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Old Apr 18, 2022 | 05:07 PM
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Software Update - Will I notice anything?

While sorting out an MBrace issue last week my indie updated my software. Any noticeable improvement I can look for? The navigation seems better but that could be my imagination...
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Old Apr 18, 2022 | 05:12 PM
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Funny I was just chatting with my MB dealer today about the nav update. They mentioned they currently had a 2020 update, but the 2022 was due out a few months ago, but hasn't arrived yet. My original maps is an older version, so I wanted to have updated streets, etc. I guess I should have asked if it was only the maps that would be updated, or would other things be updated with the new software too.

I am curious what others will chime in with on the answers you requested...

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While sorting out an MBrace issue last week my indie updated my software. Any noticeable improvement I can look for? The navigation seems better but that could be my imagination...
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Old Apr 19, 2022 | 05:20 AM
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I updated the maps myself several months ago. I'll have to check which version they are. But, going forward, I won't be. As I posted elsewhere, I added the Road Top CarPlay/Android Auto Retrofit Kit to my car and will now be using Waze, Google Maps, or Apple Maps (along with incredibly better sound for music).
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Yes, I saw that you posted about that update, however when I went to that site last week, or so it did not show the 15 SL 400 iOS CarPlay as an option and I looked multiple times. I did see Android option. I guess they could have been doing site updates at that moment.

I would need the iOS car play.


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I updated the maps myself several months ago. I'll have to check which version they are. But, going forward, I won't be. As I posted elsewhere, I added the Road Top CarPlay/Android Auto Retrofit Kit to my car and will now be using Waze, Google Maps, or Apple Maps (along with incredibly better sound for music).

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Yes, I saw that you posted about that update, however when I went to that site last week, or so it did not show the 15 SL 400 iOS CarPlay as an option and I looked multiple times. I did see Android option. I guess they could have been doing site updates at that moment.

I would need the iOS car play.
No, the SL is not specifically listed. But any Mercedes with NTG4.5 or NTG4.7 COMAND unit will work with the device. Their decoder box supports both CarPlay and Android Auto automatically. You just need to measure your screen diagonally and set the dip switches correctly. You likely have a 7" screen.

I have now installed it in both my cars, the 2015 SL400 and the 2014 C350. Works beautifully.

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Ok, thanks for the info. How does one find out if they have the ntg4.5 or ntg4.7?

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No, the SL is not specifically listed. But any Mercedes with NTG4.5 or NTG4.7 COMAND unit will work with the device. Their decoder box supports both CarPlay and Android Auto automatically. You just need to measure your screen diagonally and set the dip switches correctly. You likely have a 7" screen.

I have now installed it in both my cars, the 2015 SL400 and the 2014 C350. Works beautifully.
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Ok, thanks for the info. How does one find out if they have the ntg4.5 or ntg4.7?
You probably do if you have a SL400. Not sure when Mercedes switched to NTG5.0. Someone posted in the forum (@Wolfman ?) about how to use the Engineering Menu to find out what version you have.


NOTE: That video just shows how to access the engineering menu. I think your COMAND version can be found under menu item 3. I will confirm and update.

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Menu 3.1 will show what version NTG you have. I have NTG4.7.



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Ok.
I drove my SUV today, but when I get home from work later I will check the SL to see which version I have. I watched the install video and it seemed straight forward at the start, but looked to get a little harder towards the middle/end. It is a little intimidating, because taking things apart on a car that costs as much as ours is nerve racking. I am willing to give it a try in order to get car play though...

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Menu 3.1 will show what version NTG you have. I have NTG4.7.


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There are several YT videos on removing the radio HU in the SL R231. Watch several or all of them to learn tips and tricks and get comfortable with removing stuff. Take your time and don’t rush.
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Crap, I went right home after work last night and forgot to look at which version I have. Dag gone this gettin old crap. Will look tonight. Yes, I have already watched one video install from the company, but it is on a different model. Would be nice if I could find one on the SL on YT. DO you think there is very much difference in removing the HU on a 13 SL as compared to the 15 SL? I see plenty of vids on the 13.

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There are several YT videos on removing the radio HU in the SL R231. Watch several or all of them to learn tips and tricks and get comfortable with removing stuff. Take your time and don’t rush.

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Crap, I went right home after work last night and forgot to look at which version I have. Dag gone this gettin old crap. Will look tonight. Yes, I have already watched one video install from the company, but it is on a different model. Would be nice if I could find one on the SL on YT. DO you think there is very much difference in removing the HU on a 13 SL as compared to the 15 SL? I see plenty of vids on the 13.
1. Never complain about getting old. The alternative is not attractive!

2. A 2013 and a 2015 should be the same.
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2. A 2013 and a 2015 should be the same.
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Originally Posted by JettaRed
Menu 3.1 will show what version NTG you have. I have NTG4.7.


AFAIK, the engineering menu is not available / accessible on the facelift model.
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AFAIK, the engineering menu is not available / accessible on the facelift model.
Does the facelift models already come with CarPlay/Android Auto?
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@ThatsMyDawg Looks like you're good to go for the kit.
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Does the facelift models already come with CarPlay/Android Auto?
Mine has Carplay.
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Mine has Carplay.
Dawg was interested in retrofitting CarPlay to his SL without it. That's why were we discussing using the Engineering Menu to identify which NTG version he had.
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@ThatsMyDawg Looks like you're good to go for the kit.
Yes, I thought so too!
I will be placing my order this weekend likely. Not gonna lie, I am super nervous about doing this install. Breaking something, jacking up my radio so it doesn't even work anymore, breaking trim tabs, etc. I know I can do it if I just take my time, stay calm and don't psych myself out, but I am nervous. Back in the day I removed my front bumper and swapped my front head lights for halo lights on my then CLK 430. (see below picture) I really, really loved that CLK 430. The V8 was very responsive in such a little car and it sounded great. That car was totaled when a dump truck hit me on the highway back then. I would have never thought that I could have changed those lights alone, because I am in no way a mechanical type of guy, but I did it without a single issue. The difference with that car and this car is that car was paid off, so if I did screw something up the car could sit for a while until I could sort it out no problem.The Sl is more than double the price. (I had the original sticker from my CLK 430 and as it was optioned it was $55k.This is my main car that I am still paying for, so I would be pissed if I jacked up something and couldn't drive it, but still had to make monthly payments.

Anyway, I should be fine... I will watch more videos on the removal, etc. I might even get bold enough to take pics along the way to make an install post. I dunno. I am hoping I can do this (moving slowly) on one Sunday morning. Gonna look at all the tools, etc. I need so I can have everything at hand. Will post as I get into this. As always I appreciate the help here! One side question, which part of Maryland are you in?



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Take pictures of the back of your radio before you disconnect anything if you can. Everything is color-coded, but when I was hooking stuff back up, there were some connections without matching cables and I couldn't remember if anything had been there beforehand. Apparently not, because everything works.

One of the videos shows the guy forcing the radio back in. I recommend NOT doing that. Also, removal of the glove box (which I didn't do) will give you access to routing the cables more easily, and maybe locating the decoder module there. I put the decoder in my glove box. There is a pre-cut knock-out in the side of the glove box on the left and toward the front. I was comfortable doing that in case I need to change dip switch settings or replace the decoder or anything else that might have gone wrong. On the C350, I did put the decoder box behind the passenger side panel.

I'll post some pics of my glove box.

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The cool thing about these cars is that just about all trim pieces are held with clips. Very few are screwed down. In addition to the four screws on each side of the radio and the two that secure it in place, the only other screws were four that hold down the arm rests.
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One of the videos shows the guy forcing the radio back in. I recommend NOT doing that.
I lol at that comment and I wont do that.

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OK, here are a few pics post installation. (Believe it or not, I did try to shrink the pictures before posting them.)


Finished result. CarPlay screen.

Decoder and cable passthru. The decoder module is Velcroed to the inside of the glovebox to keep it in place.

Inside the center console showing the Aux cable and the iPhone cable. Having a leftover screw is a little disconcerting, but nothing has fallen apart yet.

A closer picture of where I drilled holes for the cables inside the center console. I did remove the console top and the connection box to drill the holes and route cables from the kit to the console. I used a 6' iPhone cable to have plenty of length.
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Thanks for the images. It will probably make more sense when my kit arrives, but what is the aux cable and the phone cable for that you drilled in the center console? You don't have to have the phone hooked up to display the CarPlay do you?? I already have a splitter in the 12v thats in the console for my phone charging and to power my dash cam.


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OK, here are a few pics post installation. (Believe it or not, I did try to shrink the pictures before posting them.)


Finished result. CarPlay screen.

Decoder and cable passthru. The decoder module is Velcroed to the inside of the glovebox to keep it in place.

Inside the center console showing the Aux cable and the iPhone cable. Having a leftover screw is a little disconcerting, but nothing has fallen apart yet.

A closer picture of where I drilled holes for the cables inside the center console. I did remove the console top and the connection box to drill the holes and route cables from the kit to the console. I used a 6' iPhone cable to have plenty of length.

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The Aux cable is definitely needed for sound through your speakers and the iPhone cable is an optional connection. The kit uses Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi, but you can have a wired connection, too. With the iPhone cable, you can charge your phone at the same time.
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