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turbo1k 11-17-2016 09:01 PM

What to do when you go to install headers and the first 2 bolts snap in the head.
 
Pull the motor 🙀

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d14247ce5a.jpg

ddb 11-17-2016 09:23 PM

Damn!

Tall Giraffe 11-17-2016 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by turbo1k (Post 6972500)
Pull the motor ��

How did that happen? could not break the bolts cleanly?

illest 11-18-2016 12:54 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...ad94c32881.jpg
I guess it will be easier to fix the valve cover gaskets with the motor out

turbo1k 11-18-2016 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Tall Giraffe (Post 6972590)
How did that happen? could not break the bolts cleanly?

i guess it was because it's a New England car. I don't want to fight with broken studs in the car and figured I could do other maintenance while it was out.

On another note not what are these motors and transmission worth. Now might be a good time for a
turbo LS swap.

turbo1k 11-18-2016 08:24 PM

She is all unbolted just need to pull her out.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...3d8b72f21f.jpg

turbo1k 11-20-2016 09:02 AM

It's out and the broken studs are removed. One more broke on me so there was a total of 3. The broken studs came out very hard and with lots of heat. There is no way this could have been done in car.
Now I have a few questions.
Whats the Tq spec on the valve cover bolts,oil pan(upper and lower), rear main seal plate and intake manifold bolts? Also I removed the EGR tube from the manifold, how does this go back together?
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...a9244c7e13.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...577ae31b1d.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...462d85667c.jpg

IanB 11-21-2016 11:12 AM

Good on you, what a nightmare! Do your rear main seal while it's out, I've got to do mine and I'm dreading pulling the trans to access it. How long did it take to get the engine out start to finish?

turbo1k 11-21-2016 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by IanB (Post 6974999)
Good on you, what a nightmare! Do your rear main seal while it's out, I've got to do mine and I'm dreading pulling the trans to access it. How long did it take to get the engine out start to finish?

Actually not to bad at all. Id say 4hr to get it out. Figure 2hrs to to all the maintenance and another 4 hrs to button her up. I have a nice 2 stall heated garage just no lift.
Im also doing the rear main seal, valve cover gaskets, and re sealing the oil pan.

Steve

rnelson 11-22-2016 07:45 PM

Sweet mother of everything that is holy and pure! I was thinking about changing out my headers and now I am scared crapless.

illest 11-22-2016 08:34 PM

me too.

Originally Posted by rnelson (Post 6976550)
Sweet mother of everything that is holy and pure! I was thinking about changing out my headers and now I am scared crapless.


turbo1k 11-22-2016 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by rnelson (Post 6976550)
Sweet mother of everything that is holy and pure! I was thinking about changing out my headers and now I am scared crapless.



Guys these cars are getting old and old cars have a lot more problems than they did when new. Mercedes or not 16 years old and 240k miles corrosion and rust become major problems. In the last 2 years I've had every suspension,drivetrain, and break part out of this car. If you take your time and have some mechanical skill you can do it. These cars are pretty basic and are a great deal these days.

If your not sure about something just ask or do research on it first.

Steve

turbo1k 11-22-2016 09:22 PM

Not much progress today. Just removed the rear main seal and cover. Cleaned and installed the valve covers.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...41de5beab6.jpg

turbo1k 11-24-2016 09:33 AM

Resealed the upper and lower oil pans. Installed a new rear main seal. New exhaust manifold studs,nuts, and gaskets. Just about ready to go back in, hoping for tonight if I can get away.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...fc8d9a023c.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...8271f93e91.jpg

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...e3fb60f1e8.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...27d057d15b.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f4f879fedd.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...b5b2efb433.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...0efe76c45c.jpg

turbo1k 11-24-2016 11:13 AM

Wife said we weren't leaving until noon so I figured why not put the motor in.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...f174e02f78.jpg

ddb 11-24-2016 11:23 AM

Nice work!

IanB 11-24-2016 12:31 PM

Good stuff! I'm really glad you took lots of pics, I don't think I've seen another thread where anyone pulled the engine on one of these cars.

CharlyE500 11-24-2016 01:43 PM

:bow:

turbo1k 11-24-2016 08:18 PM

I was able to spend a few more hrs on her tonight. New water pump and thermostat.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1416de4c96.jpg

turbo1k 11-25-2016 05:53 PM

Intake is on and all wired up. I also split the intake and clean it up. Sorry no pics of that step. It was by far the worst part of the job. The egr tube was a little difficult and I broke the nipple off the solenoid on the front 😡 Going to attempt to fix that tomorrow. Just the O2 sensors, and everything in front of the motor. Putting a new condenser and fan shroud in.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...15a6e6accc.jpg

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...d4fcc5d52e.jpg

KJI3jflarryfe93 11-26-2016 06:34 AM

when you split the intake manifold, did you also replace the thin rubber air hose which is connected to EGR valve in front of the intake manifold?
rubber hose is on the under side in front of intake manifold.

when rubber hose goes brittle from engine heat it's a cheap part to buy, but you have to buy complete intake manifold fitted with rubber hose if you want to replace this brittle hose, and that's because of a design flaw from Mercedes engine team.
intake manifolds are only sold complete with rubber hose at stealership.

cheapest way to repair is to split intake like you did and do a MacGyver repair

turbo1k 11-26-2016 10:45 AM

The rubber hose was still in good shape and functioned fine. One thing I did do is put a bunch of silicone around the hose where it entered the manifold just to help protect it.

Got the new ac condenser in. Just waiting on some parts from Mercedes to finish this thing up.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mbw...1cfd203813.jpg

MNR 11-26-2016 10:55 AM

good god youve obviously done this before. i am a wiz at carbs and brakes but id never attempt to pull a motor!

turbo1k 11-26-2016 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by MNR (Post 6979280)
good god youve obviously done this before. i am a wiz at carbs and brakes but id never attempt to pull a motor!

Definitely not my first. I've been building and tuning Cars for 20plus years
I'm showing my age lol

Steve

CharlyE500 11-27-2016 08:23 PM

what header are you using ?


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