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I've seen the Box on the R129 SL55 (NA). Looks beautiful and similar to SC engines. I think it's also the same as the W220?
I wonder if it'd fit our cars.
Thanks. Piping inner diameter is 3'. Outside is 3.5, so yes the filter is 3.5' I would have gone bigger piping but the maf is almost exactly the same diameter, so it would almost become a bottle neck.
Really? I mean..really?
Sorry I try to stay positive, but in all honesty it looks horrible and can't help..at all
I agree it isn't a "pretty" mod. But the stock engine cover isn't really pretty either. I had an e39 M5, and that was a cool engine bay. Mercedes of the same period were very conservative in comparison; In sound as well as the aesthetics......
Some people also waste $1K to $2K for Renntech airbox for look only.
umm.... yes, and it looks awesome with measured performance gains, no matter how slight they may be. so it's not a waste, if you can afford it... not the best comparison
Tough crowd I don't think it looks that bad I agree w/the other user that it will diminish returns due to be close to the engine. Unless you can get the duct to run outside of the engine your pulling in hot air. When this V8 gets going in the summer she gets realllllly hot. There's a reason why the ducts run outside. This would probably work on a 4 banger or V6 I'd say-
Some people also waste $1K to $2K for Renntech airbox for look only.
I'm also agree that not worth to spend ($1,580), maybe carbon looks which attracts more than air efficiency..!!?!!
just IMO; 55K air box more worth & less $$$$$,,
As (ProjectC55) Explanation;-
the C43/E55 box with the filters inside, sits right over the top of the intake manifold which get very hot, so where that damn heat is going, the 55K boxes are actually running against the side of the manifold which would appear to be more effective in terms of feeding the motor cooler intake air..!!
I'm also agree that not worth to spend ($1,580), maybe carbon looks which attracts more than air efficiency..!!?!!
just IMO; 55K air box more worth & less $$$$$,,
As (ProjectC55) Explanation;-
the C43/E55 box with the filters inside, sits right over the top of the intake manifold which get very hot, so where that damn heat is going, the 55K boxes are actually running against the side of the manifold which would appear to be more effective in terms of feeding the motor cooler intake air..!!
ZAYED,,
The plastic that's used doesn't transfer a ton of heat, and the 55K airboxes have been shown to not be that much more efficient than the W210 ones; it just doesn't muffle engine noise as much. While I don't think the return is worth the cost, the Renntech does deliver as advertised on power gains.
Honestly; can't count on that link(as proved), i tasted 55K on many NA's M112 & M113,
like the idea of being against the side of intake manifold, main purpose of upgrading airbox, to get more/efficient cooled air pass through it, isn't..?
E39 engine bay looks like it has a giant 80s style electronic device sticking out of it.
The m113 engine cover with dual air intake looks perfectly simple
The E39 engine bay might not look better "Aesthetically" but I'd say material quality is much more better than the W210.
The E55 Airbox is simpler, beautiful (When new) but with heat and age it becomes flimsy.
Originally Posted by CharlyE500
Some people also waste $1K to $2K for Renntech airbox for look only.
+55
IMHO ~$1600 for an airbox is overpriced. I'd buy Kleemann headers over that box
Sorry been MIA on the forum. Good points and discussion here. If you look at the pictures I posted above, there is a heat shield. It works on the same premise that any other K&N shielded cone filter kit does, isolating engine heat from the filter itself. The way the shield is setup, it also funnels the air from the grille duct as well. Also right below the filter there is a duct where cool air comes in from the bumper, I bought a 45 degree elbow to scoop up air when the car is in motion to keep air moving up through the bumper.
I also get why people are skeptical. I'm not saying my intake is better in every condition, but in terms of WOT air flow I'd say it flows better than stock. If you look at the way Mercedes designed the exhaust on the w210 nobody would disagree that they tuned it to be quiet, and in doing so restricted it. The same philosophy is applied to the intake. It's designed to be quiet and work marginally well in all conditions. Where as aftermarket tuners like K&N, or AEM typically aim for peak HP #'s with everything else being secondary. The only difference with the intake and exhaust is that exhaust work is universal and Intakes are not. Our cars are limited production so not too many companies even offered an alternative.
The other point is $1500 for an airbox isn't reasonable to me for the HP returns although, there is a cool factor with those options, but that's just a matter of opinion.
Lastly, I did tons of homework on different intake options factory and other M113K boxes etc.. I also did research on how much airflow is required for our engines. At the end of the day I felt a difference and love the induction sound. I was completely prepared to put the stock box back on if it had negative affects but it didn't.
Trust me, the renntech carbon airbox is not only for look. works amazing. is pretty expensive i know. but the difference is perceptible in the first drive impression, the big difference is the raised top in the MAF location. doesnt make sens to buy it new cause the price is crazy. but if is possible to find a used one. I buy mine for 230$ aprx. :S
Trust me, the renntech carbon airbox is not only for look. works amazing. is pretty expensive i know. but the difference is perceptible in the first drive impression, the big difference is the raised top in the MAF location. doesnt make sens to buy it new cause the price is crazy. but if is possible to find a used one. I buy mine for 230$ aprx. :S
Fabio Daniel
That's what I've heard from just about everyone who
has one. My left nut is currently up for sale, if one can be found...
No, not that I know of, maybe it reads more accurate due to the air flow being more linear? But In order to use the intake elbow you have to extend the MAF sensor harness, as the stock E55 MAF harness will not extend that far.
No, not that I know of, maybe it reads more accurate due to the air flow being more linear? But In order to use the intake elbow you have to extend the MAF sensor harness, as the stock E55 MAF harness will not extend that far.
I was thinking you would want a smooth entry and exit from the MAS.
Did you notice any difference at all?
I was thinking you would want a smooth entry and exit from the MAS.
Did you notice any difference at all?
Do you mean a difference from the intake or the MAF location? Air intake definitely feels different in a good way.
If you guys feel like reading some good info on the results I got my setup concept from @mbenzman . If you look more on the 208/202 AMG section it's more common.
03-09-2015, 08:02 PM
I don't think it looks that bad I agree w/the other user that it will diminish returns due to be close to the engine. Unless you can get the duct to run outside of the engine your pulling in hot air. When this V8 gets going in the summer she gets realllllly hot. There's a reason why the ducts run outside. This would probably work on a 4 banger or V6 I'd say-
But In order to use the intake elbow you have to extend the MAF sensor harness, as the stock E55 MAF harness will not extend that far.
