Originally Posted by W211 BEAST (Post 3387249)

Thanks for the reply.

As much as I like the SL body, I just cant convince myself to trade my E for an SL55, I can only justify it if I'm doing it for a 65. I need to do a lot more research into the SL though and I dont have too much more time. I did research every now and then for a couple of years before I bought my car, I knew everything about it.

Originally Posted by 4ociousE55 (Post 3387566)

I own an E55 and an SL55. Personally, I will never part with my E55, it's just too good and does everything very well. The SL is a great car for a garage queen whereas the E55 can be driven daily. I can't speak for an SL65 but my SL55 is similar in many ways to my E55. A lot of people will post that you should buy the SL65 and they aren't wrong. But, if your E55 has been reliable (mine is) and you like it, then you should keep it and buy an extended warranty. Trade in a couple of years for a newer SL63. JMHO.

Originally Posted by carcommander (Post 3390694)

If you need a backseat get a CL65. They are cheaper than SL's.

Originally Posted by alx (Post 3390822)

05 sl65s are about 14-16k more expensive than their cl65 counterparts

thus, if a 30k miles cl65 with distro/keyless is 44k an sl65 would be a 58-60k car.

btw, there is a pent up of unsold 05-07 cl65 cars retail and auctions so expect another decent price drop next round when the vendors let them go within the next couple weeks.

alex
few cars

Originally Posted by W211 BEAST (Post 3391333)

Wow. Thanks for the info guys. I was really looking into the SL because I was being economical. Common sense dictated that a used SL should be cheaper than a used CL because it's cheaper when new.

I'll definitely start looking into the CL65s as well, now that I know it's not out of my league.

Thanks

Originally Posted by sikhkd (Post 3387218)

I have a SL55 w/o warranty, no problems.

then again, I've only had the car for 2 weeks. from my research, alot of members recommend getting a warranty, especially for a SL65 since repairs can get pretty expensive

Originally Posted by JackStraw (Post 3387609)

An alternative is the SL600 with a RENNtech upgrade. I didn't find the SL65 to be any better than my 600. Doesn't have the cachet of a 65 but it is every bit as enjoyable in my opinion,

Originally Posted by Thericker (Post 3392438)

The Turbo's are the same size & they dictate final power output over the half liter displacement edge in the SL65 6.0 vs SL600 5.5

Originally Posted by alx (Post 3392948)

be careful. turbos are identical, but it takes less boost on the 6 liter to achieve any hp level. less boost = cooler charge = more hp as well as more tq under the curve.

the 65 tuning potential is better than the 600 one. not to mention brakes and suspension which is what in my mind truly separates the 600 and the 65 cars.

alex
few cars

Originally Posted by Thericker (Post 3394349)

Also chk facts on the SL600 brakes/calipers they're the exact same 6 pot 4 pot AMG version the 65 uses, only difference is there labeled Mercedes instead of AMG & the rear 600 rotor isnt cross drilled (EZ remedy)...:y

They both use ABC hydraulic suspension, the 65 is set a bit stiffer, EZ to replicate w/STAR lowering...

Notice the big calipers on my 600 sig pic? there stock besides color...

Originally Posted by CA_E55 (Post 3394427)

Is that possible? - I think you need 19" wheels for the composite brakes of the 65 - and the 600 comes standard with 18" wheels

Originally Posted by Thericker (Post 3394349)

VRP has upgraded Intercooler's & CAI that are identical on both 600/65 platforms, the gains will be near equal, The turbo sizing greatly determines the final power output...

Originally Posted by alx (Post 3395183)

true, the gains will be mostly identical, but the 65 will be making more hp because it had more to begin with. also keep in mind that while running the same boost a larger engine will "process" more air so it will naturally make more hp.



never wondered :) i was the owner of prolly the first t88 single supra back a long time ago when people did not know what a supra is. most of the mega hp supras run more bore/stroke to begin with, so yes- they do have bigger engines which allow them to make more hp at the same boost level ;)



dunno if hardware might be the same- pedal feel however is very different- the 600 pedal feel is identical to my gl truck- non-progressive mushy and at the very end very grabby. the 65 pedal feel is much better. edit* the 65 has bigger rotors- at least upfront.



there must be other things at play to limit the 65 cars to 600 performance levels. maybe torque mgmt of some kind. a bigger engine with turbos that are not overspun will always made more hp than a smaller one with same turbos and boost. and upping the boost on a larger engine is more rewarding and carries less danger if done right.

alex
few cars