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SL/R231: Front tire over inflation warning?

Old Feb 11, 2023 | 07:50 AM
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Front tire over inflation warning?

Took the car for its first out of town cruise last night, and got a front tire over inflation warning. I corrected the cold inflation (twice to be perfect), after the tire installer set all of them to 45psi! What do you all think is causing this? Could it be an alignment problem (camber/caster), since they seem to be well balance, ie no vibration coming through the steering wheel. Was somewhat disconcerting, since I've never seen this warning on any other car before, only the underinflation warning. I believe they were reading 44 "hot" last night. Was driving very sensibly, btw.
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Goodwood
Took the car for its first out of town cruise last night, and got a front tire over inflation warning. I corrected the cold inflation (twice to be perfect), after the tire installer set all of them to 45psi! What do you all think is causing this? Could it be an alignment problem (camber/caster), since they seem to be well balance, ie no vibration coming through the steering wheel. Was somewhat disconcerting, since I've never seen this warning on any other car before, only the underinflation warning. I believe they were reading 44 "hot" last night. Was driving very sensibly, btw.
Never seen that over inflation warning either. Are we talking about NEW tires, since you say "tire installer" in you post? My guess is this has to do with the TPMS sensors. I would set the tire pressure as recommended by the label inside the fuel door and see if the warning returns. You may get a dash notice that you need to drive a few miles or to press "OK" to set the baseline pressure. Good luck.
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 02:52 PM
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Yes, these were new non-runflats installed Fri. I did set them to 36F/42R after driving it home and next morning discovering they were wrongly set to 45 all around. Even did it a 2nd time this morning, using my analog dial gauge, as the fronts were 1 PSI too high. I was looking at the readout on the dash today, and it asked it I wanted to accept this as new value, or something like that, and I chose yes. Just got the car last Fri. Didn't know there was recommended PSI values on the fuel door, since I haven't needed to add fuel yet. My PSI values are on a placard on the door jab. If this comes up again, I'm going to pull over and take a reading to see if it matches what the TPMS sensors are reading out. Strange.
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 04:16 PM
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I don't remember the tire pressure I was using except that I would use the base tire pressure on the fuel filler door (not the driver door jamb) but inflate the rear by 3-5psi cold. This is to offset the natural inner tire wear on SL's.
Either way, your tire pressures sound too high. Check the label on the fuel filler door.
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Goodwood
Yes, these were new non-runflats installed Fri. I did set them to 36F/42R after driving it home and next morning discovering they were wrongly set to 45 all around. Even did it a 2nd time this morning, using my analog dial gauge, as the fronts were 1 PSI too high. I was looking at the readout on the dash today, and it asked it I wanted to accept this as new value, or something like that, and I chose yes. Just got the car last Fri. Didn't know there was recommended PSI values on the fuel door, since I haven't needed to add fuel yet. My PSI values are on a placard on the door jab. If this comes up again, I'm going to pull over and take a reading to see if it matches what the TPMS sensors are reading out. Strange.
TPMS sensors are supposed to alert you to a deviation in pressure from one tire to another. I am not certain what the regulations are on this, or how precise the sensors are. They are actually programable. Some, I believe, alert you when a tires falls X lbs below the others. Another way is by percentage. This makes more sense since replacement tires (All Season, Run Flat, High Performance, whatever) might have different pressures than OE tires. In any event, it isn't necessary to stop and check (you can of course...your choice) because you can use the "arrows" on the left of the steering wheel to navigate to Service. You should see: Messages - Tires - ASSYST. Down arrow to tires and hit OK.




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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 06:11 PM
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Good info. Interestingly, the recommended PSI on the fuel door is 35 all around, when the recommended PSI on the door jam is 36F/42R/ I reset all mine to 35. The fronts were already at around 35, but I lowered the rears by 7 to also be 35. I need to drive it a little, then as recommended in the video, reset the TPMS to these values. So, you like to run 38 rear to offset the inner wear?
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Old Feb 11, 2023 | 06:51 PM
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Good info. Interestingly, the recommended PSI on the fuel door is 35 all around, when the recommended PSI on the door jam is 36F/42R/ I reset all mine to 35. The fronts were already at around 35, but I lowered the rears by 7 to also be 35. I need to drive it a little, then as recommended in the video, reset the TPMS to these values. So, you like to run 38 rear to offset the inner wear?
I hope others chime in. I think 35 is too low. I was unaware of the rear tire wear precaution from Wolfman, but I set mine at 36 front, 39 rear.
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Goodwood
Good info. Interestingly, the recommended PSI on the fuel door is 35 all around, when the recommended PSI on the door jam is 36F/42R/ I reset all mine to 35. The fronts were already at around 35, but I lowered the rears by 7 to also be 35. I need to drive it a little, then as recommended in the video, reset the TPMS to these values. So, you like to run 38 rear to offset the inner wear?
Yes. Done this for years and it extended the tire wear quite a bit. This matters most with high performance non run flat rubber like the Michelin PSS or PS4s as they naturally have shorter life spans.
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 04:09 AM
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I have to wonder if my TPM sensors are going bad, given my 2018 was built in 2017. I went with the Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS+ Ultra High Performance All Season non-runflats this time. I believe they will suit my driving style best, plus wear longer than an all out ultra high performance tire. But, that said, I will bump up the rears to 38. Odd that this overinflation warning is only coming for the fronts. They start out fine, then seemingly overheat after moderate driving. Definitely going to have the alignment checked soon.
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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These are cold tire pressures, so ideally set them in the garage or as close to the house as possible.
Use a manual gauge for the correct tire pressure then reset the TP in the car with current values.
After a couple of minutes the tire pressure on the display should be very close to the psi you set them at manually.

If all that is good you should see the pressure rising on all tires by a few psi when driving, depending on temperature.

If any of the tires exhibits unusual behavior it is likely that tpms sensor.
There should no message appearing on the display either.




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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 12:49 PM
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Did a new psi value reset and took a drive. Seems to have fixed the problem. psi only rose about 2 lb on this somewhat cool FL morning. Could be fixed. Time will tell.
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I run 35 psi all around except on road trips when the trunk is loaded, then I add about 4-5 psi to the rear tires. If the ambient temp is say 60 degrees and you drive at interstate speeds you will see around a 5 psi increase after you have driven for 25 or so miles. At least this is my experience. Also if you set the psi at an ambient temp of 70 and then it gets down to 40 and you check the psi again you will see a drop in psi of 2-3 psi. Again, this is based on my experience. I am also running non runflat tires, Continental DWS06+ at OEM 19" sizes. Very pleased with the ride and performance.
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Old Feb 12, 2023 | 06:08 PM
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Right, I'm sticking to 35 all around. If I ever load the trunk, I'll increase the rears a bit. I've always told my kids groing up to check their tires every month.
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[QUOTE=Goodwood;8720274]I have to wonder if my TPM sensors are going bad, given my 2018 was built in 2017. I went with the Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS+ Ultra High Performance All Season non-runflats this time. I believe they will suit my driving style best, plus wear longer than an all out ultra high performance tire. But, that said, I will bump up the rears to 38. Odd that this overinflation warning is only coming for the fronts. They start out fine, then seemingly overheat after moderate driving. Definitely going to have the alignment checked soon.

I would have the alignment checked ASAP. My '18 SL 550 came from the factory out of alignment!
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Old Feb 14, 2023 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Goodwood
I have to wonder if my TPM sensors are going bad, given my 2018 was built in 2017. I went with the Bridgestone Potenza RE980AS+ Ultra High Performance All Season non-runflats this time. I believe they will suit my driving style best, plus wear longer than an all out ultra high performance tire. But, that said, I will bump up the rears to 38. Odd that this overinflation warning is only coming for the fronts. They start out fine, then seemingly overheat after moderate driving. Definitely going to have the alignment checked soon.

I would have the alignment checked ASAP. My '18 SL 550 came from the factory out of alignment!
Agree, will get an alignment next shop appt, which is coming soon.
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I keep mine set at 35 all around, but as mentioned they will rise a bit after I get on the highway. (On it twice a day for an hour) They will also drop a bit in real winter times while sitting in the driveway, etc.
Funny I have not driven my car in a week, but drove it today. Both rear tires were at 33, so the light is on now. Will add some air before I get back on the highway in a few minutes....
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