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WHAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE(S) THAT WE FACE WITH A TT SETUP?

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Old 06-22-2008, 12:59 AM
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WHAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE(S) THAT WE FACE WITH A TT SETUP?

I forgot the main issue's can someone refresh me in short (if it's possible)
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Blackbenzz has a very valid point and I agree 100% fueling and tuning with the OEM ECU, will have someone pulling their hair out. I would also like to add plumbing to the list, plain and simple not much room left.

A side note here, many marine engines are compound engines (turbo and supercharger combination) that work quite well the supercharger provides copious amounts of torque at off idle RPMs and the turbos provide the same effect on the upper RPM ranges.

We are lucky to have the supercharger and bypass valve already on our cars. This arrangement lends it self favorably to a compound arrangement. I am interested to see the one car undergoing a twin turbo install now.
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Originally Posted by Yacht Master
Blackbenzz has a very valid point and I agree 100% fueling and tuning with the OEM ECU, will have someone pulling their hair out. I would also like to add plumbing to the list, plain and simple not much room left.

A side note here, many marine engines are compound engines (turbo and supercharger combination) that work quite well the supercharger provides copious amounts of torque at off idle RPMs and the turbos provide the same effect on the upper RPM ranges.

We are lucky to have the supercharger and bypass valve already on our cars. This arrangement lends it self favorably to a compound arrangement. I am interested to see the one car undergoing a twin turbo install now.
So these are the main issues or are there more?
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Originally Posted by Hammer Down
So these are the main issues or are there more?
Once you adress the previously mentioned problems (definitely not an easy task, stand alone engine management looks like the only option right now) then you have to see how much the stock block can hold, not to mention the trans/axles/rear end

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Are stand alone options very costly? I would think that if someone was going to invest the time and money into a project like this that would be the only way to go, right?
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Are stand alone options very costly? I would think that if someone was going to invest the time and money into a project like this that would be the only way to go, right?
LET is doing a TT install right now on a C32. Native ECU tuning will be used, no standalone. Check the C32 section - it's close to done !!!
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Piston strength. Stock units are cast, I believe. Detonation = bad.
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Vadim is working on a Twin Turbo setup for the SL65, so I'm sure he's working on a good solution for these issues as well.
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I always thought that pistons and rods won' able to take much more power. Sorry, thats coming from a volvo guy
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Vadim is working on a Twin Turbo setup for the SL65, so I'm sure he's working on a good solution for these issues as well.
Shouldn't be too hard for Vadim, considering SL65's are TT from the factory
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Shouldn't be too hard for Vadim, considering SL65's are TT from the factory
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I always thought that pistons and rods won' able to take much more power. Sorry, thats coming from a volvo guy
Simply running the same boost level without the Kompressor should see over 100hp gain.....
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No parasitic loss from the engine and less heat

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