MHP

We have just decided (against our better judgement including that of our legal counsel) to do TCU only reflashes for AMG 55/65 variants with aftermarket ECU tunes. The TCU tune will not be as optimal as if we were to do both ECU and TCU together, but there will be a huge difference from where you are now.

With stage I TCU tuning you can expect:

1) Consistant shift points for all gears (even 1-2)

2) Stock or raised shift points

3) Quicker/Firmer shifts (reduced lag in manual mode as well)

4) Reduced TCM torque management

5) Throttle blipping/rev matched downshifts.


Before sending us your TCM you will be required to sign a liability waiver/disclaimer stating that we (MHP) are not responsible for any driveline damage incurred after the installation of our reflashed TCM whether it be engine or transmission related. That's the only way we'll do it at this point, unless you have a stock ECU.

Pricing for stage I tuning is as follows:

AMG 55s: $3500

AMG 65s: $4000

Stage II pricing (if you send us a laundry list of what you want done):

AMG 55s: $4250

AMG 65s: $4750

I'll post pricing for 600s in the near future.

You asked for it, now you have it.

phatmitzu

Better.

How about the shifter paddles? Did you guys fix the delay on that as well?

MHP

Yes, sorry, I'll edit that in as well.

Thanks
Andy

blackbenzz

Nice, in for results on the 5 speed trans. To be honest it is a bit pricey.

I Like Soup

Andy,

I know this is the watered down version of your TCU tune, but do you have any idea what to expect on the hp/torque front after reducing the TCM torque management? I'm thinking you haven't played around with the 55's as much yet, but I could be wrong. Thanks!

enzom

Have you dyno'd or track tested your ECU/TCU mods on a bone stock 55?

Roseylv

I commend your efforts...
But, in market such as our, your pricing must be competitive or your product must be FAR superior than the others.

I too would love to see some dyno / 1/4 testing on a bone stock or even a modded 55

BlackOnBlackCLK

why the price hike?

on bgchrysler.com its only 1400-2000 for tcu tune

NXtremeJeep

Profit...$3500 for a tranny tune is way to pricey for some firmer shifts and adjustable shift points.

Just my .02

Stryker

No throttle blipping????

Timeless

Because this is mbworld.org...I mean really.

BlackOnBlackCLK

Gotcha

The Godfather

lol wtf this is ridiculous pricing!

MHP

Dave's site needs to be updated and he's not selling directly for MBs, only through MHP.
I've said it before and evidently it needs to be said again. Our ECU/TCU tuning is custom, it's not a matter of copying code or tables from one control unit to another. TCU tuning takes a LOT of time to be done correctly.

Thanks

MHP

It includes throttle blipped downshifts.

I'll edit that in as well.

MHP

Honestly, if you don't like the pricing, try someone else's TCU tuning.

Anyone that complains obviously doesn't have the first clue as to what kind of work it takes to flash a TCU, otherwise you'd be in business.

What else is there to complain about? We're doing something we definitely shouldn't be by mating our TCUs to other aftermarket ECUs to appease what seemed to be a majority of owners on this site. Tomorrow there will be more gripes about something else. "Why aren't you giving your tuning away for free?"

The pricing is what it is, and will remain where it is. It may not be for everyone but then again, those with the knowledge and understanding of why our products are superior won't have a problem with the cost.

Thanks

MHP

No one else in the world can flash a TCU, so not only is it superior, we're the only ones that do it.

There's a good chance we'll be tuning Rock's TCU in the next week or two. If you're on the fence just kick back.

Thanks

richtor

wow is all i can say!

those that have an amg merc or 600 variant should have no say on what is expensive and what is not. you will lose a hell of a lot more than 4k or 6k in only 2 years of ownership with your luxury item!

if you cant afford a 5k upgrade on your 50k car you dont need, you should not be looking at any mods once so ever!
if you think their are better mods for that same 5k then say that. that is great critique. my personal feeling is that you will not have your ultimate daily driver until you fix your tcu/ecu and have them work together!

yes it is expensive but so is that car you love to drive!!!!

blackbenzz

Are you for real? So just because a person drives a $50k car they should spend $5k on mods without questioning it? That kind of thinking is probably why you are driving a Ford Ranger. Come on man, its not a question of whether we can afford it, the question is "Is it worth it?"

And since you brought it up. You can get the trans built and modify the torque converter fort hat kind of money. Modifying the tc will help stall speed beyond that of a tune and modifying the valve body will increase line pressure therefore increasing shift firmness and speed. Not ot mention the added benefit of having a built trans to hold more power.

MHP

What's the total amount of $ you've spent on mods so far?

V12Godspeed

All I know is that CLK of yours will fly...just spot me a few car lenghts....lol!!

MHP

Yes, modding the valve body will give you hard shifts, in fact it will give you whiplash and it will shift that way all the time including part throttle. Even if you have a race car (the only scenario in which you'd want the valve body mod) you'd still need TCU tuning unleash the true potential of the motor. There's no tq management hidden in the VB, nor can you change shift points, etc.
Also being that AMG 55s are $3500 I'm not sure where you're getting $5000?

blackbenzz

More than I'd like to think about lol.

Not necessarily. I have friends with modified valve bodies and they do not shift as harsh as you say. The car drives normal until you go WOT, at least thats what it felt liek to me. That being said, you are correct that changing shift points would require a TCU tune as well as torque management. I dont believe my car has any torque management. I'm not knocking your product Andy, just replying to that guys post (who mentioned $5k, not me). I applaud your efforts and hope to see great results from your products

MHP

Ahmad,

I hear that. BTDT myself.

That being said, you still aren't seeing the full potential of the mods you have because there is so much TM in the TCU. Unless it's reflashed you aren't ever going to see it.

I've personally never been in a valve body modified trans equipped vehicle that didn't shift like a bat out of hell all the time. Again that's just me...

Thanks
Andy

MHP

Yes, we already have 55 cals on file. Obviously they need to be modified to your exact mods but the baseline tunes are already complete.

Here's what I've decided to do, I'm looking for one example (not tester, we don't test on other people's cars) to run our TCU tune; preferably someone with little or no mods (pulley/ECU is fine since most of you seem to have that anyway). In return for before/after track results and subjective feedback reg. shift points, firmness, eliminated delay, etc. said owner will receive a significantly reduced rate. I'd rather have someone that runs at the track regularly, uses 93 octane, and has sticky tires to take advantage of the extra power we're going to let loose.
This is a one time only deal, we will not be doing anymore discounted tunes. If you're interested please PM me and we'll get started right away. I want as much data to be posted as soon as possible.

Thanks
Andy