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2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by RonNSoCal
You have to wonder how many potential buyers were reluctant to buy the R231 because the R230 had expensive repair problems. When I bought mine, I was vaguely aware that the R231 was unlikely to have the top issues of the earlier model, but the dealer I bought my three year old SL400 from tried to use the top issues in trying to sell me an expensive maintenance policy before I left with my car. Had I not been in a hurry because my wife had a nail appointment and we were running late, I suppose I should have stood up and demanded we end the transaction at that point. It was like the dealer had admitted to selling me a car with a known defect that was going to cost me thousands of dollars soon. I can only imagine the general manager and the documents guy's verbal exchange that might have ensued.
Don't be so harsh. These cars ARE expensive to repair. And based on my R230, I wanted an extended warranty (they are actually called Vehicle Service Contracts) and they're not cheap. But when a new Vario Roof costs $35,000 and a new trunk assembly costs $18,000, maybe a VSC isn't a bad idea for a used car. However, the VSC I first got was with Fidelity Warranty Services and was $8500! I cancelled that and went with Endurance, another highly rated company, for around $4900. In both cases, I had purchased the very best and most comprehensive plan they had (without maintenance). I had checked with the local MB dealer first about third party VSCs and the service department had good things to say about Fidelity, but that was before I looked into Endurance. All of these service plans have a cancellation clause that allows you to cancel at any time for a full or partial refund. The partial refunds usually include reductions for administrative processing ($50) and any claims that have been paid.
So, shop around and do your own research if you opt to get one of these VSCs.
Then it would obviously be in his interest to promote the newer SL.
There won't be a new SL for me to sell for about 2 years. They are waaaayy down the list on back-order. I love the R231, I think it is a fantastic car but the 232 is better in every way, IMO. I have also been vocal on the forum about models I am not a huge fan of. I may be an employee, but I am not brand myopic.
Last edited by CincyMBGuy; Mar 27, 2022 at 09:47 AM.
I think he knows that he won’t be selling to any members in this thread, he’s just sharing his opinion as he and one other member on MBWorld are the only ones that have been able to experience the R232 while others are stating opinion without any experience.
I appreciate the kind words. I truly am a fan of the R231, I'll probably ****** one up on trade over the summer. In my opinion, without any "ifs", "ands", or "buts", the R232 is a better car in every single applicable manner.
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
I appreciate the kind words. I truly am a fan of the R231, I'll probably ****** one up on trade over the summer. In my opinion, without any "ifs", "ands", or "buts", the R232 is a better car in every single applicable manner.
LOL! I was logged out when I updated my browser and in that status the word "******" appeared as asterisks. I was confused by "I'll probably ****** one up on trade over the summer." until I realized I was logged out.
You have to wonder how many potential buyers were reluctant to buy the R231 because the R230 had expensive repair problems. When I bought mine, I was vaguely aware that the R231 was unlikely to have the top issues of the earlier model, but the dealer I bought my three year old SL400 from tried to use the top issues in trying to sell me an expensive maintenance policy before I left with my car. Had I not been in a hurry because my wife had a nail appointment and we were running late, I suppose I should have stood up and demanded we end the transaction at that point. It was like the dealer had admitted to selling me a car with a known defect that was going to cost me thousands of dollars soon. I can only imagine the general manager and the documents guy's verbal exchange that might have ensued.
I don't think that many at the time. Whoever purchased a new R231 SL also usually purchased new R230 SL new and a lot of issues only showed a couple/few years in.
Don't be so harsh. These cars ARE expensive to repair. And based on my R230, I wanted an extended warranty (they are actually called Vehicle Service Contracts) and they're not cheap. But when a new Vario Roof costs $35,000 and a new trunk assembly costs $18,000, maybe a VSC isn't a bad idea for a used car. However, the VSC I first got was with Fidelity Warranty Services and was $8500! I cancelled that and went with Endurance, another highly rated company, for around $4900. In both cases, I had purchased the very best and most comprehensive plan they had (without maintenance). I had checked with the local MB dealer first about third party VSCs and the service department had good things to say about Fidelity, but that was before I looked into Endurance. All of these service plans have a cancellation clause that allows you to cancel at any time for a full or partial refund. The partial refunds usually include reductions for administrative processing ($50) and any claims that have been paid.
So, shop around and do your own research if you opt to get one of these VSCs.
Not to disparage your recommendation to insure yourself against loss due to the high cost of repairs, but most VSCs will not replace defective or damaged parts/assemblies with new. Not that this is necessary with a used car in most cases, but having read several of these contracts, I have found they may replace with used or remanufactured parts which are a lot less expensive. Most of us would do the same to save money on a major repair, like replacing a whole roof assembly . I agree it is worth shopping around if you are inclined to purchase a VSC, and dealers will often offer a discount when you at first decline to buy one offered at the time of purchase. To me, it seems the dealer offered VSCs give the impression it is the dealer who is insuring you for the repairs rather than a third party vendor. Besides not being up-front about this, they also use the retail prices of repairs with new parts argument (fear factor) without sharing that the VSC company may choose to have used part installed. I am uncomfortable with knowing I have to deal with a third party vendor if I have a problem with my car. While this is the case with your car insurance too, AAA is a well vetted and established player that I have chosen to deal with in the event of a problem.
Not to disparage your recommendation to insure yourself against loss due to the high cost of repairs, but most VSCs will not replace defective or damaged parts/assemblies with new. Not that this is necessary with a used car in most cases, but having read several of these contracts, I have found they may replace with used or remanufactured parts which are a lot less expensive. Most of us would do the same to save money on a major repair, like replacing a whole roof assembly . I agree it is worth shopping around if you are inclined to purchase a VSC, and dealers will often offer a discount when you at first decline to buy one offered at the time of purchase. To me, it seems the dealer offered VSCs give the impression it is the dealer who is insuring you for the repairs rather than a third party vendor. Besides not being up-front about this, they also use the retail prices of repairs with new parts argument (fear factor) without sharing that the VSC company may choose to have used part installed. I am uncomfortable with knowing I have to deal with a third party vendor if I have a problem with my car. While this is the case with your car insurance too, AAA is a well vetted and established player that I have chosen to deal with in the event of a problem.
I see this argument all the time with sellers of auto insurance policies who disparage other insurers who say they have the right to use aftermarket parts, etc for body repair. Here’s the thing - there are no aftermarket or remanufactured parts (for the most part) for Porsches, high-end Mercedes cars, Ferraris etc. We aren’t taking about GM products. So I remain confident OEM parts will be paid for by my “crappy” Geico or State Farm policies that cover my very expensive cars. And I’d rather have a used OEM part that covers a very expensive mechanical repair than nothing at all. And let’s remember that often, aftermarket parts are superior.
I feel like I can handle an insurer or a warranty administrator if a bogus or sub-standard part arrives for use. I’ll deal with them, and so will the installer on my behalf.
The more important consideration, in my opinion, is to check is whether accumulators and pump motors in connection with the hydraulics in the convertible top system and ABC suspension are covered by the aftermarket service contract. I highly doubt it, but I cannot be sure.
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by RonNSoCal
Not to disparage your recommendation to insure yourself against loss due to the high cost of repairs, but most VSCs will not replace defective or damaged parts/assemblies with new. Not that this is necessary with a used car in most cases, but having read several of these contracts, I have found they may replace with used or remanufactured parts which are a lot less expensive. Most of us would do the same to save money on a major repair, like replacing a whole roof assembly . I agree it is worth shopping around if you are inclined to purchase a VSC, and dealers will often offer a discount when you at first decline to buy one offered at the time of purchase. To me, it seems the dealer offered VSCs give the impression it is the dealer who is insuring you for the repairs rather than a third party vendor. Besides not being up-front about this, they also use the retail prices of repairs with new parts argument (fear factor) without sharing that the VSC company may choose to have used part installed. I am uncomfortable with knowing I have to deal with a third party vendor if I have a problem with my car. While this is the case with your car insurance too, AAA is a well vetted and established player that I have chosen to deal with in the event of a problem.
I concur. I was just offering an opinion that automatically dismissing the offer of a VSC may require reconsideration. When I got my 2015 SL400 back in December, the finance manager recommended the VSC. Because of my experience with the SL500, I figured it might be a good idea. Also, I could cancel for a full refund within 30 days. Later, when I had time to do research, I found another company that provided a comparable policy for a lot less, so I switched. I'm about to use it for the first time this coming week, so we will see whether I keep it or not.
I do recommend that anyone considering a VSC to pay for it separately and NOT roll it into the financed amount. If you do that and cancel later, the company refunds the money to your lender and that can take a while.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Honestly, I’ve never understood the AMG 231’s. If I wanted to go really fast in a luxurious cabin, I’d get a 911 Turbo S or a Ferrari. To me, the SL is a luxury grand touring car. If being driven in the USA, that means that one will mostly encounter highways with 65 to 70mph top speeds. Some states go into the 80’s, but that’s it. If you want to go faster and you don’t want to end up in jail, you go to the track. SL’s don’t do well at the track. They are too heavy and under braked. We had one member here who destroyed his CCB brakes on his SL65 at Sears Point, trying to pretend he was a Porsche. Not good. He traded the SL65 in on a new GT3 the following week.
Nobody loves the 231’s more than I do. But I love the car for what it was intended to be from the start: a luxurious, 2-seat, extremely comfortable, highway and boulevard cruiser. Honestly, to call it anything else is wishful thinking. These cars need more motor than my 369hp V6 like I need a hole in my head. Of course, this is all just my humble opinion, based on the 8 SL’s I’ve owned since 1972. Oh boy, am I gonna catch hell now. Cheers!
Honestly, I’ve never understood the AMG 231’s. If I wanted to go really fast in a luxurious cabin, I’d get a 911 Turbo S or a Ferrari. To me, the SL is a luxury grand touring car. If being driven in the USA, that means that one will mostly encounter highways with 65 to 70mph top speeds. Some states go into the 80’s, but that’s it. If you want to go faster and you don’t want to end up in jail, you go to the track. SL’s don’t do well at the track. They are too heavy and under braked. We had one member here who destroyed his CCB brakes on his SL65 at Sears Point, trying to pretend he was a Porsche. Not good. He traded the SL65 in on a new GT3 the following week.
Nobody loves the 231’s more than I do. But I love the car for what it was intended to be from the start: a luxurious, 2-seat, extremely comfortable, highway and boulevard cruiser. Honestly, to call it anything else is wishful thinking. These cars need more motor than my 369hp V6 like I need a hole in my head. Of course, this is all just my humble opinion, based on the 8 SL’s I’ve owned since 1972. Oh boy, am I gonna catch hell now. Cheers!
Yea I don’t agree.
I was a Ferrari collector for 14 years, and I’ve been a Porsche collector for many years. I’ve been privileged to have been in just about everything. Incidentally, another owner just sent his 2022 Porsche 992 base turbo cabriolet down to FL to me so I could try it for a few months. It’s still in my warehouse and it goes back this week.
After driving it some, in the context of having driven or owned various previous generations of turbo and also a 991.2 GT3 Touring, I said to another friend, “The 992 turbo is obviously terrific. It does everything quite well. It’s super fast. But it doesn’t do anything exceptionally except straight line speed. It doesn’t stir my soul at all. This car is so… pasteurized. It’s a synthetic experience, not an organic one. The SL63 is way better at high speed cruising than the turbo. And it’s way better at being a convertible.” I cancelled my order for a 992 turbo cabriolet. When I put myself behind the wheel of my SL63 back to back, I marveled at the experience the SL63 offered.
Ferrari? That’s not a luxurious or functional interior. It’s an interior with fancy colored leather and a hodgepodge of ergonomic-less layout and terrible technology. It’s a wonderful and tremendous performance machine that’s full of soul but also full of quirks and compromises. Let’s not go down that rabbithole.
The R231 SL63 is a beast in so many ways. I wonder if you’ve ever driven one? I’ve tested its capabilities both on highways and also on the canyon roads of Western North Carolina — and I think you are understating its performance and handling capabilities immensely. Let’s also not forget the rumble of that 5.5L V8 is a huge part of the experience. The engine is magnificent, and happily it is not very civilized. No Porsche has an engine like it.
The SL63 is a sport touring car if not a true sports car. That debate will go on forever — and we don’t need to have that here — but I can tell you first hand that SL63 did **everything** I asked it to do at ridiculous cornering speeds on those technical roads in Western NC. I actually made myself completely nauseated at one point and needed to stop driving for an hour. True story. I can even tell you exactly where that happened
As I said in my opening post, I owned a 2019 R231 SL450 at the same time as I owned my R231 SL63. I actually ordered the 2019 SL450 to keep at another home — I ticked the option box for ABC suspension as well. Very nice car, and I liked the engine and the sound of the V6. On one occasion, I tested the SL450’s limit around a highway entrance ramp. Needless to say, I ended up off the road. So much for electronic stability control! No damage to me or the car thank goodness, but it was a bit scary; and to this day I still think I wasn’t defying the laws of physics beyond the intervention of ESP. I realized the hard way that a non-AMG SL is **not** going to handle like the SL63. The SL63 is specifically tuned to do what a 911 can do on the street. We aren’t talking about the track here. But on the street, the SL63 is a serious contender.
People always ask me, “What’s your favorite car?” I always respond, “I don’t have a favorite. They are like children. All different, and each deserving equal love.” And that’s a completely accurate description of my attitude. Look — I would never want to be in this position — but if I could have only one car, I don’t know how I would choose my 991.2 Carrera S cab over the SL63. The 911 is widely considered the perfect car, but there’s one thing it doesn’t do particularly well: high highway speed. It’s too light, and there is tremendous noise inside the cockpit at speed. A heavier, better insulated car is way more confidence-inspiring and comfortable on the highway at high speed. The R231 SL63 is a highway crusher. Sweeping turns on the autobahns of Germany at 140 mph? No problem. Keep up with the best of them on the famed Tail of the Dragon roadway? No problem. It is so much more car than anything other singular car.
Honestly, I’ve never understood the AMG 231’s. If I wanted to go really fast in a luxurious cabin, I’d get a 911 Turbo S or a Ferrari. To me, the SL is a luxury grand touring car. If being driven in the USA, that means that one will mostly encounter highways with 65 to 70mph top speeds. Some states go into the 80’s, but that’s it. If you want to go faster and you don’t want to end up in jail, you go to the track. SL’s don’t do well at the track. They are too heavy and under braked. We had one member here who destroyed his CCB brakes on his SL65 at Sears Point, trying to pretend he was a Porsche. Not good. He traded the SL65 in on a new GT3 the following week.
Nobody loves the 231’s more than I do. But I love the car for what it was intended to be from the start: a luxurious, 2-seat, extremely comfortable, highway and boulevard cruiser. Honestly, to call it anything else is wishful thinking. These cars need more motor than my 369hp V6 like I need a hole in my head. Of course, this is all just my humble opinion, based on the 8 SL’s I’ve owned since 1972. Oh boy, am I gonna catch hell now. Cheers!
I agree with you 100%. I tracked my C7 Corvette several times but I would never track my SL. It is not a sports car.
I hate that garage! A garage is to house vehicles. Everything else belongs someplace else.
Oh man, that antiseptic hospital ward look is what my garage looked like for maybe 3 hours right after we closed on our house years ago!
In defense of my own cave, 95+% of what’s in it is related to the maintenance, tinkering, cleaning, and general enjoyment of cars. What’s shown is actually one of the cleaner views. Over on the left, out of view, I have piles of parts - new parts for cars that I have, new parts for cars I no longer have, removed parts from both cars I have and I don’t but could possibly be of some use at some point, and parts that I’ve simply forgotten what they were for. Then there are fluids - oils, coolants, all variety of lubricants and cleaning products, miscellaneous tubes and funnels and pumps and buckets. And tools of every shape and type, some neatly organized, others not so much. And in there somewhere is my garage sound system for tunes to jam to while I ponder the mysteries of German engineering.
Oh, that “It’s a Boy” poster behind the R129 in my photo? Our son is 26 and is now a Resident Physician*, so that thing is older than the SL in front of it. After 2 decades of storing it in a closet, my wife decided to pitch it but was all teary about it. So I offered to keep it in the garage and she was ecstatic. What she doesn’t know (yet) is that the reverse side is nice and white and perfect to stick underneath a car to check if that drip is brown oil or pink transmission fluid or green coolant…so that too has an automotive purpose!
*Digression, I’m proud of that kid. He’s an orthopedic surgeon resident and he shows me where his work involves a lot of sawing and drilling and bolting - of bones and such. So what he picked up in my garage as a teenager hasn’t gone to waste after all!!
2015 SL400 (M276 Turbo), 2014 C350 Sport (M276 NA), 2004 SL500 (M113), 2004 Audi TT225 (BEA)
Originally Posted by ram_g
Oh man, that antiseptic hospital ward look is what my garage looked like for maybe 3 hours right after we closed on our house years ago!...
Good for you, brother. It's your garage and it can look whatever way you want it to!
However, I do crave the day when my garage looks like a hospital ward. Plus, a messy garage is a great place to hide all you gold, silver, and diamonds!
I think how a garage is kept depends on what actually you are going to do in the area. I have a 12 car garage as I rebuild older cars as a hobby and also do all of the minor maintenance, oil changes and filters, on all my modern vehicles and tractors. When you’re taking an engine or a transmission out of a car you’ve got to have space and it’s going to get a little messy no matter what you do with tools all over the place. Otherwise I have commercial shelving that goes up to the ceiling around the perimeter of this garage, each 10 feet holding 3,000 pounds, and have a forklift to lift heavy things up higher and out of the way to give me more garage space where I can work. Those that have a pristine garage with no tools or anything don’t do any of their own maintenance in my experience.
My Messerschmitt KR200 and BMW Isetta 300 are both so small I can forklift them onto a shelf 8’ off the ground and out of the way.
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2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by Utopia Texas
I think how a garage is kept depends on what actually you are going to do in the area………..Those that have a pristine garage with no tools or anything don’t do any of their own maintenance in my experience.
You’ve got that right! I made my way through college buying, restoring/repairing Corvettes. I rebuilt engines, etc. When I got my first Porsche, that was it for me and I decided to let professionals do the dirty work. In addition, I live in earthquake country and am very concerned about junk falling on my cars in the event of a shaker, so I go to the extremes to try and keep clutter away from my cars. I also happen to really like a garage free of pretty much anything other than cars. It takes some doing, but I enjoy the end result, every time I pull my car in.
Haha 🤣 🤣 bunch of grumpy old retrogrouches aren’t we….
Did we mention white hair is a pre-requisite for this forum?
Originally Posted by Streamliner
Honestly, I’ve never understood the AMG 231’s. If I wanted to go really fast in a luxurious cabin, I’d get a 911 Turbo S or a Ferrari. To me, the SL is a luxury grand touring car. If being driven in the USA, that means that one will mostly encounter highways with 65 to 70mph top speeds. Some states go into the 80’s, but that’s it. If you want to go faster and you don’t want to end up in jail, you go to the track. SL’s don’t do well at the track. They are too heavy and under braked. We had one member here who destroyed his CCB brakes on his SL65 at Sears Point, trying to pretend he was a Porsche. Not good. He traded the SL65 in on a new GT3 the following week.
Nobody loves the 231’s more than I do. But I love the car for what it was intended to be from the start: a luxurious, 2-seat, extremely comfortable, highway and boulevard cruiser. Honestly, to call it anything else is wishful thinking. These cars need more motor than my 369hp V6 like I need a hole in my head. Of course, this is all just my humble opinion, based on the 8 SL’s I’ve owned since 1972. Oh boy, am I gonna catch hell now. Cheers!
hats off to the OP for going above and beyond my biased opinion when I read about the new SL43-55. I am buying my leased 2020 instead of “upgrading”. I found the reviews to be dubious. Seriously a rag top is better?? Tell me that when you bought 2 new tops in 4 years. I saw a new r232 on the road and it looks like a bloated Porsche minus the grit. Yes I am a girl and I like my comfy SL but in my defense previously had a Porsche 911 turbo manual 2002 and good governor that is a CAR. But seriously, media hating on the R231 is not credible. I have had 3 of them. I now regard every media review as salesy BS, of any car.
2019 SL450, 2019 E450 Luxury Trim Wagon, 2024 BMW I7 xDrive60
Originally Posted by WuLaLa
hats off to the OP for going above and beyond my biased opinion when I read about the new SL43-55. I am buying my leased 2020 instead of “upgrading”. I found the reviews to be dubious. Seriously a rag top is better?? Tell me that when you bought 2 new tops in 4 years. I saw a new r232 on the road and it looks like a bloated Porsche minus the grit. Yes I am a girl and I like my comfy SL but in my defense previously had a Porsche 911 turbo manual 2002 and good governor that is a CAR. But seriously, media hating on the R231 is not credible. I have had 3 of them. I now regard every media review as salesy BS, of any car.
Nice to see someone going way back to read these old threads.
Just found this old thread - thank you for resurrecting it!
I went from a '19 911 Turbo S to my '17 SL 63. Putting aside from the almost $100k I put in my pocket from a cost perspective, I am enjoying the SL63 more. A couple of facts and then my opinion:
Facts:
1. From 0-100, very few cars rearrange your organs like a 911 Turbo. The grip from launch is amazing and fun to exploit.
2. The brakes - carbon ceramics on the 911 are light years ahead in power and feel from the SL63 (my SL just has the regular brakes) and put out 1/100 of the brake dust!
Opinions:
1. I really like how the 2nd gen R231 looks
2. The sound of V8 is much better than any turbo Porsche (I have the RennTech kit on my SL63 so the V8 burbles and pops are mixed with waste gate blow off = delicious!)
3. Mercedes is much more comfortable - in ride and quietness. And you can really tell the difference in the suspension settings on the SL whereas the Porsche was bouncy and slightly more bouncy
4. Handling - I'm not a professional driver, but I do get a grin on my face when the back end steps out a little on the SL in a hard corner before stability control pulls it back in. I would have to be going at deadly speeds to get the 911 to step out! Scary.
5. My wife will actually drive and enjoy the SL. She was scared of the 911 - too expensive, too rough, too fast all the time
I've seen a couple of R232s - certainly good looking but maybe not as distinctive as the R231. And screen overload (I like the size of the screen in the R231 and, with wireless Apple CarPlay, I have all I want). I'm sure they'll grow on me, but they need to depreciate 50% before I'd consider one.
Enjoy what you have and appreciate the choices that we have in the market!
Just found this old thread - thank you for resurrecting it!
I went from a '19 911 Turbo S to my '17 SL 63. Putting aside from the almost $100k I put in my pocket from a cost perspective, I am enjoying the SL63 more. A couple of facts and then my opinion:
Facts:
1. From 0-100, very few cars rearrange your organs like a 911 Turbo. The grip from launch is amazing and fun to exploit.
2. The brakes - carbon ceramics on the 911 are light years ahead in power and feel from the SL63 (my SL just has the regular brakes) and put out 1/100 of the brake dust!
Opinions:
1. I really like how the 2nd gen R231 looks
2. The sound of V8 is much better than any turbo Porsche (I have the RennTech kit on my SL63 so the V8 burbles and pops are mixed with waste gate blow off = delicious!)
3. Mercedes is much more comfortable - in ride and quietness. And you can really tell the difference in the suspension settings on the SL whereas the Porsche was bouncy and slightly more bouncy
4. Handling - I'm not a professional driver, but I do get a grin on my face when the back end steps out a little on the SL in a hard corner before stability control pulls it back in. I would have to be going at deadly speeds to get the 911 to step out! Scary.
5. My wife will actually drive and enjoy the SL. She was scared of the 911 - too expensive, too rough, too fast all the time
I've seen a couple of R232s - certainly good looking but maybe not as distinctive as the R231. And screen overload (I like the size of the screen in the R231 and, with wireless Apple CarPlay, I have all I want). I'm sure they'll grow on me, but they need to depreciate 50% before I'd consider one.
Enjoy what you have and appreciate the choices that we have in the market!
Seth
'17 SL63
Originally Posted by Streamliner
Nice to see someone going way back to read these old threads.
Originally Posted by CincyMBGuy
There won't be a new SL for me to sell for about 2 years. They are waaaayy down the list on back-order. I love the R231, I think it is a fantastic car but the 232 is better in every way, IMO. I have also been vocal on the forum about models I am not a huge fan of. I may be an employee, but I am not brand myopic.
Ok, the posters in the service bay are how people think the R232 looks but this is one of 2 that were in for service. I have no doubt that it is an incredible machine even if it probably has those tesla style giant iPads on the console. But come on, this is an objectively unimpressive design on this SL55. Snoozeville. Yes you certainly can pay a significant sum and build one to look better than this. But yikes. Unrelated but in case anybody knows an indie in West LA- this same stealership tried to get 2K for new brakes when I got service A. They did the same thing 4 years ago with my 2017. Neither needed new brakes. Does this happen to guys or just women?? SL55 SL55
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