C63 AMG (W204) 2008 - 2015

Brake fluid flush??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 09-26-2012, 09:29 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
black-clk500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Brake fluid flush??

Hey guys,
I'm bringing my (2011) car in for it's 2 year service, 8000 miles on the clock.
Do I need to change the brake fluid???
Seems a bit early for a car with 8000 miles IMO, but MB recommends it in their maintenance guide (every two years or 20k miles).
I figured it would be fine to wait until next year with 12k miles and three years old.
What did you guys do?
How much should I pay for B1, my dealer said around $600 for the works.
Thanks

BTW is the cabin filter change really needed too?
Old 09-26-2012, 11:56 PM
  #2  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
vdubpower's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: OC
Posts: 6,255
Received 53 Likes on 41 Posts
i drive them all, fast and hard
2 yrs , 8000 miles, dude drive your car
Old 09-27-2012, 12:03 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
mthis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ny
Posts: 4,453
Received 30 Likes on 29 Posts
Anything W/4Wheels
Originally Posted by black-clk500
Hey guys,
I'm bringing my (2011) car in for it's 2 year service, 8000 miles on the clock.
Do I need to change the brake fluid???
Seems a bit early for a car with 8000 miles IMO, but MB recommends it in their maintenance guide (every two years or 20k miles).
I figured it would be fine to wait until next year with 12k miles and three years old.
What did you guys do?
How much should I pay for B1, my dealer said around $600 for the works.
Thanks

BTW is the cabin filter change really needed too?
U fine don't stres it, I had 4xxxx miles when changed the brake fluid and just did cabin filter couple days ago in my drive way.

Cabin filter is very easy an simple to do.
Old 09-27-2012, 12:05 AM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Roswell's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 7,860
Received 39 Likes on 36 Posts
2010 C63 AMG, 2009 ISF , 2002 L-Tuned IS300, 2011 ML350
I passed on the brake fluid change as well. My dealership looked at my fluid and my low-mileage car (5 000km at the time of service B lol) & told me to wait next year no problem. Some members will say otherwise though, but I'm fine cuz it's only my week-end car.. an extra year wont affect my brake that much.
Old 09-27-2012, 03:02 AM
  #5  
Super Member
 
tfthach13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
'09 C63
My independent guy (was lead service adviser at MB dealership for 20 years) says to do the brake fluid flush every 2 years. His rationale is that brake fluid is known for absorbing moisture from the air and over time, enough water will accumulate in the brake lines to cause decreased brake response. Under repeated heavy braking the response from your break will decrease due to the water boiling before the brake fluid does. This is due to water having a lower boiling point than the brake fluid.

Dealerships tends to over estimate the intervals in which the engine fluids needs replacing.
The following users liked this post:
insame1 (11-14-2017)
Old 09-27-2012, 08:31 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
shades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Toronto
Posts: 381
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
09 C63, 11 Cayenne S
Get yourself a brake tester and check it yourself. It's so much easier, and it's piece of mind when you lose track of when you did it last
Old 09-27-2012, 10:09 AM
  #7  
Super Member
 
cptdaz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 689
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
home the point
$600?! What else is included?
Old 09-27-2012, 10:12 AM
  #8  
Banned
 
Guilty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,838
Received 69 Likes on 58 Posts
'16 C63-S
lol @ the $600 lol
Old 09-27-2012, 11:27 AM
  #9  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
jvanbrecht's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,955
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
2017 Mini Cooper S Clubman ALL4 - British Racing Green
Go buy a $50 pressure bleeder from Amazon, get a few feet of clear rubber pipe (pet store would have it) for the bleeder valve, and go get some brake fluid.. jack your car up.. bleed.. rinse and repeat all 4 wheels, take about an hour, and most of that time is just jacking up the car and taking off the wheels (you can do it without removing the wheels, but its a tight space).

It is a real easy job that I will be doing this weekend when I change my pads as well (not to mention cleaning the calipers and wheel well, and inside of the wheels)
Old 09-27-2012, 11:51 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Zeee_Q's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
C63, 335i
I recently just had my brake fluid flush done by the dealership as well and it was only about $100 but the cheaper way is to just buy a mity-vac or some sort of vacuum with different hose sizes and bleed it yourself. The brake fluids aren't that expensive and the vacuum isn't that much either.
Old 09-27-2012, 05:17 PM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
black-clk500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Thanks guys for all the responses!
Had my service done this morning, my dealer wanted $600 for the B1 and then another $139 for the brake flush.
I told them to change my engine oil $114, change my cabin filter $146 and flush the brakes $139. The rest of the fluff in B1 is a waste IMO and I don't need new windshield wipers since I only used mine TWICE in two years
BTW the cabin filter is total BS IMO, but I guess I would do it eventually, that won't be changed again as long as I own it

Out the door, my service was $440 for everything (plus the $50 I always tip my AMG Tech)

I asked in the PL last night about the brake fluid and one of the AMG guys said it needs to be changed every two year or less regardless of mileage. Like others have said, its the breakdown of the fluid and water infiltration that requires a brake flush. For $140, I couldn't say no, cheap money for peace of mind and it does the parts good if nothing else.

Last edited by black-clk500; 09-27-2012 at 05:19 PM.
Old 09-28-2012, 12:27 AM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jon2007E63P30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,717
Likes: 0
Received 17 Likes on 11 Posts
2007 E63 w/P30 and Eurotech CF Diffuser
You did the right thing by flushing the brake fluid.
Old 09-29-2012, 01:17 AM
  #13  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Merc-Skycap's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AMG & RR
Coming from someone that barely drives his C63 I didn't end up doing the break flush till about 3 years in since the car didn't drive much. Cabin filters is a bit bogus too at that point, you can ask them to do a courtesy deodorization of the filters and that takes care of any ac smell till you get some more miles out of the car.

Dealers will tell you, everything has to be re-placed and that's how they make money.

In a year or so wipe the wipers with a white distilled vinegar-soaked cloth which I hear goes a long way in protecting the rubber but wipers are inexpensive. Yet, the new ones that they have are slightly different from the original factory ones the car comes with. I had to replace mine because one of them broke but soon realized all dealers were selling these new wipers which don't match well with the car as the old ones do.

Good to see more ppl out there, not driving this thing as much hahaha.
Old 09-29-2012, 07:36 AM
  #14  
Member
 
Higgs Boson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 225
Received 14 Likes on 6 Posts
2020 AMG GTR
Mine's a daily driver but I didn't buy it new. I'll be doing a brake flush soon enough.
Old 09-29-2012, 10:56 AM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
ZephyrAMG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Relocated
Posts: 4,418
Received 381 Likes on 237 Posts
2010 Irridium Silver MB C63 AMG Sedan
I just had "B1" done, in effect...but skipped out on wipers, brake fluid flush, and in cabin filter. Didn't need them with my mileage and driving habits. Basically and oil change and I deleted the dash code myself with help from this forum. I'll do that stuff in a year.

I agree with you on all your points. Glad they took care of you. Funny you tipped $50 (????!!) and I bought my SM and ST Venti Mochas....lolol. Whose over board or lacking here...me or you??!! LOLOL...

Glad to know the beast is up to date.
Old 09-29-2012, 11:48 AM
  #16  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
black-clk500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,021
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
'14 911S (garage queen) '13 X3 (family hauler)
Originally Posted by ZephyrAMG
I just had "B1" done, in effect...but skipped out on wipers, brake fluid flush, and in cabin filter. Didn't need them with my mileage and driving habits. Basically and oil change and I deleted the dash code myself with help from this forum. I'll do that stuff in a year.

I agree with you on all your points. Glad they took care of you. Funny you tipped $50 (????!!) and I bought my SM and ST Venti Mochas....lolol. Whose over board or lacking here...me or you??!! LOLOL...

Glad to know the beast is up to date.
Thanks Zephyr! I definitely could have waited on the brake flush and the cabin filter (for sure), but I guess I'm a sucker for overkill

Yes, I always tip my service techs $50, I request the same two guys for everything for the car and I'm a firm believer in building a relationship with the guys who work on my car (or any services for that matter). I usually tip my service advisor a $50 too, but he was on vacation this week, so I got a different SA, and she was mediocre.

My car is pulled up to the window spot for service and I can watch the service up close, I enjoy that very much. I actually went into the shop a couple times and chatted with the tech while my car was up in the air. We were shooting the $h!t for a good 10 mins and we talked about the m156 engine and what he sees in the shop for problems. They've done 7-8 head bolt rebuilds already! He said one head was completely busted off and gone.

My tech asked me if I drive the car hard, I said "yeah, she might only have 8000 miles, but they're all hard miles."

Last edited by black-clk500; 09-29-2012 at 11:51 AM.
Old 09-28-2015, 03:23 PM
  #17  
Newbie
 
waterbilly's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
E350
I'm going to do my brake fluid flush can I use any type of brake fluid?
Old 09-28-2015, 08:31 PM
  #18  
Super Member
 
looney100's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 746
Received 26 Likes on 21 Posts
None
Originally Posted by waterbilly
I'm going to do my brake fluid flush can I use any type of brake fluid?
Check your owners manual MB 331.0 likely
Old 05-19-2019, 04:40 PM
  #19  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Surge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 1,801
Received 401 Likes on 279 Posts
W463 G550 / C190 GTC //prev: W204 C63 507 / R170
Originally Posted by Roswell
I passed on the brake fluid change as well. My dealership looked at my fluid and my low-mileage car (5 000km at the time of service B lol) & told me to wait next year no problem. Some members will say otherwise though, but I'm fine cuz it's only my week-end car.. an extra year wont affect my brake that much.
This is not correct. Because brake fluid absorbs moisture from the air, you want to change it every 2 years, even if you didn’t drive it at all. This is one of those things that is NOT over-estimated.
Moisture in the system not only reduces braking effectiveness (makes the pedal feel more spongy), it accelerates corrosion of the caliper pistons.
You can flush the fluid yourself. It takes 15 min with under $100 in tools.
The following 2 users liked this post by Surge:
AMGator (05-21-2019), BLKROKT (05-20-2019)
Old 05-20-2019, 09:43 AM
  #20  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
BLKROKT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 8,044
Received 2,810 Likes on 1,664 Posts
2012 P31 C63 Coupe Trackrat, 2019 GLE63S Coupe Beast
Originally Posted by Surge
This is not correct. Because brake fluid absorbs moisture from the air, you want to change it every 2 years, even if you didn’t drive it at all. This is one of those things that is NOT over-estimated.
Moisture in the system not only reduces braking effectiveness (makes the pedal feel more spongy), it accelerates corrosion of the caliper pistons.
You can flush the fluid yourself. It takes 15 min with under $100 in tools.
Thanks for taking the time to point that out and correct the thread. Cuts down on the search confusion in the future.
Old 05-21-2019, 11:53 AM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!

 
Yuille36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 6,008
Received 514 Likes on 431 Posts
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
I flush my brake calipers every two years regarding of the mileage, but I **** about these things.
Old 05-21-2019, 12:22 PM
  #22  
Super Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Crya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Napa
Posts: 959
Received 167 Likes on 112 Posts
2009 C63 P30
Originally Posted by Yuille36
I flush my brake calipers every two years regarding of the mileage, but I **** about these things.
About to do mine solo for the first time. Indy performed for me last year. Could anyone be a gentleman and advise how many liters of 331.0 I should have on hand and about how many to dump into the power bleeder reservoir?
Old 05-21-2019, 01:09 PM
  #23  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jasonoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 5,219
Received 1,572 Likes on 925 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
1L is more than enough.
The following users liked this post:
Crya (05-21-2019)
Old 05-22-2019, 11:18 AM
  #24  
MBWorld Fanatic!

 
Yuille36's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Alexandria, VA
Posts: 6,008
Received 514 Likes on 431 Posts
07 E63 AMG, 10 C63 AMG, 07 E63 Designo, 07 E350, 09 C300, 07 C230
Originally Posted by Crya
About to do mine solo for the first time. Indy performed for me last year. Could anyone be a gentleman and advise how many liters of 331.0 I should have on hand and about how many to dump into the power bleeder reservoir?
Basically, your entire brake system holds about 0.63L so a 1 liter can should be sufficient for flushing and then topping off the system.
I purchased two cans, which was way more then I need. But at least I will have some for another brake flush in 2021.
The following users liked this post:
Surge (05-22-2019)
Old 05-22-2019, 12:39 PM
  #25  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Jasonoff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Kitchener, ON
Posts: 5,219
Received 1,572 Likes on 925 Posts
2010 C63 AMG
Originally Posted by Yuille36
I purchased two cans, which was way more then I need. But at least I will have some for another brake flush in 2021.
That fluid will have absorbed water by then. Once it's opened, the shelf life very short.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Brake fluid flush??



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:53 PM.