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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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FS: "Silver Arrow" brake calipers, 334mm Brembo & 300mm Ate

These are identical to the Silver Arrow brakes except for the color... real Silver Arrows are painted silver front & rear, these are black front and unpainted rears. All four calipers are in very good condition and include good used OE front brake pads, and new Axxis rear brake pads (not shown in photos). Also included are new wear sensors, brake paste, decals, and new mounting bolts for the rear calipers.

Rotors are NOT included - I can supply part numbers so you can purchase either solid or drilled rotors from your favorite MB parts vendor. I can also provide OE brake pad part numbers so you can look up the various aftermarket pads available. Rotor sizes are:

Front: 334mm x 32mm
Rear: 300mm x 22mm


These brakes are a bolt-on upgrade for all 1992-1995 400E, 500E, E420, and E500 E-class models; as well as R129 SL-class models from 1990 through 1998, including the 300SL, 500SL, 600SL, SL320, SL500, and SL600. The brakes can be made to fit all other 1986-1995 W124's (E-class) and 1984-1993 W201's (190E/190D) with additional modifications (see Note 2 below). 17-inch wheels are required to clear the front Brembo calipers, and some models may need trimming of the rear dust shields - again, email me with your exact year/model and I can tell you if any mods are required.

Note 1: These calipers are the ONLY factory Brembos larger than 300mm which fit correctly on the W124 / R129 / W201 chassis, using factory rotors, hoses, and hardware - with no Mickey-Mouse modifications.

Note 2: Front lower control arms (LCA) with non-replaceable ball joints are required for clearance of the larger 334mm rotors, as shown in this photo. If your car has the early type LCA's with replaceable ball joints, you will need to swap to the late style LCA's. All US-spec 124.032, .034, .052, and .066 chassis already have the correct LCA's; as do all 129.076. For 124.036 and 129.066/067 it depends on the year/VIN/options. All other W124/R129 models, and I believe all years/models of W201 will need the control arm swap. Again, email me with your vehicle info and I can probably tell you which LCA's came from the factory on your car.


$750 / obo plus S&H. International shipping ok if you pay with PayPal. I will sell the fronts separately if you don't need the rears. I have sold about a dozen of these kits over the past few years, contact me directly for photos and current availability.











Old Dec 29, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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direct fit to a W124 3.4 AMG?
what rotors and pads will i need to match it.
and how much for the fronts only...

let me know
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Email sent - please let me know if you don't receive it.

If your ball joint looks like this, you have the late style LCA's, and they'll bolt on no problem.

If your ball joint looks like this, you have the early style LCA's, and will need to install the late LCA's to do the brake upgrade. The late LCA's are about $350/pair shipped for new OEM/Febi. Unfortunately you need the late LCA's to install any front brakes larger than 300mm...

Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:06 PM
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i have the older style ball joints

ill continue looking around and keep this kit in mind!
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by chlippo
i have the older style ball joints

ill continue looking around and keep this kit in mind!
No problemo.

FYI, almost any brake upgrade will require the late style LCA/balljoints, as these provide an additional ~5mm clearance for deeper/thicker rotors. Personally, I'd avoid the C32 stuff due to the additional mods required - I investigated that setup a few year ago and decided it just wasn't worth the hassle unless maybe you got a set for free.

I've sold about two dozen of these 334mm kits over the years and they have been proven to work very well; straightforward install with almost zero mods. The braking power with all four installed (front & rear) is phenomenal.



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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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a member over here did the swap for a C32 setup and it was bolt on...i have no personal experience with it but i have c32 rears already, and i just found (and bought) c32 front for 250$ (just calipers, needs painting). i think the rotors are 345mm.
maybe i bought those too fats (even if im not in a hurry), should have heard your side of the story....i hope i wont regret it :S
Old Dec 29, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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That's a great deal on the C32 brakes - congrats! See photo below... the gray caliper is a C32 caliper. The C32 fluid inlet is part of the install problem. You can't use the stock brake hoses without an adapter, and I think you'll need different hoses to go along with the adapter (not sure, never done this).

For comparison, see the photo of the "Silver Arrow" 334mm caliper, painted black... note the fluid inlet is in the stock location and uses stock hoses on a 124/129/201.





Old Dec 30, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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oooops! should have got those then!
now since i already bought pretty much everything (only discs left) i think i will have to live with it and find way to make it fit. i hope it will be just an adapter matter...
if you have any idea what type or what adapter we are talking about here shoot me an email with some pictures...maybe i try to get from an online store
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Originally Posted by chlippo
oooops! should have got those then!
now since i already bought pretty much everything (only discs left) i think i will have to live with it and find way to make it fit. i hope it will be just an adapter matter...
if you have any idea what type or what adapter we are talking about here shoot me an email with some pictures...maybe i try to get from an online store
if you want to unload the c32 calipers i may know a guy looking for some. then you can get these
Old Dec 31, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chlippo
oooops! should have got those then!
now since i already bought pretty much everything (only discs left) i think i will have to live with it and find way to make it fit. i hope it will be just an adapter matter...
if you have any idea what type or what adapter we are talking about here shoot me an email with some pictures...maybe i try to get from an online store
Unfortunately, no, I don't know what hose or adapter is required, nor do I know exactly what mods are needed to make these work on a 124 chassis. I was hoping someone would post details but so far, nobody has (at least, not that I can find). It would be helpful to have this info available so people could decide if it's worth the effort or not (compared to the Silver Arrow setup).

If I find more info, I'll update this thread...


Old Mar 31, 2011 | 05:12 PM
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Hello.
Does this fits my w210 300td?
I want to upgrade it to 330mm or 345mm.
thanks
Old Apr 5, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bmartins
Hello.
Does this fits my w210 300td?
I want to upgrade it to 330mm or 345mm.
thanks
No, sorry, these only fit 124, 129, and 201 chassis. There are other upgrades which will bolt on to the W210 but I don't know details on those. I'm sure you could find more info seraching the 210 forum though.

Old Apr 8, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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Interested in these if still available, fronts only
Also would appreciate more info on the discs.

Kindly pm, thanks.
Old Apr 8, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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The calipers shown in the photos in the first post have been sold, sorry. I do have a different set available, please email me for info.

ktkrap - PM sent.


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