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Old Apr 19, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Thumbs down Gustav has lost it!

Gustav's road test & wet dream has slanted his perception of reality! Have you read the list of cars that the Hideous E60 M5 whips ?? Man, this guy must be really smoking that stuff that comes out of his exhaust pipes. I feel even more vindicated that I have left the roundel and come over to MBZ. It is the same thing with most of those people, "It beats TT Porches, Vipers, etc, etc.. I do not care how fast the ghastly looking thing is! I do not want to be affiliated with clowns like these anymore. I was hammered by a lot of those people during the Fire Bangle petition by being very vocal about the direction of BMW. I put my money where my mouth is and picked up my W211 E55 16 months ago and have loved it ever since. I know BMW, after 2 M3's and 1 M5, I believe BMW makes excellent performance cars, but the remaining followers have gone over the deep end and believe they are all F1 experts careening around the "Twisties" every day leaving all others, Vipers, TT Porsches, etc in their dust! Get the picture ??? F#@K him!! (ps Gustav, Ban Me too - EMMPWR )
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deaguero
Gustav has lost it!
Dude, "Gustav" never had it!
Who the fk is Gustaff?

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by deaguero
Gustav's road test & wet dream has slanted his perception of reality! Have you read the list of cars that the Hideous E60 M5 whips ?? Man, this guy must be really smoking that stuff that comes out of his exhaust pipes. I feel even more vindicated that I have left the roundel and come over to MBZ. It is the same thing with most of those people, "It beats TT Porches, Vipers, etc, etc.. I do not care how fast the ghastly looking thing is! I do not want to be affiliated with clowns like these anymore. I was hammered by a lot of those people during the Fire Bangle petition by being very vocal about the direction of BMW. I put my money where my mouth is and picked up my W211 E55 16 months ago and have loved it ever since. I know BMW, after 2 M3's and 1 M5, I believe BMW makes excellent performance cars, but the remaining followers have gone over the deep end and believe they are all F1 experts careening around the "Twisties" every day leaving all others, Vipers, TT Porsches, etc in their dust! Get the picture ??? F#@K him!! (ps Gustav, Ban Me too - EMMPWR )
phils da man! eat it gustav you little biaaaat$h
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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hasnt the m5 done 0-124 in 13,8 in a few mags?Thats faster than a tt porsche buddy.

Why do you start these threads your trying to start another war and should be put in time out or banned

You also started another about the tranny in the m5....grow the **** up
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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Why are you people wasting your breath talking about this crap? You're all sinking to low level. Personally, I really like the M5, I just don't believe a lot of what some folks are saying about it vs. all the other supercars. Regardless, you're only egging him on, so just give it up.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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A video trailer will be finished early next week. A full video will be on video-CD and if anyone can host it downloadable.

This car has a confirmed 0-200 km/h of 13,8 s from a Swedish magazine with proffesional equipment, with winter tyres actually.

Equal to Gallardo and 996 TT with 510 HP.

A bit faster than Viper over 150 km/h. Remember, Viper and M5 have the same time on Nürburgring.

E55 AMG = well, you already know that
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gustav
A video trailer will be finished early next week. A full video will be on video-CD and if anyone can host it downloadable.

This car has a confirmed 0-200 km/h of 13,8 s from a Swedish magazine with proffesional equipment, with winter tyres actually.

Equal to Gallardo and 996 TT with 510 HP.

A bit faster than Viper over 150 km/h. Remember, Viper and M5 have the same time on Nürburgring.

E55 AMG = well, you already know that
Let's wait for the car to be available here in the USA, then we can have a "fair" comparison. And if the new M5 can SIGNIFICANTLY outperform the current E55...well, and if I can learn to live with the bangle design, perhaps I may consider the new M5. Unless, the new E65 comes out sooner!
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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I dont see what was not fair with my comparison. Anyway, it will be alot easier to explain when the videos are online.

Did you notice the difference between a E39 M5 and the E60:

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...=video+e39+e60

The E39 had a new engine, I beleive we had S5 program, however it could have been S6.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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deaguero, you might re-read my oroignal post. I did not say leave Gallardo and Viper in the dust.. Far from it.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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You are giving BMW Drivers a bad name. Why cant we all just hate AUDI together?
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DancingBenzos
You are giving BMW Drivers a bad name. Why cant we all just hate AUDI together?
The absolutely BEST line of this entire deal.
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DancingBenzos
You are giving BMW Drivers a bad name. Why cant we all just hate AUDI together?

Well put dude, enough said..
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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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You know, I have to say....my hats off to Gustav for keeping his composure. His responses weren't "retaliations" and insted kept his cool.

This doesn't mean I'm "PRO" M5 all of a sudden...I've always just been a fan of cars in general. When I get my M5 (hopefully in Sep) I'll take her to the track and see how if does against stock E55 and Spero's "monster" E55. At the end of the day, we all still go home friends not giving 2 *****s about "who's d!ck is bigger", because after all, this whole mess is about that basically, isn't it?
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 07:39 AM
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Thanks E55_power.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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just run that M5 in the 1/4 mile already and see how it does..... or dyno it.... maybe it's making some obscene amount of unatural and unclaimed power....

it's all about physics here..... mostly power to weight.... and most of the claims are not lining up.... unless your definition of killing the other car is losing.... or everyone you're racing can't drive... which I doubt...

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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:01 AM
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Maybe its a US vs European thing. Drag strip are not common here in Sweden and races does not take place with an M5 on a dragstrip here. Here it is on unconjested highways vs. another powerful car, mostly on highways. Much like autobahns. Yes, streetracign from trafficlights does happen but that since those are mostly ion town the best races are tiehr on a track or on the highway from a rolling start.

That is why I doid not go to a drag strip. Also I did not want to abose the car with too many LC since the rearwheels were bad.

Also another variable is removed with rolling starts: the start. So I thought this was the best solution. Drag strips is not something for me and maybe not for the M5 either... I think it wil lshine even mroe in higher speeds, speeds that are acheived on autobahsn for example.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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You are giving BMW Drivers a bad name. Why cant we all just hate AUDI together?
True dat...Besides the Bangle Butt (sorry M guys but it won't grow on me like it does for you), the new Audi mug/grill is up there with Streisand's nose and Patrick Ewing's nostrils with respect to frontal fascia disability.

Gustav...as a previous and possible future owner of an M3 (the current bodystyle not the upcoming one) I have no ill will to the M division and respect them for engineering minds in terms of handling and track performance.

Good luck with your board...just stay even handed with your aggressive and inflammatory board members that you may have as you have with any cross posters from this board. Peace.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Sure. While this is "self regulating" (which I really think does not work) and m5board.com is not, I prefeer the later.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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heh... there are dragstrips in europe.... it's a "definitive" way to measure the performance...

the M5 can't be that bad off the line can it? even it is, the MPH trap speed at the end of the 1/4 tells the real story..... with your claims, it should be pulling 120 MPH at the end...




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Maybe its a US vs European thing. Drag strip are not common here in Sweden and races does not take place with an M5 on a dragstrip here. Here it is on unconjested highways vs. another powerful car, mostly on highways. Much like autobahns. Yes, streetracign from trafficlights does happen but that since those are mostly ion town the best races are tiehr on a track or on the highway from a rolling start.

That is why I doid not go to a drag strip. Also I did not want to abose the car with too many LC since the rearwheels were bad.

Also another variable is removed with rolling starts: the start. So I thought this was the best solution. Drag strips is not something for me and maybe not for the M5 either... I think it wil lshine even mroe in higher speeds, speeds that are acheived on autobahsn for example.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Come on, I now there is dragstrips in Europe. Europe is large. It is not the way I test cars. Up to 120 mph does not say alot, it is up to 150-160 mph that says more in my book.

I have not claimed anything regarding quarter mile, I have claimed rolling start from 50 km/h and 100 km/H the M5 is even and maybe a bit faster at higher speeds than many of todays "sportscars".

Again... There is more than the quarter mile and that is what the M5 will be used for . It seems difficlut to get over the fact for soem people that there are other measurments than the average lengths between a US stoplight...
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Sure. While this is "self regulating" (which I really think does not work) and m5board.com is not, I prefeer the later.
One could very easily argue/discuss that this board is a reflection of the national commitment of Freedom Of Speech/Thought. It allows diversity, differences of opinions, etc and thereby furthering growth both individually and as a whole.
Is that not so in your country? How else would one achieve individuality, growth, etc. Would that be considered positive or a one way track. How can progress be realized with stagnation and/or thought/expression control?
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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So lets take this off topic. In Sweden we also av a freedom of speech and freedom of press of course. However it would not be allowed to slander any individual on a public forum (for example the Gustav threads here). That would be an offense if would feel offended by them which I think is very fair.

I cannot see how the recent threads here in the E55 forum could be considered positive. If you are immature and like personal slander with no facts, then you might consider it positive.

I removed members from my site after they were engaged in discussions with personale attacks on other members. I strive for a positive climate, and whoever who does not like that is free to not join my site. Endless debates with members who refuse to see other posts and is in additoon to this behaving rude I see as contributos to my site.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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Let's wait for the car to be available here in the USA, then we can have a "fair" comparison.
Please explain to me whe a test in the US is gonna be fair, while every comparison made in Europe for some reasson is unfair. ?
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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So lets take this off topic. In Sweden we also av a freedom of speech and freedom of press of course. However it would not be allowed to slander any individual on a public forum (for example the Gustav threads here). That would be an offense if would feel offended by them which I think is very fair.

I cannot see how the recent threads here in the E55 forum could be considered positive. If you are immature and like personal slander with no facts, then you might consider it positive.

I removed members from my site after they were engaged in discussions with personale attacks on other members. I strive for a positive climate, and whoever who does not like that is free to not join my site. Endless debates with members who refuse to see other posts and is in additoon to this behaving rude I see as contributos to my site.
What you are saying then is that freedom of speech/thought/press is a valuable commodity as long as it doesn't offend anyone. Is that not a contradiction? How can you have one without the other? Your very own statement about "positive" is confusing. You seem to value it by your participation in these discussions but yet you want to control it and impose your definition as you see it. You afterall are in on these threads defending your positions. That seems to be of great value to you or you would not continue. This is positive for all concerned. But yet you want to reserve that right in your arena and categorically state that this would not be permitted if you were in control. It would also seem that requests for information/clarification are squelched by you but on this board you yourself are asking for it and are receiving it.
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Old Apr 23, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gustav
I removed members from my site after they were engaged in discussions with personale attacks on other members.
Gustav, you'll note that I have not posted anything concerning you or this issue for some time for the simple reason that I don't care. BUT, with your last post I am drawn to respond.

This is not the first time you have made the above accusation, see below:
Originally Posted by Gustav
You threathened to insult members which is against the rules.
https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....0&postcount=10

For the record, I am no longer banned on the M5 forum. NOW, for the last time- Please show one single word of any type of insult I posted on your board before you banned me. You've made the accusation, simply post it here and back it up. Good day.
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