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mbsl550.19 05-17-2019 11:26 AM

New car
 
Hi,
Just bought a 2019 SL 550. Great car. A couple of quick questions, where car I buy a car jack or
is there a how to jack up that car somewhere? Also is there a good place to buy MB parts?

thx.

Utopia Texas 05-17-2019 12:19 PM

I carry a small scissor jack and a few 2x4 blocks of wood. Don’t forget to get the proper sized collapsible lug wrench also. No use in being able to jack up the car but not get the wheel off! :)

Keon 05-17-2019 01:12 PM

Just buy a TIREFIT kit that fits under the trunk floor. No tools needed!

mbsl550.19 05-17-2019 02:45 PM

So I have run flat tires and a jack is now not included in the car, not sure why. So I need/want a jack mostly
to take my tires off occasionally and check the brake pads and clean the wheels. When you say scissors jack
there lots of different types, actually looks like the MB one is half a jack. Looks like a special type of lift is needed
that touches the car. The SL 550 has a small plate that is removable where you put the jack.

Streamliner 05-17-2019 05:45 PM

They sell the genuine MB R231 jack & tool kit on eBay, brand new.

mbsl550.19 05-17-2019 06:41 PM

Thx still new to the MB world and was wondering exactly what jack I needed. I am asking the dealer to
provide one to me for free, did not know the car came without regardless of the fact it has run flat tires.

Wolfman 05-17-2019 08:28 PM

If you want to use the jack simply to take off tires occasionally, I'd rather spend the same amount of money on a proper floor jack. The last one we had was in a R230 SL and it was usable only in emergency situations.

mbsl550.19 05-17-2019 08:59 PM

I agree I have a nice floor jack, the question is how does it attach to the frame to jack it up. Like on a Porsche it
had a small home. Is the frame flat under that flap you need to remove at the jack point?

mbsl550.19 05-17-2019 09:05 PM

Do you need a tool like this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Be...wAAMXQVERStcXQ

Wolfman 05-18-2019 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7758189)

That’s exactly the one we use. Works for nearly all current MB’s and BMW’s except the AMG GT’s.

mbsl550.19 05-18-2019 05:37 PM

Thx Wolfman. After looking at it a lot closer I thought the jack needed go where the small plate was on the rocker panel.
But apparently the real jack point is just right behind it in the frame. I ordered one already from Amazon.

Now if I could get those cooling seats to work a lot better I'd be happier here in FL.

Wolfman 05-18-2019 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7758641)
Thx Wolfman. After looking at it a lot closer I thought the jack needed go where the small plate was on the rocker panel.
But apparently the real jack point is just right behind it in the frame. I ordered one already from Amazon.

Now if I could get those cooling seats to work a lot better I'd be happier here in FL.

Those jackpots and pucks are no-brainers. You snap it in and then just roll the floor jack into the right position. Nothing can slip or get damaged. Just make sure the adapter is properly plugged in.

Re. the cooling, there is none. MB seats are only vented, not cooled. But the fans are bi-directional so they pull air and push air. This is why you can turn on the vent and heat function at the same time. That accelerates the seat heating...

mbsl550.19 05-18-2019 08:53 PM

Good point, my mistake thought ventilated meant cooled. Marketing must have stayed up all night for that one.

Yeah Porsche has pucks also.

Streamliner 05-18-2019 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7758521)
That’s exactly the one we use. Works for nearly all current MB’s and BMW’s except the AMG GT’s.

SOOOOOOO, you have already found reason to jack up your new car???:)

mbsl550.19 05-18-2019 09:42 PM

Yes. I wanted to take the wheels off, clean them, look at the brake calipers, shocks, etc.
Like to know how things are built I guess.

Wolfman 05-18-2019 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 7758790)
SOOOOOOO, you have already found reason to jack up your new car???:)

Ha! I have indeed been thinking of lowering the car a bit with coil overs and swapping wheels but am reminded that my wife's back has priority over cosmetic improvements ;)
But it is such a well-riding sports car, apart from the "AMG firmness" that you would appreciate.

We have the benefit of the car lift so it's easy to get below.

Streamliner 05-18-2019 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7758793)
Yes. I wanted to take the wheels off, clean them, look at the brake calipers, shocks, etc.
Like to know how things are built I guess.

Well, I was quoting and referring to our friend Wolfman, but that’s OK. Sounds like you and he are a lot alike. AND, it is currently cocktail hour in California. Cheers!:D

Streamliner 05-18-2019 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7758794)
Ha! I have indeed been thinking of lowering the car a bit with coil overs and swapping wheels but am reminded that my wife's back has priority over cosmetic improvements ;)
But it is such a well-riding sports car, apart from the "AMG firmness" that you would appreciate.

We have the benefit of the car lift so it's easy to get below.


“Car lift?” Please explain.

Wolfman 05-18-2019 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7758793)
Yes. I wanted to take the wheels off, clean them, look at the brake calipers, shocks, etc.
Like to know how things are built I guess.

If you go that far to clean wheels I suggest to swap the factory brake pads with ones from racingbrake.com. The factory ones are brake dust factories ;)
The wheels looks dirty after 15 miles

Wolfman 05-18-2019 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 7758796)
“Car lift?” Please explain.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8283b37926.jpg

Streamliner 05-18-2019 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7758797)
If you go that far to clean wheels I suggest to swap the factory brake pads with ones from racingbrake.com. The factory ones are brake dust factories ;)
The wheels looks dirty after 15 miles

You know, I have been wondering how the crazies we have here in La La Land—California—have not figured out just how much brake dust is getting expelled into the atmosphere each day, by MB & other cars & trucks. I’m sure it will come up shortly and the cities and counties will add a few more bike lanes to try and compensate for it. Surely there must be legions of engineers working on trying to invent a dustless disc—or other type—of brake, don’t you think?

Streamliner 05-18-2019 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7758798)

WHOAAAAAA! So, do I have to call you MISTER Wolfman from now on?:)
VERY, very cool set up! Congratulations!

mbsl550.19 05-18-2019 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 7758795)
Well, I was quoting and referring to our friend Wolfman, but that’s OK. Sounds like you and he are a lot alike. AND, it is currently cocktail hour in California. Cheers!:D

Ha that was funny, I thought you meant me.Yeah I've had the car about a week and my wife caught me looking online at ways to improve
it. She just laughed. Yeah like coil overs and better brakes, better intercooler for a start. Hard to find a lot of technical information about the
motor on this car.

mbsl550.19 05-18-2019 10:07 PM


Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 7758800)
You know, I have been wondering how the crazies we have here in La La Land—California—have not figured out just how much brake dust is getting expelled into the atmosphere each day, by MB & other cars & trucks. I’m sure it will come up shortly and the cities and counties will add a few more bike lanes to try and compensate for it. Surely there must be legions of engineers working on trying to invent a dustless disc—or other type—of brake, don’t you think?

True my last car a Porsche had ceramic brakes, zero brake dust. I am surprised that most pads expel that much dust.

eddieo45 05-19-2019 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7758189)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...181be26dd0.jpg


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7758521)
That’s exactly the one we use. Works for nearly all current MB’s and BMW’s except the AMG GT’s.

hey, does this mean that my neighborhood tire shop - where they wheel floor jacks around an open-air lot, and they've jacked up my W209s, W211, W203s and W202 - won't be able to jack up my R231 without this "puck"??

Streamliner 05-19-2019 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by eddieo45 (Post 7758960)
hey, does this mean that my neighborhood tower shop - where they wheel floor jacks around an open-air lot, and they've jacked up my W209s, W211, W203s and W202 - won't be able to jack up my R231 without this "puck"??

What is a “tower shop?”

MBNUT1 05-19-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 7759017)
What is a “tower shop?”

I'm guessing spell check replaced tire with tower

eddieo45 05-20-2019 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 7759017)
What is a “tower shop?”


Originally Posted by MBNUT1 (Post 7759026)
I'm guessing spell check replaced tire with tower

stupid Mac always thinks it knows what I want to say better than I do....edited, but the question remains.

Utopia Texas 05-20-2019 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by eddieo45 (Post 7758960)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...181be26dd0.jpg



hey, does this mean that my neighborhood tire shop - where they wheel floor jacks around an open-air lot, and they've jacked up my W209s, W211, W203s and W202 - won't be able to jack up my R231 without this "puck"??

I actually use hockey puck I bought on line for four dollars.....

Wolfman 05-20-2019 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by eddieo45 (Post 7758960)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...181be26dd0.jpg



hey, does this mean that my neighborhood tire shop - where they wheel floor jacks around an open-air lot, and they've jacked up my W209s, W211, W203s and W202 - won't be able to jack up my R231 without this "puck"??

To answer your question; of course they can but these pucks are helpful/needed when you raise a single corner. No damage or marking of the side skirts, undercarriage or potential slippage. Most modern cars have these. Cheap and they work great. Here is where we got our from:
https://www.reverselogic.us/jack-pads.html

mbsl550.19 05-20-2019 04:59 PM

So got the puck for the jack. So the rectangle part only goes into the specified location on the
car about maybe 1/2 an inch. Is that how it's supposed to work?

Wolfman 05-21-2019 02:52 AM


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7759895)
So got the puck for the jack. So the rectangle part only goes into the specified location on the
car about maybe 1/2 an inch. Is that how it's supposed to work?

Give or take. It just needs to snap in straight. The pressure from the jack will do the rest...

eddieo45 05-21-2019 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Utopia Texas (Post 7759612)
I actually use hockey puck I bought on line for four dollars.....


How does a hockey puck work without the rectangular part? (I'm a product of '70s Boston; I have plenty of hockey pucks....)

Wolfman 05-21-2019 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by eddieo45 (Post 7760303)
How does a hockey puck work without the rectangular part? (I'm a product of '70s Boston; I have plenty of hockey pucks....)

If you are a DYI guy, don't be cheap and get the right stuff. The rectangular part is what makes it non-slip.

Utopia Texas 05-21-2019 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7760484)
If you are a DYI guy, don't be cheap and get the right stuff. The rectangular part is what makes it non-slip.

Thanks for the advise. Don’t know how I made it to 65 YO and owned a business with 685 employees in three countries without your help...... :)

Wolfman 05-21-2019 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by Utopia Texas (Post 7760509)
Thanks for the advise. Don’t know how I made it to 65 YO and owned a business with 685 employees in three countries without your help...... :)

Not sure what one has to do with the other but I am happy for your success ;)
Of course you can put the car on bricks as well. I spent $40 to reduce the risk for damage. All a question of personal comfort level...

Utopia Texas 05-21-2019 02:52 PM

Here is the current car I am working on at the present time......
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...81782efd4.jpeg

Wolfman 05-21-2019 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by Utopia Texas (Post 7760648)
Here is the current car I am working on at the present time......
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...81782efd4.jpeg

Hockey puck or forklift :)

eddieo45 05-21-2019 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7759666)
Here is where we got our from:
https://www.reverselogic.us/jack-pads.html


Originally Posted by mbsl550.19 (Post 7759895)
So got the puck for the jack. So the rectangle part only goes into the specified location on the
car about maybe 1/2 an inch. Is that how it's supposed to work?



Originally Posted by Wolfman (Post 7760484)
If you are a [DIY] guy, don't be cheap and get the right stuff. The rectangular part is what makes it non-slip.

oh, I agree Wolfman; looking at the photo (below) at the website you shared it looks like the rectangular part is the most important part. I'm not sure how a hockey puck would work. I'm not a DIY type with regard to wheels and tires but as I stated before, my tire shop uses floor jacks in an outdoor lot. That website sells this item for the W203, W211 and W209 as well, all models I've had tire work done on at this shop, all without issues, but given how much lower the SL sits the $40 seems like a good idea....

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b485275bb4.jpg

Utopia Texas 05-21-2019 06:29 PM

For those that don’t want to use a hockey puck for that next oil change.....:)
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...20ec9c57d.jpeg


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