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Today, 09:26 AM
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Posted By threeMBs

Based on what? Did you even look under the hood?

Based on what? Did you even look under the hood?
02-06-2019, 11:01 PM
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Views: 856
Posted By threeMBs

Thanks.

Thanks.
02-06-2019, 08:10 PM
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Views: 856
Posted By threeMBs

nycebo, do you know the brand (or part number) of...

nycebo, do you know the brand (or part number) of the 10mm spacers? Was it like image #1 below, which is "standard" hub and wheel centric spacers or like image #2 below, which has a tall cylinder...
02-06-2019, 12:46 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 217
Posted By threeMBs

If you're looking at C218 (2012-2017) CLS, then...

If you're looking at C218 (2012-2017) CLS, then 4.7L (or actually 4.6L) is CLS550 and 5.5L is CLS63AMG.
02-06-2019, 09:50 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,586
Posted By threeMBs

Well said. Hopefully we've put this topic to bed.

Well said. Hopefully we've put this topic to bed.
02-05-2019, 11:34 AM
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Views: 2,586
Posted By threeMBs

Well to be complete, there was a W212 diesel,...

Well to be complete, there was a W212 diesel, E250, variant for which there's (yet) no W213 successor (in the US).
02-04-2019, 05:44 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,586
Posted By threeMBs

Actually this is not correct. There was 2015-16...

Actually this is not correct. There was 2015-16 W212 E400 which is a "competitor" to W213 2017-18 E400, as W212 2012-14 E550 (2010-11 just no the same V8) is to W213 2019 E450 (...yes it is, as per...
02-04-2019, 03:12 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 482
Posted By threeMBs

For those wishing to perform calculation...

For those wishing to perform calculation themselves, the formula is:

(((section width * aspect ration) / 2540) * 2) + wheel's diameter

for example 255/35-19 tire's diameter is

(((255 * 35) /...
02-04-2019, 11:06 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 482
Posted By threeMBs

+1

+1
02-03-2019, 11:30 AM
Replies: 16
Views: 482
Posted By threeMBs

Yes, 0.1% is basically identical diameters. I...

Yes, 0.1% is basically identical diameters. I used 255/35-19 front with 285/30-19 rear (on former '14 E550), identical to E63s factory setup. The difference is 1% (or 0.3") which is what MB's...
02-01-2019, 10:53 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,586
Posted By threeMBs

No apologies required. The discussion however is...

No apologies required. The discussion however is more appropriate in W212 forum in my opinion, as W213 owners here have already moved on.
02-01-2019, 09:44 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,586
Posted By threeMBs

What is the point of this tread? For a relatively...

What is the point of this tread? For a relatively recent luxury (not sport, hence "smooth", a.k.a. S class like, relatively vague steering) W212 owner to come to W213 forum and praise W212 with...
01-29-2019, 06:49 PM
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Views: 1,718
Posted By threeMBs

How did that happen?

How did that happen?
01-28-2019, 07:17 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 2,586
Posted By threeMBs

IMHO one can make a comparison based on ownership...

IMHO one can make a comparison based on ownership better than just by having it as a loaner. I had a number of E300 loaners in 2017 and 2018. Each time I was in one, I though it would be a great car...
01-28-2019, 12:33 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 594
Posted By threeMBs

Absolutely not, as long as both front and rear...

Absolutely not, as long as both front and rear are in sync. (Speedo error is only relevant if one is on a legal speeding border line and 2 m/h is a decider in getting a speeding ticket or not.)...
01-27-2019, 09:56 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 594
Posted By threeMBs

235/45-19 & 265/40-19 was a hypothetical rather...

235/45-19 & 265/40-19 was a hypothetical rather than practical exercise since do not think anyone actually makes them as a set.

More importantly for winter (I missed "winter") you want a square...
01-27-2019, 03:36 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 594
Posted By threeMBs

There is a big (actually huge) typo here....

There is a big (actually huge) typo here. (Probably meant 255/35-18.)

OP, you can easy run taller tires, maybe not as tall as you want, but you'll have zero issues with 255/40-19 with 285/35-19...
01-23-2019, 08:27 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Portable compressor is a must in any car (very...

Portable compressor is a must in any car (very helpful with a slow leak, run flat or conventional tire), however it is useless if there's a total failure (where only the spare will do). As far as how...
Forum: W213 AMG
01-23-2019, 04:38 PM
Replies: 253
Views: 27,004
Posted By threeMBs

Tire Rack has Flow Ones in 20x9 et35. 20s will...

Tire Rack has Flow Ones in 20x9 et35. 20s will obviously clear and if lower offset is still needed then spacers will be required. They also have Sport Editions in 20x9.5 with front offset of et38....
Forum: W213 AMG
01-23-2019, 02:00 PM
Replies: 253
Views: 27,004
Posted By threeMBs

With 265/40 tire should be 19x9..

With 265/40 tire should be 19x9..
01-22-2019, 09:49 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 910
Posted By threeMBs

Not exactly answering OP's question, I moved from...

Not exactly answering OP's question, I moved from C218 CLS550 to W213 E450. I picked W213 E over C257 CLS for one and one reason only - removal of C218's unique rear seating arrangement in C257. I...
01-21-2019, 04:13 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 544
Posted By threeMBs

Most of 245/40-19 tires are 26.7" and is just...

Most of 245/40-19 tires are 26.7" and is just under 26.8" of 245/35-20. There are some (one or two) 26.6" (there's a slight variation by manufacturers) 245/40-19 tires which may just "make" it. Any...
01-20-2019, 10:26 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

Just the right hight and spaced out just right....

Just the right hight and spaced out just right. Lowering always allows for lower offsets without poke that would otherwise be possible. Perfectly done.
01-20-2019, 09:44 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

Looks very good. Lowered and with spacers?

Looks very good. Lowered and with spacers?
01-19-2019, 04:06 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 544
Posted By threeMBs

Absolutely not. 255/35-20 won't fit any W212,...

Absolutely not. 255/35-20 won't fit any W212, especially steel (non-airmatic). 245/35-20 clears only airmatic, it won't clear steel without some "work" on that perch. The tallest tire clearing steel...
01-19-2019, 01:05 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

9" is better (it is stated 9.5" in the original...

9" is better (it is stated 9.5" in the original post), ideal flush offset range is right around et40 +/- 3mm. Rear 10.5" IMHO is too wide, 10" is better with et48 +/- 3mm.
01-19-2019, 10:40 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

Offsets are the key. Hopefully you won't be...

Offsets are the key. Hopefully you won't be unpleasantly surprised. (Just FYI, in order to be flush, front 9.5" needs offset of around low 40s with 255 tire and 5mm more with 265 tire. With such...
01-19-2019, 09:50 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 183
Posted By threeMBs

These wheels will NOT work, period. There's...

These wheels will NOT work, period. There's nothing that can be done to make them fit. Offsets are 5mm front and massive 12mm rear lower than most aggressive possible. Wheels will poke a lot...
01-19-2019, 09:34 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

What offsets? You're looking at some measurable...

What offsets? You're looking at some measurable poke especially upfront.
01-17-2019, 08:38 PM
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Views: 269
Posted By threeMBs

Yes you can. For front you'll need 245/40-19...

Yes you can. For front you'll need 245/40-19 (255/40-19 most likely won't fit).
Forum: W213 AMG
01-17-2019, 08:33 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 665
Posted By threeMBs

For example 295/30-20, it is 27x27x12 and 29lbs....

For example 295/30-20, it is 27x27x12 and 29lbs. However, it is so called "irregular" package exactly because it is not in a box. There is a surcharge because of that for UPS/FedEx plus additional...
01-17-2019, 01:48 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,779
Posted By threeMBs

Its a brand new for 2019 shade of white called...

Its a brand new for 2019 shade of white called "Iridium Silver"...sorry nothing personal just having some fun.
Forum: W213 AMG
01-17-2019, 01:37 PM
Replies: 60
Views: 3,947
Posted By threeMBs

Once you are in a $120-130K range, what is...

Once you are in a $120-130K range, what is "extra" $3-4K, you have/had a Ferrari right? Use their bank to get your 6% off or use your bank and still get 3% off. Either way you're getting great car....
01-17-2019, 12:43 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

I would take it with a huge grain of salt. I...

I would take it with a huge grain of salt. I suppose it is possible with a slow leak from a small diameter nail/screw in the tread, but what if there is a severe (pothole or similar caused) damage to...
Forum: W213 AMG
01-17-2019, 12:34 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 665
Posted By threeMBs

BS...TireRack ships for free regardless if it...

BS...TireRack ships for free regardless if it goes to customer's home or to the installer of customer's choice. 295/30-20 tire will be at least $60 each to ship from Chicago say to San Diego or...
Forum: W213 AMG
01-17-2019, 12:00 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 665
Posted By threeMBs

If you do not mind, please share the shipping...

If you do not mind, please share the shipping service you're planning to use to get $80 shipped...I just shipped one donut tire (without a wheel) less than 1/2 weight of one of the above tires,...
01-16-2019, 03:13 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Correct. No damage to 4matic car. The difference...

Correct. No damage to 4matic car. The difference between new tire (typically 10/32) and legally worn tire (2/32) is only about 6mm. That what the front to rear tolerance for MB's 4matics is - from...
01-16-2019, 02:32 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Just weighted my W212 E550 OEM spare wheel with...

Just weighted my W212 E550 OEM spare wheel with mounted 135/80-18...
01-16-2019, 02:14 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Good point, but not always true for MB's 4matic....

Good point, but not always true for MB's 4matic. Several 4matic models are offered with staggered wheels/tires (i.e. W213 E63 - 265/35-20 front, 27.3" diameter and 295/30-20 rear, 27" diameter)....
01-16-2019, 01:25 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Compact spare wheel with tire for W212/C218 (and...

Compact spare wheel with tire for W212/C218 (and for W213, if they made one available for the US) is under 25 lbs. RFT always weight more than their non-runflat peers. I think its the combination of...
01-16-2019, 01:12 PM
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Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Obviously it has correct 5x112 PCD, 66.56 CB and...

Obviously it has correct 5x112 PCD, 66.56 CB and of course it clears the brakes (it clears E450, so it will E300).

As far as effect of using compact spare on 4matic. Your signature lists ML350,...
01-16-2019, 10:26 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

See above in bold. An other possibility (I...

See above in bold.

An other possibility (I have done it myself many times over - had full size spare in wheelwell of E550 and CLS550) is to purchase the cheapest 18" that fits E450, currently $118...
01-16-2019, 09:42 AM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Those with real possibility of getting stuck in...

Those with real possibility of getting stuck in the middle of nowhere IMHO should really consider giving up part of the trunk space for a full size spare (since donut has very limited capabilities)....
01-15-2019, 11:05 PM
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Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

They will put on your spare if you have one,...

They will put on your spare if you have one, otherwise they will tow.
01-15-2019, 08:24 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

Check eBay. There are several listings. Also...

Check eBay. There are several listings. Also online MB parts dealers may carry it under A2124000202 (must be 18" and fitted to E550 TT and CLS550, those only for E350/250, E/CLS400 will not fit E450...
01-15-2019, 07:33 PM
Replies: 53
Views: 3,049
Posted By threeMBs

OP: 1. No wheel/tire (donut or not) will fit...

OP:

1. No wheel/tire (donut or not) will fit in area under floor.

2. I took a spare from my former C218 '14 CLS550 (same spare was used in my former W212 '14 E550 as well), MB P/N A 2124013302...
Forum: ML63 AMG W166
01-13-2019, 04:43 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 304
Posted By threeMBs

TireRack has a number of 19x9 and 19x8.5 wheels,...

TireRack has a number of 19x9 and 19x8.5 wheels, in low offsets (mid 20s to about 30), that they show fit W166 ML63.
Never seen them being wrong, if anything, found them on conservative side. Lack...
01-06-2019, 02:22 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 586
Posted By threeMBs

Check the Tire Rack (winter tire/wheel package...

Check the Tire Rack (winter tire/wheel package section). There are a number of choices in 18" including by Rial (one of Mb's OEM wheels suppliers), I.E. Rial M10 (looks OEM, uses OEM bolts) in...
12-29-2018, 03:33 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 663
Posted By threeMBs

I always use trickle charger on every car if I...

I always use trickle charger on every car if I know car will not be driven for at least a day. (I also use stabil for the last 10 years, but its a totally different subject). Some laugh, but I never...
12-27-2018, 09:16 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,718
Posted By threeMBs

Judge by your self: I have '15 SL550 since new...

Judge by your self: I have '15 SL550 since new and test drove '15 SL400 to make sure there was enough difference to warrant $20K price difference (there was for me). I also had C207 2010 "E550 coupe"...
Forum: ML63 AMG W166
12-26-2018, 08:09 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 304
Posted By threeMBs

Does anyone run 19x10 on W166 ML63?

For winter, off road or for any other reason. If someone does run 19x10 (specifically 19x10, since I know some 19x9 do fit) what offset do you use to clear front calipers?
12-26-2018, 01:26 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,718
Posted By threeMBs

Thanks for your comments, but I stand by what I...

Thanks for your comments, but I stand by what I wrote. Each is entitled to own opinion, it is the beauty of democracy.
12-25-2018, 10:19 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 1,718
Posted By threeMBs

CLK550 (assuming a coupe) is measurably lighter...

CLK550 (assuming a coupe) is measurably lighter than SL550 so might feel on par in city driving without pushing SL550. Where SL550 will blow CLK550 away is on freeway driving from 60 to 80 and...
12-23-2018, 08:48 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 1,111
Posted By threeMBs

Use CTEK (or MB branded) trickle charger -...

Use CTEK (or MB branded) trickle charger - problem solved. I use one for every car in the garage and always leave them unlocked.
Forum: W213 AMG
12-21-2018, 08:06 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 544
Posted By threeMBs

Thanks. No need for winter setup where I live....

Thanks. No need for winter setup where I live. Was looking at 20x8.5 and 20x9.5 available with et48 (closeout at only $360 a set) or with et38 (closeout at only $440 a set). These wheels are...
Forum: W213 AMG
12-21-2018, 07:01 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 544
Posted By threeMBs

Thanks. That's what I thought based on tires'...

Thanks. That's what I thought based on tires' profile, but got confused by larger than "normal" appearance on these wheels in 19".

TireRack has incredible closeout pricing for ST7s in 20" - at...
Forum: W213 AMG
12-21-2018, 03:46 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 544
Posted By threeMBs

The Sport Editions on your car, are they 20s or...

The Sport Editions on your car, are they 20s or 19s?
12-20-2018, 10:30 AM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,088
Posted By threeMBs

It depends what they need to do to a car to...

It depends what they need to do to a car to certify it. Typical certification is about $2K. I doubt they spent $5K to certify your former S550. In my case, they gave me $30.5K for my loaded in...
12-19-2018, 10:50 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,088
Posted By threeMBs

For a full disclosure it is prudent to mention...

For a full disclosure it is prudent to mention that such deep discount is probably unlikely on a straight purchase (without a quality trade-in). The fact that it took place on the last day of a month...
12-19-2018, 02:25 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,088
Posted By threeMBs

MSRP price difference between E53 and similarly...

MSRP price difference between E53 and similarly equipped E450 is about $7K. When I speced E53 with about the same options as my recently (thanks to "2012 merc amg":), and just like him I was also...
Forum: W213 AMG
12-11-2018, 07:46 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 3,820
Posted By threeMBs

Agree on better brakes and much better handling...

Agree on better brakes and much better handling (latter, at a significant ride expense vs. E450). However, am confused on "looks". There's hardly any meaningful visual difference vs. E450, other than...
12-10-2018, 01:37 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 310
Posted By threeMBs

265/35 on 9" wheel is not a problem, but 305/30...

265/35 on 9" wheel is not a problem, but 305/30 on 9.5" wheel? This must be the world's first such install, "normal" minimum width for 305/30 is 10.5".
12-10-2018, 01:25 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 432
Posted By threeMBs

This is custom windshield sunshade for W213 of...

This is custom windshield sunshade for W213 of superior quality:

https://www.covercraft.com/us/en/search/?q=UV11474SV

Covercraft and covering have a number of custom car covers for W213 from...
12-09-2018, 01:08 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,020
Posted By threeMBs

Second that. There's no lag in S and in S+ its at...

Second that. There's no lag in S and in S+ its at least as good (actually even more responsive) as '14 E550 TTV8 I came from.
12-07-2018, 07:38 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 396
Posted By threeMBs

Yes I do (in each car) as well as full size spare...

Yes I do (in each car) as well as full size spare in the trunk (do not care about trunk space).

I have several MBs, each with several wheel sets, hence the question. A more serious response...
12-07-2018, 09:19 AM
Replies: 8
Views: 396
Posted By threeMBs

Page 405 of the 2019 E sedan's manual clearly...

Page 405 of the 2019 E sedan's manual clearly states 111 lb-ft. I know that about 110 lb-ft applies to stock wheels because of the hardware as explained in my original post. Question is for...
Forum: ML63 AMG W166
12-06-2018, 09:48 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 288
Posted By threeMBs

What is this canister under the spare in the trunk?

Does anyone know what this is (see attached pics)? Its located in the trunk and specifically under a cover which in turn is under the spare tire. Can be seen only when spare tire is removed....
12-06-2018, 08:39 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 396
Posted By threeMBs

W213 aftermarket wheels and bolts torque

What are people with aftermarket wheels torque their wheel bolts to? Manual states 111lb-ft, I assume because with W213 MB switched to 45mm bolts like for ML/GL/GLE/GLC/S/etc all of which were to be...
12-04-2018, 06:31 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 481
Posted By threeMBs

Those tires would work fine on W212, but for W213...

Those tires would work fine on W212, but for W213 you need more diameter tires (FYI - OEM specs option on E43 is 245/35 & 275/30). 245/35-20 front and 275/30- 20 rear would be best for E300....
11-30-2018, 11:45 AM
Replies: 5
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

Thanks for info. I know them very well.

Thanks for info. I know them very well.
11-29-2018, 07:26 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 668
Posted By threeMBs

Wow, 12+% off on '19 E450? MB of Sarasota or...

Wow, 12+% off on '19 E450? MB of Sarasota or elsewhere?
11-19-2018, 11:06 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 539
Posted By threeMBs

Front: 255/35-19 on 19x9 et40 (or 19x8.5 et38). ...

Front: 255/35-19 on 19x9 et40 (or 19x8.5 et38).
Rear: 285/30-19 on 19x10 et45 (or 19x9.5 et43).
11-17-2018, 07:19 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 238
Posted By threeMBs

Yes you can and no it will not rub with OEM...

Yes you can and no it will not rub with OEM wheels and tires. However, once you switch (per your plan) to much higher sidewall/diameter tires, you most likely will rub.
11-07-2018, 11:07 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 556
Posted By threeMBs

Not sure what you mean. Also keep in mind...

Not sure what you mean.

Also keep in mind that Pirellis are one of the narrowest section width tires so appearance is stretched.
11-07-2018, 08:51 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 556
Posted By threeMBs

In the US (base on the pic, you are not) and I...

In the US (base on the pic, you are not) and I assume should be elsewhere in the world, W218 E43 when equipped with run flats 20" wheels/tires, comes with 245/35-20 on 20x8 front and 275/30-20 on...
11-06-2018, 08:15 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 556
Posted By threeMBs

Can not put wider tires on W213 non-E63 wheels -...

Can not put wider tires on W213 non-E63 wheels - W213 wheels (except E63/E63S) are only 8" wide front and 9" wide rear. So the widest you can go is the W213 E43's stock 245/275.

FYI: H&R 15mm rear...
11-05-2018, 10:35 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 556
Posted By threeMBs

I just did: he needs exactly 15mm spacers in the...

I just did: he needs exactly 15mm spacers in the rear to match the fronts, so that both front (without spacers) and rear (with 15mm spacers) will stick out the same 10mm vs. CLS' stock.
11-05-2018, 08:48 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 556
Posted By threeMBs

Tires (if OEM) should be run flats, meaning...

Tires (if OEM) should be run flats, meaning sidewalls are harder than conventional tires. In addition sidewall will be a bit shorter 245/35-20 and 275/30-20 vs. OEM 19" 255/35-19 and 285/30-19,...
11-01-2018, 07:19 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 353
Posted By threeMBs

Any time you go wider (to a point) handling...

Any time you go wider (to a point) handling improves (in addition to obvious - the look). Not day and night difference, but marginally its there. Tires are of course the most important part of the...
11-01-2018, 12:34 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 353
Posted By threeMBs

These are 15mm front (results in et19.5) and...

These are 15mm front (results in et19.5) and 25mm(results in et23 - a bit too aggressive) rear. I then switched to 20mm (for offset et28) rear.


Used H&R spacers: front 15mm DR 30556659 (front...
10-31-2018, 06:42 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 353
Posted By threeMBs

With stock wheels, I used 15mm front and 20mm...

With stock wheels, I used 15mm front and 20mm rear (25mm rear is fine too for a bit more aggressive look).
10-30-2018, 08:31 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 378
Posted By threeMBs

Unfortunately, most shops would not use torque...

Unfortunately, most shops would not use torque wrench, just the gun. Often, even after MB service, lug bolts are either under or over torqued. IMHO, a torque wrench is a must. It will almost pay for...
10-30-2018, 08:04 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 378
Posted By threeMBs

1. Go to any independent tire place for...

1. Go to any independent tire place for installation if you can not do it yourself. Chain stores often will not install underload tires due to liability. Dealer will not either.

2. Actually 97 XL...
10-30-2018, 04:23 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 378
Posted By threeMBs

Fronts will definitely fit 350. Will be...

Fronts will definitely fit 350.

Will be close for 550TT, so may or may not fit due to 550's huge front caliper, all depends on design of wheels' inner spokes as related to caliper.
10-30-2018, 03:22 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 378
Posted By threeMBs

These are OEM MB wheels. Mercedes does not...

These are OEM MB wheels. Mercedes does not manufacture its wheels. Germany's Ronal is one of the main Mercedes OEM wheel manufacturers. (Cromodora and OZ are the other two main ones).

Wheels and...
09-17-2018, 11:02 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 589
Posted By threeMBs

You are OK with leaving $120K+ S560 to the...

You are OK with leaving $120K+ S560 to the elements, but not a 2013 SL550 worth only a third (or so) of that?
09-03-2018, 01:43 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 550
Posted By threeMBs

Regarding tires. Three options from smoothest to...

Regarding tires. Three options from smoothest to less smooth (may require going from run flats to conventional tires), all will require (significant) handling sacrifices for (much) smoother ride:
...
07-12-2018, 06:57 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 462
Posted By threeMBs

Are you serious about it? The original tires...

Are you serious about it? The original tires (245/40-18) are 25.7" diameter while 235/45-18 are 26.3" to 26.4" (depending on tire manufacturer). He's gaining over 6/10" in diameter or 3/10" per...
07-11-2018, 10:15 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,060
Posted By threeMBs

There were no SL400s in '13/'14, only SL550s....

There were no SL400s in '13/'14, only SL550s. SL400s were offered starting '15. You should be able to find '15 SL400s under $50K. Everything in SL400, including and especially the ride, is far better...
07-11-2018, 01:10 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 462
Posted By threeMBs

You can still use 18" wheels with 235/45-18 tires...

You can still use 18" wheels with 235/45-18 tires which will fit and will satisfy your requirements.
07-11-2018, 12:07 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 462
Posted By threeMBs

The difference in diameter is almost 1" (or...

The difference in diameter is almost 1" (or 25mm), not 5mm (25.7" vs. 26.7"). And yes, it will rub on non-airmatic W212 (like E250).
06-22-2018, 01:50 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 482
Posted By threeMBs

Konigstiger, do you by chance have installation...

Konigstiger, do you by chance have installation instructions?
06-19-2018, 07:59 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 446
Posted By threeMBs

Yes on spacers. Above bolts are R13, and...

Yes on spacers.

Above bolts are R13, and while will be just fine, are more suitable for Audi OEM wheels rather than Mercedes OEM wheels.Try finding R14 a.k.a. Mercedes Ball Seat. R14 bolts are...
06-19-2018, 11:29 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 446
Posted By threeMBs

DRA spacers are fine for the rear. For front,...

DRA spacers are fine for the rear. For front, 15mm DR 3055665 won't fit front's hub due to dust cap. Car requires 15mm DR 30556659 (so called "front" only spacer) instead.
06-18-2018, 05:59 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 446
Posted By threeMBs

Those bolts will not work. W212 needs 14x1.5,...

Those bolts will not work. W212 needs 14x1.5, these are 12x1.5.
06-14-2018, 06:25 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 368
Posted By threeMBs

Why would anyone? IMHO there's no market for it -...

Why would anyone? IMHO there's no market for it - it takes much less time to open/close the roof than to put on/remove any kind of tonneau cover.
06-04-2018, 03:04 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,051
Posted By threeMBs

1. Modern Audi's CB is 66.5mm, while MB's is...

1. Modern Audi's CB is 66.5mm, while MB's is 66.56mm. Yes even half of mm could be a problem (fitting MB wheel on Audi hub is not a problem).

2. MB center caps are 75mm (3"), Audi's are much...
06-04-2018, 01:06 PM
Replies: 25
Views: 1,705
Posted By threeMBs

This is W212 forum. You can not put those offsets...

This is W212 forum. You can not put those offsets on W212. Do not confuse C218 with W212.
05-29-2018, 04:31 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,289
Posted By threeMBs

Plus with airmatic, one can use 20" wheels with...

Plus with airmatic, one can use 20" wheels with proper front size (in terms of load and sidewall) tires of 245/35-20 on W212.
05-28-2018, 09:25 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 348
Posted By threeMBs

245/35-20 do not fit upfront on non-airmatic W212...

245/35-20 do not fit upfront on non-airmatic W212 due to spring perch rubbing. Use 235/35-20 (255/30-20 is rubber-band you correctly do not want, but also do fit).
05-24-2018, 01:19 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 279
Posted By threeMBs

OP, 265/30-19 is an incorrect tire for W212 -...

OP, 265/30-19 is an incorrect tire for W212 - wrong diameter (too small) and wrong load. 265/35-19 is the correct tire, but will rub in most cases upfront. For 9.5" wide wheel, 255 (/35 for 19") is...
04-16-2018, 12:40 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 427
Posted By threeMBs

Highlighted above will not fit. You should...

Highlighted above will not fit.

You should have ran 255/35-19 (or at least 245/35-19) front and 285/30-19 (no issues for 4matic).

For maximum sidewall hight that fits, use 235/40-19 front and...
03-22-2018, 12:31 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 926
Posted By threeMBs

1. You will need 15mm spacers upfront to push...

1. You will need 15mm spacers upfront to push front tires from rubber boots, however you may have problems with fender which depends a tire brand you choose.

2. More importantly, by increasing...
03-21-2018, 09:14 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 926
Posted By threeMBs

IMHO, it can only work on AMG (maybe his is 63)...

IMHO, it can only work on AMG (maybe his is 63) version because its front fenders are at least 10mm wider so one can push out wheel/tire enough without sticking out too much while clearing the...
03-21-2018, 08:25 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 926
Posted By threeMBs

I'm extremely, extremely skeptical on any claim...

I'm extremely, extremely skeptical on any claim of 275/35-20 (27.6"!!!) upfront regardless of wheel's width and offset. 255/35-20 is the highest (27") one can use without rubbing on 9" wide wheel...
03-17-2018, 09:36 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 392
Posted By threeMBs

1. The safest minimum recommended rim width for...

1. The safest minimum recommended rim width for 275/35 is 9", while stock is only 8.5". Front will easily fit a much taller than 275/35-18 (which is only about 25.6") tire - 26.7" 245/45-18 easily...
03-02-2018, 05:55 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 1,906
Posted By threeMBs

What year/model/trim was it originally installed...

What year/model/trim was it originally installed in and does it have shift paddles?
01-29-2018, 06:48 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 607
Posted By threeMBs

^^^

^^^
01-24-2018, 08:31 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 607
Posted By threeMBs

Many, including myself, put larger diameter 20"s....

Many, including myself, put larger diameter 20"s. You can do a search and find all the details. 245/35-20 front and 285/30-20 rear fit without any issues. 255/35-20 is a very, very tight fit upfront...
01-24-2018, 10:31 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 858
Posted By threeMBs

No, has nothing to do with AMG. "C" stand for...

No, has nothing to do with AMG. "C" stand for coupe (MB calls CLS a 4dr coupe) (C207, C218, etc.), "W" stand for sedan (W212, W204, W222, etc.), "S" stand for wagon (S212; go figure, intuitively it...
01-19-2018, 04:47 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,806
Posted By threeMBs

Only E550 with airmatics (which all 2010 and 2011...

Only E550 with airmatics (which all 2010 and 2011 E550s are) can fit (barely) 245/35-20 upfront. All "standard" E350s and E550s without airmatics (all 2012-2014 E550s had airmatic as an option and a...
12-24-2017, 07:54 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 741
Posted By threeMBs

Dealers replace oil only from the top (powerful...

Dealers replace oil only from the top (powerful vacuums). I replace oil myself since 2000 only from the top. (16 cars, 8 of them Es, never a problem with basically all oil sucked out). Takes about 30...
12-24-2017, 12:55 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 741
Posted By threeMBs

One of the beauties of owning a Mercedes is that...

One of the beauties of owning a Mercedes is that one does not crawl under the car to change the oil - it’s done from the top and takes less time than taking car to a dealer.
12-23-2017, 07:54 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 741
Posted By threeMBs

OP, you are kidding, right? The oil filter can...

OP, you are kidding, right? The oil filter can not be seen from the outside, it’s inside the “black and not that shiny” filter housing! Unbelievable!
07-22-2017, 05:29 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 382
Posted By threeMBs

It goes without saying that the proposed set up,...

It goes without saying that the proposed set up, will be much closer to the struts than the current set up. As the pictures show - very minor poke upfront as compared to how it would look non lowered...
07-22-2017, 12:22 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 382
Posted By threeMBs

I do not have experience with lowered cars, so my...

I do not have experience with lowered cars, so my reply may not help your specific case.

But, for stock hight, what you're planning to run will have no clearance issues on the inside (strut side).
07-05-2017, 04:27 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,588
Posted By threeMBs

Sprint Booster and keep it in red (transmission...

Sprint Booster and keep it in red (transmission should alway be in "S", this goes without saying).
06-28-2017, 08:35 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,499
Posted By threeMBs

The point of post #21 is that 20x11 et42 rears...

The point of post #21 is that 20x11 et42 rears will match the look of 20x9 et25 fronts perfectly.

The outboard difference will be exactly as the set up I'm running - 20x9 et20 & 20x10 et25(sorry,...
06-27-2017, 04:06 PM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,499
Posted By threeMBs

I use 20x10 et30 rear wheels with 285/30-20...

I use 20x10 et30 rear wheels with 285/30-20 tires. Your wheels are 20x11 et42 which is about identical outboard position to my 10" wide et30 wheels. I would NOT use rear spacers at all in your case,...
06-25-2017, 11:01 AM
Replies: 30
Views: 2,499
Posted By threeMBs

245/35-20 front with 285/30-20 rear is what I and...

245/35-20 front with 285/30-20 rear is what I and many others use on C218. The key is the offset. With 245/35-20 on 20x9, I use spacers to "make" it et20. One can easily use et25 as well. If using...
06-21-2017, 05:25 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 515
Posted By threeMBs

245/35-20 fits front of 2010 E550 because its...

245/35-20 fits front of 2010 E550 because its airmatic, which was standard on 2010-11 E550 only. 245/35-20 does not fit front of non-airmatic W212.
Forum: W218
06-01-2017, 01:59 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 2,541
Posted By threeMBs

That's why in such cases, one goes tot the dealer...

That's why in such cases, one goes tot the dealer for "help".
05-24-2017, 11:32 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 727
Posted By threeMBs

255/35 with 285/30

255/35 with 285/30
05-23-2017, 07:10 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 727
Posted By threeMBs

Yes wheels will fit easily. Its the tires from...

Yes wheels will fit easily. Its the tires from the original post that won't (especially the rears).
05-22-2017, 12:41 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,183
Posted By threeMBs

No, this will not fit front of an MB with dust...

No, this will not fit front of an MB with dust cap. Pictured spacers are for rear or for both (front and rear) for models without front dust cap. All W212 have front dust caps, hence these will never...
05-22-2017, 10:19 AM
Replies: 12
Views: 727
Posted By threeMBs

Front wheels will fit (barely) a stock hight car,...

Front wheels will fit (barely) a stock hight car, but once lowered, no idea.

Rear tires will definitely not fit at all. Front tires will badly rub.
05-22-2017, 10:12 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,183
Posted By threeMBs

Capped front spacers are required for width of...

Capped front spacers are required for width of 10mm or above. Stock wheels should clear these spacers. If they do not or aftermarket wheels are used, then a bit more conservative path is required -...
05-19-2017, 12:22 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 423
Posted By threeMBs

Ideally on MB 4matic you want to be within 1%...

Ideally on MB 4matic you want to be within 1% front/rear, so for E class tires its 0.3". So for example with 18" wheels, ideal upto 1% would be 245/40 & 275/35 or 255/40 & 285/35 (of course 100%...
Forum: W218
04-28-2017, 08:42 AM
Replies: 36
Views: 2,541
Posted By threeMBs

In my experience with them, I've sold (not just...

In my experience with them, I've sold (not just traded-in) cars to them twice and both times (the last time a year ago) they gave me more for the car (by 4.5% the last time) to buy it out right than...
04-26-2017, 02:48 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 519
Posted By threeMBs

IMHO, since you plan to lower anyway, W212 E does...

IMHO, since you plan to lower anyway, W212 E does not need 20" at all (again IMHO after I was one of the first to run 20s on W212 way back). Once lowered, you can run the most proper (again IMHO) set...
04-26-2017, 02:43 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 519
Posted By threeMBs

No the issues is not rubbing with the body (it...

No the issues is not rubbing with the body (it can be "fixed" by using different offset/width wheel), its here:
04-26-2017, 02:25 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 519
Posted By threeMBs

There were several posters with 2010-11 E550s...

There were several posters with 2010-11 E550s (these are old posts from back then) who claimed that they were able to fit 245/35-20 upfront without any issues. It was determined later by members'...
04-26-2017, 02:16 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 1,176
Posted By threeMBs

Agree. Because car still has original 4/50...

Agree. Because car still has original 4/50 warranty in effect, it is eligible for MB ELW (on E 7/75 MB ELW is only $2,700 before discount of at least 10% offered here:...
04-26-2017, 02:05 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 519
Posted By threeMBs

If your E550W4 has airmatic (became an option...

If your E550W4 has airmatic (became an option from 2012 on), then 245/35-20 front is doable.
Forum: W218
04-26-2017, 01:05 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 2,541
Posted By threeMBs

Price is fair, but its out of warranty and for an...

Price is fair, but its out of warranty and for an AMG its a "problem". Take it to MB of Sarasota and see if they'll come reasonably close to what you want for it and if so just sell it to them - a no...
04-17-2017, 05:35 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 622
Posted By threeMBs

What's in the left front mirror that is not in...

What's in the left front mirror that is not in the right front one to justify 6 to 8 times (depending of where one gets them from) the price difference?
04-07-2017, 12:56 PM
Replies: 142
Views: 11,457
Posted By threeMBs

Can't blame Mercedes (there are lemons from time...

Can't blame Mercedes (there are lemons from time to time, hence "lemon laws", and I would never buy any first model year car from MB, especially an early production one) for behavior of commissioned...
Forum: W212 AMG
04-05-2017, 10:54 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 597
Posted By threeMBs

Agree with both above statements (in addition to...

Agree with both above statements (in addition to rubbing rear will poke a lot), hence would like to hear from poster #4.

CLS has much more room to run wider wheels and wider tires with lower rear...
Forum: W212 AMG
04-05-2017, 09:48 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 597
Posted By threeMBs

Well I do not understand how 295/30-20 was even...

Well I do not understand how 295/30-20 was even fitable on W212 (if one would ask me, I would say zero chance of fitting), but that's not the purpose here. The question to poster #4 was and still is...
Forum: W212 AMG
04-05-2017, 08:32 AM
Replies: 15
Views: 597
Posted By threeMBs

Thanks for the lesson, but I know what needs to...

Thanks for the lesson, but I know what needs to be done. My post, the one that you replied to for some reason, was regarding post #4 above.
04-04-2017, 09:26 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 6,250
Posted By threeMBs

Ned, read post #96 here: ...

Ned, read post #96 here:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w213-amg/648521-should-i-consider-e43-amg-real-amg-4.html#post7104346.

Yes, impossible in FL, but according to that poster...well you can read...
Forum: W212 AMG
04-04-2017, 09:03 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 597
Posted By threeMBs

295/30-20 is more sidewall than stock 285/30-19,...

295/30-20 is more sidewall than stock 285/30-19, so ride would not be any harsher. So I'll second above question, why never 20s if one used same profile as stock's 19?
04-04-2017, 08:55 PM
Replies: 77
Views: 6,250
Posted By threeMBs

Discounts aside, I fail to see price complains...

Discounts aside, I fail to see price complains regarding E43's premium over E300. When equipped with same/similar options, the difference is only about $10K. For this extra $10K you get ENGINE...
04-01-2017, 03:46 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 2,447
Posted By threeMBs

Yes, applies to both 18" OEM and 19" OEM...

Yes, applies to both 18" OEM and 19" OEM wheels.
04-01-2017, 11:07 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 2,447
Posted By threeMBs

Well then you do not have ABC. If you use spacers...

Well then you do not have ABC. If you use spacers in your original post, then the bolts in the same post are the ones to be used.
04-01-2017, 08:43 AM
Replies: 37
Views: 2,447
Posted By threeMBs

In the US, all 2013-2016 SL550s should be the...

In the US, all 2013-2016 SL550s should be the same. The only caveat is since I've never seen front hub of R231 SL with ABC, I can not vouch that ALL are the same upfront. If your car does not have...
Forum: W213 AMG
03-31-2017, 08:53 PM
Replies: 136
Views: 20,593
Posted By threeMBs

Really? Well it seems that CA residents get...

Really? Well it seems that CA residents get discounts on Es (and other MBs) not available anywhere else in the US. State Government must subsides all MB deals to keep people still reside in the state...
03-31-2017, 08:41 PM
Replies: 37
Views: 2,447
Posted By threeMBs

Above will work just fine. As an...

Above will work just fine.

As an alternative, you could use 3055665 front spacers (R231, unlike R230, do not have front dust caps so "9" is not required) and 40556654 rear spacers (these rear...
03-27-2017, 05:03 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 588
Posted By threeMBs

Finger crossing won't help - 245/40-20 will not...

Finger crossing won't help - 245/40-20 will not fit.
03-23-2017, 04:18 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 780
Posted By threeMBs

et35 front, not lower than et38 rear

et35 front, not lower than et38 rear
03-23-2017, 02:35 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 780
Posted By threeMBs

You should run 255/35 front on 19x8.5 with et39...

You should run 255/35 front on 19x8.5 with et39 (+/- 2mm) and 285/30-19 on rear 19x9.5 et42 (+/- 2mm). However, if you do run 245/275, then you can run lower offsets that specified above by about 3mm.
03-23-2017, 10:10 AM
Replies: 2
Views: 324
Posted By threeMBs

Did you actually try fitting them on? Does it...

Did you actually try fitting them on? Does it clear front suspension's pearch?

As far as spacers. For your wheels (if they fit due to tire's diameter that normally does not fit non-airmatic...
03-19-2017, 10:24 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 834
Posted By threeMBs

On my 2015 SL (and on my two other '14 cars), I...

On my 2015 SL (and on my two other '14 cars), I have to both select Sport and de-select ECO...two presses every time car is started.
Forum: W212 AMG
02-26-2017, 01:15 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 384
Posted By threeMBs

110? That's for ML/GL/S/CL (all stock wheels for...

110? That's for ML/GL/S/CL (all stock wheels for these cars use "long" 45mm bolts). All Es/CLSs/SLs (all stock wheels for these use "short" 27.5mm bolts) should be torqued to 96.
02-22-2017, 08:50 AM
Replies: 3,354
Views: 937,997
Posted By threeMBs

Please, define "recommended". In any case, its...

Please, define "recommended". In any case, its not the right thread for this discussion.
02-22-2017, 08:48 AM
Replies: 3,354
Views: 937,997
Posted By threeMBs

Yes you're correct, 26.5" is the max, which means...

Yes you're correct, 26.5" is the max, which means 235/40-19 is the max.

I'm a bit too lazy to do a detailed search, but if memory serves me right, there was someone (somewhere on W212 board) who...
02-21-2017, 08:43 AM
Replies: 3,354
Views: 937,997
Posted By threeMBs

Ah, non-US car -different story. Tire's (tyre's)...

Ah, non-US car -different story. Tire's (tyre's) width has nothing to do with fitting 245/35-20 on US non-airmaitc W212 E class cars - its tire's hight (diameter). Almost all 245/35-20 tires'...
02-20-2017, 03:04 PM
Replies: 3,354
Views: 937,997
Posted By threeMBs

No rubbing upfront with 245/35-20? Must be E550...

No rubbing upfront with 245/35-20? Must be E550 with airmatic?
02-17-2017, 06:24 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,209
Posted By threeMBs

Mercedes' MOE is run flat. Following is OEM...

Mercedes' MOE is run flat.

Following is OEM on 2017 W213 E-class with 20s:

"Pirelli P Zero Run Flat (PZ4) tires are Max Performance Summer tires derived from Pirelli's Formula 1 experience and...
02-17-2017, 04:21 PM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,209
Posted By threeMBs

Are you planning to carry a full size (about 27"...

Are you planning to carry a full size (about 27" diameter) spare in the trunk? Since there's no room for spare under the floor, with full spare, trunk will have hardly much room left. E43 with 20" MO...
02-17-2017, 11:10 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 1,209
Posted By threeMBs

What is the difference? Aren't EMT and RF are the...

What is the difference? Aren't EMT and RF are the same, but just called differently (both can be used at zero pressure at 50mph upto 50 miles)?
02-17-2017, 11:01 AM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,147
Posted By threeMBs

With 245/35-20 tires, you will have no issues...

With 245/35-20 tires, you will have no issues whatsoever.

If you want to stay with 30 section tires, I would use higher load capable 265/30-20 over suggested above 255/30-20.
Forum: W212 AMG
02-17-2017, 08:56 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 7,091
Posted By threeMBs

Correct.

Correct.
Forum: W212 AMG
02-17-2017, 08:56 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 7,091
Posted By threeMBs

Yes to both.

Yes to both.
02-14-2017, 08:44 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,295
Posted By threeMBs

I stand corrected, you're right. Dealer explained...

I stand corrected, you're right. Dealer explained to me again that the reason they can't sell me ELW is because its a used car which I would buy from them (MB dealer). Had I bought the car from the...
02-14-2017, 12:04 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,295
Posted By threeMBs

I am sure "they" can sell "warranty" on-line. The...

I am sure "they" can sell "warranty" on-line. The question is - will your local MB dealer, where you plan to service the car should it require warranty work after 4/50 runs out, honor it? My local MB...
02-14-2017, 10:21 AM
Replies: 128
Views: 26,758
Posted By threeMBs

+1. Exactly.

+1. Exactly.
02-14-2017, 10:17 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 471
Posted By threeMBs

DW is phased out for the...

DW is phased out for the tire:http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ExtremeContact+Sport&partnum=635YR8ECSXL&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes
02-14-2017, 08:56 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,295
Posted By threeMBs

Sadly it is true. My MB dealer has a 2015 CLS63S...

Sadly it is true. My MB dealer has a 2015 CLS63S with 13K miles for sale. It was sold new by them and serviced by them from day one. However, I walked away from the car even though there are still 2...
02-13-2017, 10:48 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,295
Posted By threeMBs

Since this E550 is used, one can not buy MB's ELW...

Since this E550 is used, one can not buy MB's ELW because it can be bought only by the original buyer who bought the car new. Nor one can buy MB's CPO warranty since CPO certification can be obtained...
02-09-2017, 09:37 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,503
Posted By threeMBs

245/40-19 tire is about 26.7" diameter (vs....

245/40-19 tire is about 26.7" diameter (vs. stock's 26") combined with stock like 35mm front offset will be very close to airmatic's rubber boot. You should be OK, but just in case you're not, 5mm or...
02-09-2017, 05:20 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 1,503
Posted By threeMBs

Yes this set up will fit, however due to higher...

Yes this set up will fit, however due to higher front diameter than stock with stock front offset, 5mm to 10mm front spacers are advised. For the rear, assuming you're not lowered, you can use even...
02-04-2017, 11:06 AM
Replies: 17
Views: 1,405
Posted By threeMBs

It will be nowhere close to $110K as optioned....

It will be nowhere close to $110K as optioned. (As Ned knows, fully optioned E43 is $91K). E63S, as optioned, will be well north of $120K.
02-01-2017, 09:10 AM
Replies: 91
Views: 6,905
Posted By threeMBs

Are you sure about that? Totally false. Airmatic...

Are you sure about that? Totally false. Airmatic was still a rare option for 2014 E550 4matic as well.
01-30-2017, 04:47 PM
Replies: 91
Views: 6,905
Posted By threeMBs

Aha. Then I'd like to try what they used while...

Aha. Then I'd like to try what they used while "testing". Do you really think your sedan can do 5sec 0-60? Get real.
01-30-2017, 03:53 PM
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Posted By threeMBs

Where did you pull this 4.9sec 0-60 for W212 E400...

Where did you pull this 4.9sec 0-60 for W212 E400 sedan from? The official number for lighter E400 coupe is 6.1sec (that's a bit too slow, but that's what posted on mbusa.com) and for CLS400 5.3sec...
01-29-2017, 09:35 PM
Replies: 91
Views: 6,905
Posted By threeMBs

If CLS' interior will resemble the one in E, it...

If CLS' interior will resemble the one in E, it will mean a total redesign including exterior.
01-29-2017, 08:41 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 999
Posted By threeMBs

Exactly correct. Same applies to new US bought MB...

Exactly correct. Same applies to new US bought MB cars - no exporting for one year (and yes they make you sign a paper to this effect).
01-29-2017, 07:26 PM
Replies: 91
Views: 6,905
Posted By threeMBs

What makes you say that? Won't CLS will be...

What makes you say that? Won't CLS will be totally redesigned and not just the interior? C219 was a six year run model, so assuming C218 is also a six year run car, shouldn't 2018MY be a completely...
01-25-2017, 10:55 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 922
Posted By threeMBs

I think, before recommending E550, responders...

I think, before recommending E550, responders should consider where OP is coming from and OP's requirements (not responders).

1. OP is coming from a small, but very sporty car
2. OP wants a more...
01-25-2017, 08:18 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 922
Posted By threeMBs

IMHO (as a '14 E550 owner), considering your...

IMHO (as a '14 E550 owner), considering your requirements and where you are coming from, then its clearly '15 C400(not to be confused with C300) over '14 E550.
01-19-2017, 02:09 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 540
Posted By threeMBs

Oops.

Oops.
01-19-2017, 12:20 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 5,982
Posted By threeMBs

Understeer can be controlled with tire pressure -...

Understeer can be controlled with tire pressure - I'm using identical tire pressure of 40psi front with 245 and rear with 285 (SL550's stock 255/285 is 35/42). You could run 42psi front with 245 and...
01-19-2017, 08:28 AM
Replies: 81
Views: 5,982
Posted By threeMBs

This confirms what I said before - 255/35-20 will...

This confirms what I said before - 255/35-20 will ("barely") fit SL550 and because of very tight fit on SL550, will not fit SL63. Also as stated above, while 245/35-20 fits SL550 with room, it fit be...
01-18-2017, 12:56 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 194
Posted By threeMBs

Minimum 20mm poke front and rear.

Minimum 20mm poke front and rear.
01-16-2017, 07:02 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 11,198
Posted By threeMBs

Something is off here. First it was $5K, then...

Something is off here. First it was $5K, then $4.5K, now its $3K, and it looks like that by the end of the negotiation, it would end up around $1K or what Ned got. If you do not mind me asking, what...
01-16-2017, 06:52 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 5,982
Posted By threeMBs

What's new here? See my above posts. They all...

What's new here? See my above posts. They all "recommend" stock tire diameters of 26" for front fitment - for 18" its 255/40, for 19" its 255/35 and for 20" its 255/30.

Point you probably missed...
01-16-2017, 06:36 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 11,198
Posted By threeMBs

Which car do you think?

Which car do you think?
01-16-2017, 05:22 PM
Replies: 68
Views: 11,198
Posted By threeMBs

Interesting, not a word about...

Interesting, not a word about "discount"?
01-16-2017, 12:51 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 5,982
Posted By threeMBs

[QUOTE=Sunline;7026026]The SL 63 upper control...

[QUOTE=Sunline;7026026]The SL 63 upper control arm bolt is in the same position as the SL 550 regardless of ride height./QUOTE]

Interesting. I do not have picture of stock SL550, but...

the...
01-16-2017, 09:39 AM
Replies: 68
Views: 11,198
Posted By threeMBs

$1K off on a $91K E43 - only 1% off: ...

$1K off on a $91K E43 - only 1% off:

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w213/633660-how-much-did-you-pay-your-w213-e-class-3.html#post7024812
01-16-2017, 08:30 AM
Replies: 81
Views: 5,982
Posted By threeMBs

That's why I am and have always, used 245/35-20...

That's why I am and have always, used 245/35-20 on front on SL and CLS (and W211 E). Many, however, have used 255/30-20 (and even 245/30-20 as you were told elsewhere, even thought its incorrect for...
01-15-2017, 10:33 PM
Replies: 81
Views: 5,982
Posted By threeMBs

SL63 is significantly lower than SL550 (in the...

SL63 is significantly lower than SL550 (in the US). I know that 245/35-20 fits front of SL550 with room left, hence am confident that 255/35-20 (diameter of which is only about 5mm taller) should fit...
01-15-2017, 07:38 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 12,060
Posted By threeMBs

E43 is just hitting show rooms. Why would they...

E43 is just hitting show rooms. Why would they discount a relatively limited production car, if they know they can get MSRP (or very close to it)? Oh, but there's E63 you'll say? Yes, but it'll be...
01-15-2017, 10:45 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 12,060
Posted By threeMBs

Congrats on S8. Clearly a more expensive car even...

Congrats on S8. Clearly a more expensive car even with "a great discount", but also clearly significantly more of a car. Enjoy!
01-14-2017, 03:34 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 611
Posted By threeMBs

Yes, and ML is such a car, not SL. ...

Yes, and ML is such a car, not SL.




Used to be E550, but now CLS550 since it started collecting "dust" too.
01-14-2017, 08:58 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 580
Posted By threeMBs

Just noticed you have '14 E550 too. I have no...

Just noticed you have '14 E550 too. I have no issues related to needing to "adapt" or any throttle delay (doesn't "tune" suppose to eliminate all "that"?). In general I found that facelift (2014-on)...
01-14-2017, 08:51 AM
Replies: 11
Views: 580
Posted By threeMBs

SB does not do anything to transmission - its...

SB does not do anything to transmission - its eliminating the dreaded throttle delay. Its been covered in great details in many places. Search will get you all the info to help make your own decision.
01-14-2017, 08:45 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 611
Posted By threeMBs

Sorry, but not driving SUV in snow, is what I do...

Sorry, but not driving SUV in snow, is what I do not get. When I had MLs, I drove them exclusively in snow/rain "up there" and rain "down here". I would be extremely uncomfortable in SL in any...
01-13-2017, 07:37 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 611
Posted By threeMBs

My SL is 26 months old and has ... 1,600 miles!

My SL is 26 months old and has ... 1,600 miles!
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