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susman@eurogermantown.com 02-10-2018 05:33 PM

AMG GT Sedan
 
So this should be shown early March at Geneva... was wondering what you all thought about it.. a sedan version of the GT. I am not sure how many I'll try and get and the demand or no?

Link of a couple spy pics and info

soulsea 02-10-2018 05:59 PM

Spoke to a big dealership in Atlanta yesterday that I know well, not a single person has inquired to them about this car.

Not really surprising, aside for a few mentions here and there not many people even know about it.

It's an interesting niche segment MB is going for ... is the 6 series grand coupe such a high seller that MB wanted to compete with it?

I know the new Panamera sales have been very robust so maybe there is a market for high priced four door GT car, but that's more of the S class segment.

This is something I might be interested in ... how awesome would it be if they made a shooting brake version. :)

AMG 17GT 02-10-2018 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by soulsea (Post 7378421)
Spoke to a big dealership in Atlanta yesterday that I know well, not a single person has inquired to them about this car.

Not really surprising, aside for a few mentions here and there not many people even know about it.

It's an interesting niche segment MB is going for ... is the 6 series grand coupe such a high seller that MB wanted to compete with it?

I know the new Panamera sales have been very robust so maybe there is a market for high priced four door GT car, but that's more of the S class segment.

This is something I might be interested in ... how awesome would it be if they made a shooting brake version. :)


im glad I have old front grill, every new car from Benz is looking same.

thebishman 02-11-2018 12:53 PM

I talked to a New Car Sales Manager at a MB dealership in Atlanta who had recently returned from a private showing of this car. He stated that he thought it would ‘transform’ the high performance 4-door sedan segment, and I think he may be correct. The top-of-the-line version is supposed to have 770-800 HP; AWD with the front wheels driven electrically, and the ability to travel up to 30 miles on battery power alone. Sounds like a winner to me, especially if there is a GTR version.

Bish

Wolfman 02-11-2018 03:51 PM

I suppose they call it a GT sedan to position the car that way. Technically it’s based on the new CLS and shares the parts with the E/CLS, apart from the rear wheel steering coming from the GT C/R.

No doubt, this will be an interesting car. It’ll be the quickest AMG to date, well apart from the Project1. There is definitely a larger customer base for these than the GT models so I think this will likely be a winner in terms of sales.

Not sure how I feel about the Edition 1 model that will apparently feature a fixed rear wing a la ED1 GTs

susman@eurogermantown.com 02-12-2018 10:03 AM

Yea I think the new panamera is selling well..,I like the sport turismo variant... this should do wel but I also have to tell customers, nobody knows its even coming yet..

thebishman 02-12-2018 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com (Post 7379318)
Yea I think the new panamera is selling well..,I like the sport turismo variant... this should do wel but I also have to tell customers, nobody knows its even coming yet..

I suspect it will blow people away! Have you seen it yet?

Bish

Walter Chavez 02-12-2018 07:41 PM

Personally, if a 4 door version of the AMG GT sedan comes out, then it's something me and my family will be interested in.

susman@eurogermantown.com 02-12-2018 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by thebishman (Post 7379750)


I suspect it will blow people away! Have you seen it yet?

Bish

Owner has.. I have a meeting in NY next month..may see it or they may just show me the cls or E53 models


Originally Posted by Walter Chavez (Post 7379760)
Personally, if a 4 door version of the AMG GT sedan comes out, then it's something me and my family will be interested in.

Really.. I can definitely help with that lol.. Honestly I I hope it sells well but also hope I get the right amount of cars

syswei 02-13-2018 06:21 PM

Autocar article

Some interesting info. 4 powertrain options, with the top 3 being hybrid. Taking the Panamera approach in that there is a hybrid on top.

susman@eurogermantown.com 02-13-2018 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by syswei (Post 7380447)
Autocar article

Some interesting info. 4 powertrain options, with the top 3 being hybrid. Taking the Panamera approach in that there is a hybrid on top.

As the article says.. Im sure the hybrids will be to start the assault of the EQ branded electric variants of cars...I got my 1st C350e with EQ power branding on it the other day

I be surprised if they offer more than 3 variants.. 53 AMG hybrid, the 63 and whatever the range topper is... hybrid..

syswei 02-13-2018 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com (Post 7380503)

I be surprised if they offer more than 3 variants.. 53 AMG hybrid, the 63 and whatever the range topper is... hybrid..

I think they may have the CLS top out at 53, and the GT 4-door start at 63, but we'll see.

susman@eurogermantown.com 02-13-2018 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by syswei (Post 7380514)
I think they may have the CLS top out at 53, and the GT 4-door start at 63, but we'll see.

I heard that also.. why make a CL63 when you can get this ...or an E63 honestly.. or lets be honest..a E63 wagon ;) !!

MalibuScott 02-14-2018 12:42 AM


Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com (Post 7380523)
I heard that also.. why make a CL63 when you can get this ...or an E63 honestly.. or lets be honest..a E63 wagon ;) !!

Probably for the same reason most people buy the SL rather than the GT.

susman@eurogermantown.com 02-14-2018 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by MalibuScott (Post 7380728)
Probably for the same reason most people buy the SL rather than the GT.

True, i had to show someone looking at a GT cab an SL because I told him for the same price you can have a grand tourer/comfy (by comparison) Sl or if they wanted a sports car then the GT cab... they bought the SL550... granted I did the same thing a month later and they took the GT :)

more pics of the GT sedan in the wind tunnel

AHI 02-14-2018 11:06 PM

I will 100% buy this in a hybrid or electric to replace my CLS63

syswei 02-15-2018 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by AHI (Post 7381553)
I will 100% buy this in a hybrid or electric to replace my CLS63

I don't think they would do a full electric version. I think full EVs will be on dedicated EV platforms, as they should be imo.

MalibuScott 02-15-2018 11:05 AM

Years ago Mercedes promised us an all electric SLS. Never happened. (Wikipedia says it was a prototype and that fewer than 100 units were sold. Were any sold at all?)

susman@eurogermantown.com 02-15-2018 11:17 AM

Mercedes is pushing the EQ electric cars pretty hard I think.. hence the new Brand and entry in formula E (sorry DTM). They will show the new EQ-C at Geneva in a couple weeks.

There will be a pretty aggressive electric version (800hp rumors?) but probably right on that it wont be a full even on this chassis... Tobias Moers did say EV's (or maybe he said electrification) are going to be major in AMG's future

surfah 02-15-2018 02:33 PM

I feel confident Mercedes will entertain a full electric version to compete with the Porsche Mission E.

syswei 02-16-2018 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by surfah (Post 7382064)
I feel confident Mercedes will entertain a full electric version to compete with the Porsche Mission E.

There is imo zero chance that they take this GT 4-door chassis and and introduce a full electric version.

For an EV to be really good and take advantage of the advantages that EV allows, you need a platform specific to EV. MB WILL have those, and that is where we will see future full EVs from MB (and AMG), past limited-production experiments aside. Not by taking an ICE/hybrid chassis and making it a full EV.

surfah 02-16-2018 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by syswei (Post 7382557)
There is imo zero chance that they take this GT 4-door chassis and and introduce a full electric version.

For an EV to be really good and take advantage of the advantages that EV allows, you need a platform specific to EV. MB WILL have those, and that is where we will see future full EVs from MB (and AMG), past limited-production experiments aside. Not by taking an ICE/hybrid chassis and making it a full EV.

How do you explain the SLS AMG Electric Drive and Audi R8 E-tron?

syswei 02-16-2018 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by surfah (Post 7382864)
How do you explain the SLS AMG Electric Drive and Audi R8 E-tron?

As I said, "past limited-production experiments aside".

The future of EVs belongs to EV-optimized, EV-dedicated platforms. And I think it is clear that MB is indeed going that route. It is the less-well-resourced companies like Aston Martin that might put out EVs that aren't on EV-optimized platforms, and such models are unlikely to achieve sales success, imo.

syswei 02-20-2018 03:48 PM

pictures

syswei 02-20-2018 04:40 PM

one of the pics from the article linked to in the post just before this onehttps://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...329f53993b.jpg


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