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This year’s AMG GT sales are up — way up!

Old 07-13-2019, 02:52 PM
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This year’s AMG GT sales are up — way up!

Based on this report:

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...rcedes-amg-gt/

Last year 1,525 AMG GT’s were sold in the US. In just the first 6 months of this year, 1,858 have been sold!

That's quite a jump in sales. Is this due to orders for the refreshed 2020 model? Bodes well for the brand.
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Originally Posted by DrWilly
Based on this report:

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales...rcedes-amg-gt/

Last year 1,525 AMG GT’s were sold in the US. In just the first 6 months of this year, 1,858 have been sold!

That's quite a jump in sales. Is this due to orders for the refreshed 2020 model? Bodes well for the brand.
Order numbers are not reflected in closed sales numbers. I suppose it is possible that dealers could be attempting to clear out the remaining 2019 models before the 2020 are reflected in the sold category with better deals on 2019s thereby increasing the first half sales numbers.
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Originally Posted by MTrauman
Order numbers are not reflected in closed sales numbers.
I assume these sales figures are orders from the manufacturer. But eventually they all get sold to customers.

What’s remarkable is the monthly sales for each of the months of March, April, May, and June 2019 have exceed all monthly sales since the car was introduced!

I’d say the 2020 refresh is modest, mostly the interior. Maybe it’s the economy.
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I assume these sales figures are orders from the manufacturer. But eventually they all get sold to customers.

What’s remarkable is the monthly sales for each of the months of March, April, May, and June 2019 have exceed all monthly sales since the car was introduced!

I’d say the 2020 refresh is modest, mostly the interior. Maybe it’s the economy.
Based on what I understand these are numbers that are reported are at the dealer level not what the manufacturer sells to the dealer at wholesale prices so I believe your assumptions may be incorrect.
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It’s because more people have seen them on the road.
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It’s because more people have seen them on the road.

It helps sales of the GT models by MB using them at the AMG Driving Academy as the main vehicle for the road track. I drove the GT models for the first time at the Advanced AMG Academy sessions at Road Atlanta in May. Enjoyed taking the GTR to about 145 mph on the track.
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Originally Posted by MTrauman
Based on what I understand these are numbers that are reported are at the dealer level not what the manufacturer sells to the dealer at wholesale prices so I believe your assumptions may be incorrect.
???

I was simply wondering why AMG GT sales are up so much, wherever they are occurring. Your sales figures confirm this. Overall MB sales year-to-date are down 7.2%. AMG GT sales year-to-date are up 103%.

Seems unusual for a car car has been around for 4+ years without much external change since introduction, essentially same horsepower figures, mild interior update. Why the sales spurt?
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The GT was not readily available. You needed to find a dealer with an open allocation. When I ordered my I had to wait 4 months for an open allocation just to order my car. I put my order in March, received allocation in July- August, got the car in January. There were NO GTs in my dealer to look at, test drive.

I bought mine sight unseen . Never touched one before plunking down $189k for my GTS .

People didnt even know what it was it was when they saw it. Since I’ve been parading my loud, bright yellow car up and down, I’m sure a few others have seen and lusted after it and purchased one. Two of my colleagues bought one after I got mine.

Exposure, advertising , recognition and increased production led to increased sales.
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My opinion - there is one reason for this. The Porsche 992 is not well received, and people who would buy it are looking for a different (German) place to go. So they are buying the AMG GT.
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@thecutter64 So you’re saying production had been low (whether intentional or not) which restricted sales, but now productions levels have doubled after all these years? Hell of a way to run a company! LOL.
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My opinion - there is one reason for this. The Porsche 992 is not well received, and people who would buy it are looking for a different (German) place to go. So they are buying the AMG GT.
That’s a good thought and describes me. I plan on upgrading my ‘09 SL550 in a couple of years at retirement. The AMG GT Roadster is much more desirable than the 992 Cab in styling, sound, performance, and exclusivity.

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@thecutter64 So you’re saying production had been low (whether intentional or not) which restricted sales, but now productions levels have doubled after all these years? Hell of a way to run a company! LOL.

Keep in mind these are hand built cars not mass production cars. People assemble these cars not machines like most models. That also has kept production numbers down.
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Are these numbers skewed by the inclusion the AMG GT53 and 63s? Do the 4 doors count in the numbers?
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Keep in mind these are hand built cars not mass production cars. People assemble these cars not machines like most models. That also has kept production numbers down.
To this point, here is a video with some brief looks at the GT assembly line.
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Are these numbers skewed by the inclusion the AMG GT53 and 63s? Do the 4 doors count in the numbers?
THIS - I think you're right on. Dealers here in Toronto, Canada area are having a tough time moving the GTC and even GTR - second hand sales have been very slow for all GT cars, market is flooded with most sitting for months. Just local GTA I count 30+ 2019 cars amongst the dealerships here just sitting. Most have sat since last year waiting for a buyer. With the 2020's rolling in there will be massive write downs come late summer early fall.
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THIS - I think you're right on. Dealers here in Toronto, Canada area are having a tough time moving the GTC and even GTR - second hand sales have been very slow for all GT cars, market is flooded with most sitting for months. Just local GTA I count 30+ 2019 cars amongst the dealerships here just sitting. Most have sat since last year waiting for a buyer. With the 2020's rolling in there will be massive write downs come late summer early fall.
Yeah I can tell you the new 2018s/2019s on dealers lots have been sitting there for a while. I checked the market for the last 10 weeks and have done VIN decoding on several models and I noticed there are quite a few cars that have over 1 year since delivery. Ended up getting my father a rather significant deal on a new 2018 GT C roadster. Imo, now is the best time to start negotiation on these cars
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Yeah I can tell you the new 2018s/2019s on dealers lots have been sitting there for a while. I checked the market for the last 10 weeks and have done VIN decoding on several models and I noticed there are quite a few cars that have over 1 year since delivery. Ended up getting my father a rather significant deal on a new 2018 GT C roadster. Imo, now is the best time to start negotiation on these cars
Likewise, got a great deal on a new 2018. Lots of them sitting at dealerships. Dealers must have big pressure to move them as not only are 2019s on the lots, but 2020s are being delivered now too.
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Not seeing this kind of high inventory, at least around the NY/LI area.
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Originally Posted by ChargedMB
Yeah I can tell you the new 2018s/2019s on dealers lots have been sitting there for a while. I checked the market for the last 10 weeks and have done VIN decoding on several models and I noticed there are quite a few cars that have over 1 year since delivery. Ended up getting my father a rather significant deal on a new 2018 GT C roadster. Imo, now is the best time to start negotiation on these cars
Start negotiating now and let them know you are serious and interested but for the right price. The best deals will be had on new 2019 cars next spring.

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Start negotiating now and let them know you are serious and interested but for the right price. The best deals will be had on new 2019 cars next spring - those that are remaining will get written down big. The 2018s which were left over this past spring at dealers were cleared out at $55k off list. At those prices no reason to buy second hand.
Next spring? Just buy a lightly used one now . Same reduction with gentle break in .

Next year, something bigger and better will be out . Maybe a Tesla Roadster
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Is this just a Canada thing?
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Is this just a Canada thing?
Which part? I live in New York. There is some inventory but the “ old” ones have been long sold . Supply and demand , I guess
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There are great deals to be had NOW on 2019 GTC and GTR

At all Toronto Stores. 2020’s have already landed early.


Originally Posted by big_willy
THIS - I think you're right on. Dealers here in Toronto, Canada area are having a tough time moving the GTC and even GTR - second hand sales have been very slow for all GT cars, market is flooded with most sitting for months. Just local GTA I count 30+ 2019 cars amongst the dealerships here just sitting. Most have sat since last year waiting for a buyer. With the 2020's rolling in there will be massive write downs come late summer early fall.
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Originally Posted by DriveAMG
At all Toronto Stores. 2020’s have already landed early.
Yes and more reason the 2019's won't move. 2020 models have worthwhile upgrades, unlike 2018 to 2019 model year changes which was basically nothing.

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