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Old 10-27-2022, 08:15 PM
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Modalworks Stage 2 Turbo Sale, now thru Oct 31st

The Modalworks MW2 turbos are on sale now! Get the best bang for your buck turbo for the M177 platform

- Upgraded billet 6+6 compressor wheel
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- Compressor cover and turbine housing precision CNC machined
- Massive flow potential, 35+ psi capable
- Lightening quick spools (comparable to Pure 900)
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What numbers are you guys seeing on those with just catless DPs, intake, and a 93 tune? I'm guessing 680-ish WHP and 680-ish WTQ?

From the dyno, looks like the torque curve isn't that different from stock, so daily stop-and-go driving wouldn't be horrendous. Are these designed to compete with the Pure Turbo 1000s?
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What numbers are you guys seeing on those with just catless DPs, intake, and a 93 tune? I'm guessing 680-ish WHP and 680-ish WTQ?

From the dyno, looks like the torque curve isn't that different from stock, so daily stop-and-go driving wouldn't be horrendous. Are these designed to compete with the Pure Turbo 1000s?
Spool up is definitely quick, not laggy at all. The power level is really going to vary based on the tune. What is shown on our site is more or less on an off the shelf tune. We will have revised numbers later this month once our shop car is back together. With that being said, we have a few customers running intake/dp on stock fueling doing 700-730hp.

Some of the important things to look for when shopping for a turbo are flow potential, spool time, and build quality/reliability. We think we are killing it on all three of those. Being able to push 35psi will support big power with supporting mods/tuner.

The compressor wheel and turbine wheel are both upgraded, so similar to the pure setup, though ours are considerably more affordable.
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Who tuned your dyno example?
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Who tuned your dyno example?
The tuner didn’t get a chance to properly dial in the car, so I don’t think it’s fair to say at this time. The tune was a generic stage 3 file targeting 28psi and was not customized yet.
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The tuner didn’t get a chance to properly dial in the car, so I don’t think it’s fair to say at this time. The tune was a generic stage 3 file targeting 28psi and was not customized yet.
*****So, the tune was designed for 93 octane gas plus Methanol injection or other octane enhancement? Or, are you targeting 28 psi and getting the numbers on your dyno sheet provided with only pump gas? Those are remarkably high dyno numbers if on pump gas with your turbos.

My bone stock C63s would see boost levels of 17.5psi boost or so on pump gas. The Pure 900 and 1000's can flow some serious air at higher boost levels but to take advantage of their full potential requires fueling modifications including octane enhancement, and exhaust work (DP), etc.. along with some time on the dyno to dial everything in safely.

28 psi sounds like a lot of boost on pump gas, if that is what is being run unless I am missing something from the posts like other modifications to fueling, etc..
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*****So, the tune was designed for 93 octane gas plus Methanol injection or other octane enhancement? Or, are you targeting 28 psi and getting the numbers on your dyno sheet provided with only pump gas? Those are remarkably high dyno numbers if on pump gas with your turbos.

My bone stock C63s would see boost levels of 17.5psi boost or so on pump gas. The Pure 900 and 1000's can flow some serious air at higher boost levels but to take advantage of their full potential requires fueling modifications including octane enhancement, and exhaust work (DP), etc.. along with some time on the dyno to dial everything in safely.

28 psi sounds like a lot of boost on pump gas, if that is what is being run unless I am missing something from the posts like other modifications to fueling, etc..
Good questions, it’s a 93oct tune and 50/50 methanol was sprayed during the dyno. The tune does not intentionally account for the methanol injection. The car also has our intakes and catless downpipes.

During some more recent tune revisions we decided to push the turbos and we’re able to log 35psi on our car spraying 100% methanol. Will have more dynos soon.

In our turbo product launch thread we go through more of the flow details on these turbos. We are logging a very responsive turbo that can move a significant amount of air. In short, the logs show they spool as fast as pure 900 and match or exceed pure 1000 flow.

sale is still active, 2 sets left.

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Will this sale be happening this year at all?
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What would happen if you swapped these turbos in and run STOCK boost levels without a tune?
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What would happen if you swapped these turbos in and run STOCK boost levels without a tune?
Not much, you would make a little more power maybe, but get more lag compared to oem turbo. So why would you bother ?
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From the dyno, looks like the torque curve isn't that different from stock, so daily stop-and-go driving wouldn't be horrendous. Are these designed to compete with the Pure Turbo 1000s?

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I'm running the mw2 turbos, and have done about 6k miles on them. They are savage!
Tuner had to dial them back a bit as they were spooling to fast causing the box to slip in low rpm,

Just waiting for them to do a sale on the mw intakes lol

Top company to deal with. Initially had an order for the stage 3 bb turbos but sadly they are still.in development,

Everything was smooth and the transaction was perfect

Only thing I could day negativity and it's a tiny tiny thing, is the small metal plate what holds the oem seriel number for the turbos is removed on the mw2 turbos leaving a blank square, would be a nice touch to have a small MW plate in its place. But literally that's the only thing I can find.

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I'm running the mw2 turbos, and have done about 6k miles on them. They are savage!
Tuner had to dial them back a bit as they were spooling to fast causing the box to slip in low rpm,

Just waiting for them to do a sale on the mw intakes lol

Top company to deal with. Initially had an order for the stage 3 bb turbos but sadly they are still.in development,

Everything was smooth and the transaction was perfect

Only thing I could day negativity and it's a tiny tiny thing, is the small metal plate what holds the oem seriel number for the turbos is removed on the mw2 turbos leaving a blank square, would be a nice touch to have a small MW plate in its place. But literally that's the only thing I can find.

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Do you know what type of numbers you’re seeing? HP, Torque
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Do you know what type of numbers you’re seeing? HP, Torque

No, but I managed a 4.9 100 to 200
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No, but I managed a 4.9 100 to 200
what other mods you have done?
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From the dyno, looks like the torque curve isn't that different from stock, so daily stop-and-go driving wouldn't be horrendous. Are these designed to compete with the Pure Turbo 1000s?
Check out the second message in this thread, it contains data comparing pure 900/1000 to the MW2. The goal was to make a very streetable turbo with as much top end as possible. They definitely spool up quickly and can push flow heavily into high RPM.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-c63s-...big-power.html
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what other mods you have done?
fuel pumps, exhaust, gearbox and ecu map, intake and now got stage 1 clutches on order
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fuel pumps, exhaust, gearbox and ecu map, intake and now got stage 1 clutches on order
You got a serious build going. Care to list manufactures that u worked with? I might do something similar.
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You got a serious build going. Care to list manufactures that u worked with? I might do something similar.

Modal works for the turbos
Morendi did the mapping
stage one red clutches on order from i thin the company is raybestos ????

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Modal works for the turbos
Morendi did the mapping
stage one red clutches on order from i thin the company is raybestos ????
who are you using for fueling?
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Highly recommend these turbos!
what numbers are you seeing with these and what other supporting mods?
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who are you using for fueling?
Drilled lines and E63 pumps with 99
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