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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by m4xm1l10n
I did 3mm longer than the stock links in the front and about 2mm shorter in the rear . i have little less than 1" drop on my car but i'm thinking on going lower a bit .
Max,

Thanks again for your input.

Can i trouble you to take a (4) corner measurement from ground to edge of each fender? I'm looking for someeone with 295 - 25 - 20" tires and is lowered like your.

If you can forward each corner dimension so i can compare would be fantastic. If to much trouble, don't worry.

Thabnks again
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Old May 4, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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I can do that , but i don't think that would explain anything . My car is lowered a hair less than 1" to be more precise . And I'm running 285/30/20
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Old May 4, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
Just wondering...

How much does the car raise (OEM) every time you press the button?

I am trying to figure out how much I want to lower my car exactly. (The goal is have the middle setting close to the factory low setting at most).
Mine at first setting ( 1 red light ) it goes back to the car original high . once on 2nd setting it goes up more , but not as much as it did before the links .
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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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u can go a lot lower, slam that ****. my SL is slammed and its only bumpy at slow speeds, like under 10 mph. the ride is good just gotta be very careful!
lowrida stylez for sure! ...hittin' da switch on dem lolo's
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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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Old May 4, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by m4xm1l10n
Mine at first setting ( 1 red light ) it goes back to the car original high . once on 2nd setting it goes up more , but not as much as it did before the links .
You have a one inch drop all around right? Or is the rear a touch more then the front?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 01:16 PM
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You have a one inch drop all around right? Or is the rear a touch more then the front?
front is lower a tinny bit but my car is not slammed at all .


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Old May 4, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Nice! That was the 3 turn Front/2 turns rear setup right?
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Old May 4, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
Nice! That was the 3 turn Front/2 turns rear setup right?
you mean 3 turns from the stock link size ? i did 3MM longer than the stock ones on the front and 2mm shorter on back and it dropped almost a full 1" , but im thinking lower now .
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Old May 5, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by m4xm1l10n
you mean 3 turns from the stock link size ? i did 3MM longer than the stock ones on the front and 2mm shorter on back and it dropped almost a full 1" , but im thinking lower now .
Thanks for the correction.

Last thing...have you tried high speed driving in that setting? Do you raise by one for driving on the highway? I don't want problems at 100+.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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no way man it's fine i never raise my vehicle , and my drop is not that much eider . Here is a few pictures on the freeway .






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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by m4xm1l10n
you mean 3 turns from the stock link size ? i did 3MM longer than the stock ones on the front and 2mm shorter on back and it dropped almost a full 1" , but im thinking lower now .
Nice i got my link and going to do it this weekend. Also I am running 305/25/20 in rear, if i use your setting do you think i will be fine.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Nice i got my link and going to do it this weekend. Also I am running 305/25/20 in rear, if i use your setting do you think i will be fine.
Should be OK cuz the 305 is big man , i think it would rub w/out the drop anyway
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Old May 5, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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looks like your running 245/35/20 in the front. Will 255/30/20 rub?

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Old May 5, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by playdo
looks like your running 245/35/20 in the front. Will 255/30/20 rub?

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No. It has less sidewall.
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Old May 5, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Max, what is your tiresize Front and rear?
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Old May 5, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
Max, what is your tiresize Front and rear?
245/35/20 F
285/30/20 R

Yokohama S-drive
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Old May 5, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by playdo
looks like your running 245/35/20 in the front. Will 255/30/20 rub?

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No it will not , It's also the other option from 245/35/20
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Old May 5, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by m4xm1l10n
245/35/20 F
285/30/20 R

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Why 245 and not 255? Or is your car a 500?

EDIT: I just ordered a set of links

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Old May 5, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
Why 245 and not 255? Or is your car a 500?

EDIT: I just ordered a set of links
Doesn't really make a big difference going 255/ 30 but i would be sacrificing the side wall height witch makes a difference when u hit a pot hole

245/35/20 & 285/30/20 gives you a impressive ride quality , handles pot holes , rides smooth and looks aggressive , for example most of the 911 turbo , wide body etc with 295/315 on the rears only runs 225/235 on fronts
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Old May 5, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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It makes a huge difference, less so if your car is a 500. (Not in a bad way, they were setup up differently then the 55/600/65)

As for the Turbo comparison: That's because its suspension was setup differently...namely with a more aggressive rear balance AND it is Rear engined/biased. We are front engined with a much gentler F/R suspension balance. Apples-Oranges.

In short, your setup would worsen understeer in cars already prone to a lot of it.

This is why I was so interested in your front and rear drops each alone, as that will change the balance too. Too much rear relative to the front will make the car just awful to steer (again in IMHO), but it appears you got a great balance setup.

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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
It makes a huge difference, less so if your car is a 500. (Not in a bad way, they were setup up differently then the 55/600/65)

As for the Turbo comparison: That's because its suspension was setup differently...namely with a more aggressive rear balance AND it is Rear engined/biased. We are front engined with a much gentler F/R suspension balance. Apples-Oranges.

In short, your setup would worsen understeer in cars already prone to a lot of it.

This is why I was so interested in your front and rear drops each alone, as that will change the balance too. Too much rear relative to the front will make the car just awful to steer (again in IMHO), but it appears you got a great balance setup.
I have the SL500 and If I'm not wrong and please someone correct if I'm wrong I think they have the same suspension set up (ABC) between the SL600, 500 & 55 . And also why isn't the SL55 equipped with wider tires than the SL500/600 ? on 18" option all cars are running 255/40/18 & 285/35/18 including the non sport package with 18" wheels

My car is 9MM lower than stock F & R

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Old May 6, 2009 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Auraraptor
Do you raise by one for driving on the highway?
Unless I'm mistaken, the car ignores the height settings button over 55MPH -- it goes to the bottom position at that point.
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Old May 6, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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A few points:

1) SL55 runs ABC just like 500 but the valving is more aggressive; 55 suspension parts (namely ABC struts and not the same p/n as 500 or 600)

2) both 55 and 500 run 255 F and 285 R on 18's stock; that's a function of the weight of the car and the load applications from the chassis. A 911 can run a much narrower front tire due to weight and brake bias and chassis/engine config; this does not translate to the R230 chassis

3) The SL will understeer even with a wider front tire; reducing the width of the front tire can make it understeer more on corner entry.

- I am running 245/35-19 F on 8.5" rim and 285/30-19 on a 10.5" rim ... my next choice will be stay with 245 or go to 255 in front and go to a 295 or 305 in the rear once I do the tire height calculations for front to rear compliance
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Old May 6, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunir
A few points:

1) SL55 runs ABC just like 500 but the valving is more aggressive; 55 suspension parts (namely ABC struts and not the same p/n as 500 or 600)

2) both 55 and 500 run 255 F and 285 R on 18's stock; that's a function of the weight of the car and the load applications from the chassis. A 911 can run a much narrower front tire due to weight and brake bias and chassis/engine config; this does not translate to the R230 chassis

3) The SL will understeer even with a wider front tire; reducing the width of the front tire can make it understeer more on corner entry.

- I am running 245/35-19 F on 8.5" rim and 285/30-19 on a 10.5" rim ... my next choice will be stay with 245 or go to 255 in front and go to a 295 or 305 in the rear once I do the tire height calculations for front to rear compliance
I have heard the programing differs as well.

What is your rear offset? ET30? I am trying to figure out what rear dimensions I want to build.

Here is the specs I have done for my setup (I may have to do a 20in rear if they don't make my wheel):
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