it on the track, his road isn't paved with amg fairy dust, etc etc. I expect the car to perform a little slower after the first or second run, just like my old heat soaked S55. This is different. This just sucks from the get go. Maybe my car is actually performing the 3.4 time but the AMG command is broken? They haven't explored that. |
Originally Posted by sakodik
(Post 7783785)
Race start was definitely used. I guarantee you that after months of 0-60, I would have learned to utilize race start. But achieving the SAME time over and over again over the course of months? I ran the car mildly warm and extra hot. I ran the car in the rain, in the 90+ degree weather the bay area had last week. I ran the car with 50 psi and 35 psi with hot tires. I ran the car with half tank, quarter tank. I also lost 2lbs by ****ting one morning and removed about 20lbs of gear, but I got the SAME time in all scenarios. I understand what the tech is saying. He isn't wrong, but those aren't excuses that I haven't covered and tested on my own. The car operated the same 4.6 time in 160 degree as it did in 222 degrees. If you advertise 3.4, I would expect you could get close to that number, not 1.2 second slower. Tenth of a second matters at these times and speed.
There isn't really any room for error on the driver's part using race start. You point and shoot. This isn't 2015 RS where you had to make damn sure everything is on, buttons pressed, TC sports on, wheel straight, and confirm you want to use RS. This is the current RS where you stomp, bring the revs up, release when you want, and go (obviously, you'll want to point straight with the wheel). The service manager got a hold of a 19 E63. Its advertised at 3.3. He was able to get 3.5 and 3.7 on his back road after work. Yeah he didn't get 3.3 as advertised because of everything you said above, you need "near perfect condition". But he was only ~.4 slower, reasonable as he isn't a F1 AMG racer, nor did he do it on the track, his road isn't paved with amg fairy dust, etc etc. I expect the car to perform a little slower after the first or second run, just like my old heat soaked S55. This is different. This just sucks from the get go. Maybe my car is actually performing the 3.4 time but the AMG command is broken? They haven't explored that. |
So you're saying I have a broken slow car with race start. I already know that lol.
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Originally Posted by sakodik
(Post 7783810)
So you're saying I have a broken slow car with race start. I already know that lol.
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Take the car to a dyno and have them ck power and runs then you will have hard data as to exactly where the problem lies. You will also then remove yourself as a possible error variable.
3.29 to 60 that is Fng insane in a car that big. Look at 0-60 for most performance cars that is a crazy number for a big sedan!!!!! |
Yeah, I haven't done that yet but planned to as part of my documentation and providing evidence to AMG manager, per their request.
Seriously, 3.29 in this boat! Super jealous especially because we have the same car! By no means is 4.6 slow but god damnit for not being similar to other S63 owners. |
You have an issue because I have you beat with a 15 s550 with a 91 octane Renntech tune. Try an iPhone app for reference. I will say I have to get into the revs and launch the car and it will spin the tires on 275's. No launch control on the s550 just my feet.
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Roger that but since there is no codes or cel, dealers cannot do anything other than speculate and throw theories around. From mbusa website regarding a S560 4matic.
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I have a 15 and that i why we didnt get the s63 although from what I hear the early ones were rougher all around. I hated it and would have gotten the E63 if my ego wasnt in the way.
I wonder if you being in CA and only using 91 vs the rest of the world getting 93-94? octane is making a difference. The reason I bring it up is when I got my tune the 93 vs the 91 is almost half the hp/tq. The car is pulling a lot of power out. When I had my G550 I also had Renntech do it and it was not for 91. I would swear sometimes the thing was slower. One day before a trip to Palm Springs I threw in some octane boost. The truck came alive and the hesitation I had was gone and it was just a blast. If I didnt sell the truck they were going to refresh for me. There has to be a difference when they test cars with 91 vs 93 and like you said they are controlling every variable to get that number for publications. It seams like a drastic difference but? |
2019 S560 Beats The 2019 S63
As the title states, I would be piss if the S560 beats the S63 in the same model year and cost $60k less.
https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/s-class Thats all I want to say. |
OP the urine available for gasoline in Kalifornia is why the car is 'slow.'
Gasoline without ethanol of 95-98 octane will really wake it up. Try it. |
Owners, post up your time if you have a chance to do a 0-60 run!
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Finally able to achieve something better than 4.61. Dealer stated race start was not working properly and would cut out right before launching the car. They got better times once they were able to figure that out. The 3.6 time is at 4k RPM. I think the default is 3500. The time was confirmed to be correct due to heat soaking the engine with prior runs and an outside temp in the high 90s. I think better time can be achieved now with better temps and maybe even adding higher octane.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...47beaad707.jpg |
Great that you finally have this working. Even though I had a 3.29 seconds in 0-60mph my most recent was 3.59 seconds so you are golden atleast from what I would expect your car to do.
Originally Posted by sakodik
(Post 7817818)
Finally able to achieve something better than 4.61. Dealer stated race start was not working properly and would cut out right before launching the car. They got better times once they were able to figure that out. The 3.6 time is at 4k RPM. I think the default is 3500. The time was confirmed to be correct due to heat soaking the engine with prior runs and an outside temp in the high 90s. I think better time can be achieved now with better temps and maybe even adding higher octane.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...47beaad707.jpg |
That poor technician who had to do all those 0-60 hits. Could you imagine getting that job, just keep beating on it till you get the number!
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I am having the exact issue your having, tried it many times and cannot get better than 4.6 sec. My car is a 18 S63 4matic with less than 5000 km, i tried enabling and accelerating with race mode but cannot get better than 4.6 sec. I live in Cambodia by the way, could you tell me how you had it fixed? thanks
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Originally Posted by Khemerak
(Post 7819494)
I am having the exact issue your having, tried it many times and cannot get better than 4.6 sec. My car is a 18 S63 4matic with less than 5000 km, i tried enabling and accelerating with race mode but cannot get better than 4.6 sec. I live in Cambodia by the way, could you tell me how you had it fixed? thanks
It's a given that cars in Commiefornia have lower performance vs cars in more "normal" states, simply because of poor octane rating. What's the situation with gasoline in Cambodia? Do you have access to race gasoline at all? If not, try the octane booster to improve the rating. |
2019 S63 sedan
0-60 3.25 seconds 1/4 mile 11.27 seconds @122.9 mph 94 octane. Almost identical numbers I got on a 2018 E63 |
Originally Posted by Diesel
(Post 7821279)
2019 S63 sedan
0-60 3.25 seconds 1/4 mile 11.27 seconds @122.9 mph 94 octane. Almost identical numbers I got on a 2018 E63 If it's stock then even more impressive. |
yes, totally stock :)
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Originally Posted by absent
(Post 7819975)
As others already pointed out, gas quality has a lot to do with the performance of these cars.
It's a given that cars in Commiefornia have lower performance vs cars in more "normal" states, simply because of poor octane rating. What's the situation with gasoline in Cambodia? Do you have access to race gasoline at all? If not, try the octane booster to improve the rating. tried both octane booster and change of fuel to 98 and the car can not get lower than 4.5 sec 😫 so sad. Could anybody give me some suggestion to fix it? I love the car but this is bothering me lol |
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Please help check my car 0-60, I can never get it under 4.5 sec, it seems the wheel spin too much and slip
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Originally Posted by Khemerak
(Post 8051769)
Please help check my car 0-60, I can never get it under 4.5 sec, it seems the wheel spin too much and slip
NOTE: Since the dealer visit, I am unable to do race start in anything but S+ |
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