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Old 05-06-2008, 08:31 PM
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4Matic AMG E Class?

Am I the only one who thinks that a 4Matic version of MBs E Class AMG would demolish Audis sales of the S6/RS6?
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Ya it would. Audis sales would go down the toilet.
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I'd absolutely love one and would trade my E55 wagon for one tomorrow. I live in snow country. I have an Explorer ONLY because the E55 is just so-so in the winter.
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Why doesnt AMG pull their heads out of their @$$e$ and use the 4Matic system that MB already has and just use it in the AMG E class?!?!?! It would sell like crazy and Audi wouldnt have the ***** to sell the S6/RS6 anymore, in ANY country. As much as I love the RS6, I would love it a lot less if the AMG E class had 4 wheel drive...
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Why doesnt AMG pull their heads out of their @$$e$ and use the 4Matic system that MB already has and just use it in the AMG E class?!?!?! It would sell like crazy and Audi wouldnt have the ***** to sell the S6/RS6 anymore, in ANY country. As much as I love the RS6, I would love it a lot less if the AMG E class had 4 wheel drive...
Even though I have no purpose for AWD in SoCal, it would be nice to have a car with 4Matic to take to the mountains in the snow instead of a bloody SUV.
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I wouldnt even take my car in the snow, but it would be nice to have that extra confidence through the turns. 4Matic is the only thing that could make me trade in my car. If these cars had 4Matic there wouldntbe a car out there that could touch them. It would truely be the pinnacle of the sport/luxury cars.
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Am I the only one who thinks that a 4Matic version of MBs E Class AMG would demolish Audis sales of the S6/RS6?
I just dont understand why they make cars with 700-1000nm of torque and then leave the traction to 2 wheels???!!!
Wasnt there a w210 4matic???
Now with the R and ML 63's 4matic I am sure they will be available in other AMG cars soon too.
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I just dont understand why they make cars with 700-1000nm of torque and then leave the traction to 2 wheels???!!!....
I don't understand why they make cars with 700-1000nm of torque and an automatic transmission??!!
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I don't understand why they make cars with 700-1000nm of torque and an automatic transmission??!!
For the same reason that high-HP Supra owners often convert their 6-speeds to ATs.

It's the best solution for the chosen application.
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I just dont understand why they make cars with 700-1000nm of torque and then leave the traction to 2 wheels???!!!
Wasnt there a w210 4matic???
Now with the R and ML 63's 4matic I am sure they will be available in other AMG cars soon too.
I believe a handful of cars (3-5?) were custom-built for some Russian customers a few years back.

It required modification of the floorpan and added 200+ kilos to the car's already hefty weight.

Newer 4-matic is more compact, lighter.
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If you search E55 Rush posts you might find the CLS 55 4matic they have in rusha
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Originally Posted by ChicagoX
I believe a handful of cars (3-5?) were custom-built for some Russian customers a few years back.

It required modification of the floorpan and added 200+ kilos to the car's already hefty weight.

Newer 4-matic is more compact, lighter.
Not to mention the not so insignificant amount of jack it would take to add...I think Victor had addressed this in threads way back...weight and cost were limiting factors.
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I just dont understand why they make cars with 700-1000nm of torque and then leave the traction to 2 wheels???!!!
2-wheels?? Yeah right if the AMG'd car had the optional LSD!!??!!
Most of us are burnin' tires on 1-wheel since a vast majority of AMG's DO NOT have LSD rears (or any type of posi rears)!! ARRGHHHH!!!
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For the same reason that high-HP Supra owners often convert their 6-speeds to ATs.

It's the best solution for the chosen application.
Nice one!!

BUT, I'll say those Supra owners that convert to auto are doing it for dragging. Plenty of high hp Supras (and other cars) out there who would NEVER convert to auto.

Actually, I apologize, my post was OT. The topic was about AWD AMG's, not stick shift AMG'S.
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Even with the added price and weight, I think that if MB makes the E63 AMG, Audi wouldnt have the ***** to sell the RS6 even in Europe.
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I've often asked myself just that. The added weight of the AWD would be partially offset by the fact the car could finally get decent traction off the line instead of loosing power to wheel spin. I live in the Seattle area where it rains constantly and I'm tired of having a supercar only in the dry. When it rains, my wife driving her Infiniti FX45 embarrasses me in streetlight drag races. Of course there is no comparison when it's dry out but why should I live in shame half the year?
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Originally Posted by AMG Speed
I've often asked myself just that. The added weight of the AWD would be partially offset by the fact the car could finally get decent traction off the line instead of loosing power to wheel spin. I live in the Seattle area where it rains constantly and I'm tired of having a supercar only in the dry. When it rains, my wife driving her Infiniti FX45 embarrasses me in streetlight drag races. Of course there is no comparison when it's dry out but why should I live in shame half the year?
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I dont really have any trouble with my car in the rain (not that it ever rains in SoCal, but when it does I do fine), but I would just love to be able to take those turns better. Imagine driving through the canyons in a 4WD E55/63! I know you're all smiling now. The 4WD is the only thing that makes me love the S6/RS6 (im still madly in love with the old RS6) but if the E55 had it I wouldnt even hesitate about hesitating.

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