jangy

Lets set up the tuner blow outs!! I've begged for it long enough and now we have a few new bucks that talk the talk, but ride in on scooters..

BTW, Rick....... what brand you gonna rep as the fastest 63 on the PLANET?

jangy

Getting 1000hps out of an MB with reasonable resources is a task. Getting zillions out of a ford is easy. And? We don't take pride in having the fastest cars in the world, but the fastest MBs. An MB is a tough cookie to tune, and most especially because of the ECU / TCU tune, and I'd guess TQ converter. You blowing off any need to have experience or at least a plan to LEARN about the MBs is so telling in itself. Don't get it wrong. You sound just like the American car tuner I spoke with last week (also considers himself king of the hemis). I'm sure he would assume that his pep boy tools would be easily modified to tune Benzes as well. For the last time, are you sure you aren't talking about the Sprintbooster?

You say you have a C63 that will have ECU / TCU upgrades and beat a stage 5 E55 in a 1/4 mile race? all day, everyday. I'll line up ANYDAY and most evenings. Please bring cash or graciously back out as the last poser did.

How do you dyno? Please tell us the conditions and how you baseline. If you correct for drivetrain loss, etc. please explain reasoning and margin of fudge. I'm hung on the TCU making peak HP. Only if the tranny was slipping. I can see potential for more power in the useable band (under the curve) and overall car performance enhancement from more controlled and predictable shifts so just curious.

lexaltezza

This is probably more ECU related, but since you guys have "cracked the code," any chance of adding throttle blipping on manual downshifts for those of us that lack it?

MHP

Now you're talking! I'm all for some good old fashioned heads up racing!

So far at 600 miles in bone stock trim my C63 put down 376rw SAE on a dynojet. It ran a best of 12.89@111.4 in 2000'+ DA air (corrected to a 12.5@116) again in bone stock trim. I need to weigh the car but I check in at 205lbs.
I'll post before/after graphs with ECU/TCU tuning and track results including A/F data next week.

Andy0331

This horse has been beat to death, but based on what you say above, why should anyone here believe that you make the best stuff? You've been honest & told us that you are new to the MB tuning world; why should anyone pick you?

Reasons to pick MHP:

1. Better pricing? Maybe, remains to be seen.

2. Better product? Maybe, remains to be seen.

3. Customer service? Maybe, remains to be seen, but thus far doesn't look so hot. Based on this thread, I would hate to buy one of your mods & have a problem, you talk as if you could do no wrong and your customers are stupid.

You can't be that overwhelmed or you wouldn't be pushing new products into the marketplace. Bringing on more help means you have to find equally skilled workers/fabricators, or you're quality control goes down as well. My friendly suggestion is that you ease into the performance MB market.

My last suggestion would be for you to spend some time reading some of the posts here. You will find that of all the MB/AMG boards & forums out there, this particular W211 E55 & E63 forum is the most frequented & "mod-oriented". There are lots of us who are willing to push the envelope to get peak performance out of our cars, testing new, unproven things or even trying stuff on our own. You will also learn more about other tuners & what they actually offer, since you admitted you didn't know what products they have.

Hell, VRP was essentially founded right here, by users who were pioneering new things & many jumped on board with them. Victor simply was pushing the envelope on his own car & found a following that then created a demand. Much like it seems that you are doing, except your ego is kinda in the way.

I run a Kleemann stage 2 on my car with a VRP carbon fiber airbox & tubes, but I'm not particulary loyal to either; I'm more than willing to give someone else a shot. However, I'm not interested in beta testing performance products on my car; I'll wait for real results rather than blindly believing "my stuff is better than the others" when you aren't familiar with what the others really do.

E55texas

This is not a Mercedes transmission so I am sure nobody on this board gives a **** how much it can lock

MHP

That is one thing we haven't had the time to look into yet. I'll put it on the list.

Thanks

MHP

Hilarious response, especially considering you don't know what tranny 63 AMGs use.

jangy

when is someone going to enhance some cooling on the 63s? they SUCK in real-life on soaking heat. Add a cooling kit so you can take advantage of the top end. Using various gaskets is cool and all, but the only time I've used spacers is to drop compression pressure so we could BOOST!!

juicee63

Great man!!!

So add some headers, cams, a tune (tcu, ecu) and some super light wheels and a CF hood and race the evosport 63 black series. Teach Jimmy he will not be alone at the top forever. Rick and I (pleasse agree rick) will pilot the Renntech/Vrp Supercharged CLS 63 and see who comes out on top. Course Rick weighs 130 lbs wet so he likely wins in any car!

jangy

Is that something that is ECU, TCU, or ECU / TCU related? The one you "haven't had time to look into". You have an awe-inspiring setup to show and it doesn't even have the AMG blips? LOL!!!

rarfinancial

I now have two major teams on my list and thinking of adding a third new comer. In sports it takes a team to win, not just one hot shot. Just think of the power we would get out of our AMG's if the tunners got together and built one MONSTER AMG OPPS, Sorry for the highjack Andy

E55texas

You are right I don't I was just guessing an answer

MB Fanatic

So MHP, is the transmission in my SL63 the same as say your C63? Think you can crack that?

E55texas

No, i am guessing. I don't think this guy could crack a walnut if he had too

jangy

ROFL!!! Man, I spit up soda on that one...

MHP

I'm not worried about anything, are you?

Scrutinized by you? LMAO.


If you bring attitude to me, I'm going to dish it back to you. Can you grasp that simple theory?

WTF are you talking about? We aren't building off of anyone's products never have, never will. What's this about elaborate tales? I'm sorry, I'm lost...

Let's do it. Set it up. Let's see what the major respective tuners can do with their 6.2s...and I'll take those bets all day long.

Again, I'm sorry, what exactly do you do besides incoherent nonsense, thump your chest, and follow the pack?

Next week for my ECU/TCU tuning, the following week for the other 63s and 65s.

Please learn how to quote so it doesn't take me an hour to respond.

MHP

TCU, yes, if you want the best built 7A tranny talk to Paramount Performance.

MHP

C63s have rev matching from the factory so I never really thought about it.

MB Fanatic

So you can crack the MCT which is very much different from a regular 7G tronic transmission.

E55texas

agreed this guy is a fraud

jangy

HAHAHA!! Rick, just please let me know when you go into office, because i want to be on your campaign .

We are all ******* children, but you can't tune with 3. Crap happens and then all you'll see is heels and tail and maybe a handful of fingers. Your RennTech exhaust is first rate!! They make many products that are great, including tunes for CLS/E 63s, but not ones that are SCARY fast like a stage 5 on the 55K that many have. Without such a package, ALL of the 63s are limited, including Black Series.

MHP

I think the only real way to do a fair comparison is to modify the same model of vehicle, unless you're going to go solely on dyno results which I don't think anyone would want. Otherwise we're going to run into so many variables (weight, suspension, gearing, etc.).

MB Fanatic

Hell even the folks at Renntech don't have an SL63 TCU update yet and this guy is claiming he does. Something seriously sounds fishy with this one.

E55texas

So stop comparing your skills on funny car motors and ford bull **** to other peoples skills with Mercedes. you mod a 55 motor and then open your big mouth