Star Diagnostic How To DIY with lots o pics
 

So I thought I would help out a few MB brothers with a couple star diagnostic tutorials...

First, Lowering the car.
Get to the 211 Section
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You will get to the main menu
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Then go to Func perf by more than...
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Then Chassis
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Then Level adj
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Then Suspension
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And here is where people have problems, they just go to actuations and then lower it, IT WILL NOT STAY LOWERED this way, you have to go to initial startup
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Then Initial with manual settings
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Then F2
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Here you will see a screen that shows the voltages which correspond to the height of the vehicle. they must be within the given ranges in the left hand column. use the + and - buttons to lower the car (In my screenshot I am in the car with a friend in the back seat, so that is why it is at 3.27, it should not exceed 3) Then hit F2
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Enter in these inclination angles and if the car is within the voltages supplied in the page before, the car will accept the new lowered setting, if not it will reject it.
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Now, how to activate the unlock and lock beep (honestly, one of the best mods to do if you have an older model e55 :D)
First Control units
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Then Body
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Then rear SAM
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Then Control unit adaptations
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Then national version of ATA function
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At this screen you will see a pull down menu with a list of different regions on it. The only ones you need to worry about are USA with buzzer and Netherlands. If you choose USA, i will give you three short quick beeps when you lock the car and one short when you unlock it. Netherlands will give you three longer beeps when you lock the car and one long when you unlock it. Personal preference on which one you like. Then hit F3
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Then F3(YES)
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Hope this helps out some people. I really did not find a good DIY for Star Diagnostics, so I thought I would help out!

Thanks
Aleks

EDIT: Info for -10 Mod added

DUDE!

This information is invaluable. THX!

omg....this is what everyone needs to get the STARS lowering...too bad i just bought the renntech ELM V2:-(

Kudos to you my friend!!!

If you lower the car from that screen does it lower the raised setting also? I am asking becasue it looks more like you are calibrating the sensors then setting the normal ride height.

Thanks Aleks!! Heading to do this tomorrow. :y

This needs to be added to the DIY thread ASAP. Great info !!!

How about turning on the Bluetooth puk? Thanks

guys so sorry for asking a stupid question....but is this REALLY a way to lower my cost without having to pay so much for a lowering module???????????
if so shall i get in contact with a STAR programmer??


PLEASE HELP!!!!

lower my car**********

return it :)) Aleksander, Thanks a lot!! Can we buy you a beer when you will be in DC? Much appreciated.

I have the car that was lowered through this process, I am pleased!

Complete hijack here, but if anyone is interested, I've got a RENNtech ELM (lowering module - v1) for sale. PM me. :D

I think I need to buy a DAS.

Aleks, is this the MB OEM one or the Chinese clone that you have?

all this time, i thought SDS lowering was done in developer mode... :bow:

Aleksander, is it possible for you to make DIY for -10 Mod :) I know that I am asking for too much

that one is easy... :naughty:

The crowd chants MORE MORE MORE

Temporary sticky for valuable info. If OP wants to make more of this I'd suggest he'd a complete info thread that MBW can make a permanent sticky.

Thanx OP.

nice write up!

let's make this official version coding thread! :y

+1000000

Awesome thread, very valuable information. Thanks for taking the time to post this thread :y

Excellent Alek!

THANK YOU ALEK

Wow! So this helped out more than I thought! I was looking for the tread and then I saw it, sticky!!! Awesome! Glad it helps! I will update with the -10 mod tomm.

Thanks for making it a sticky, I'm sure this will take out some of the mysteries people are charging big money for!

Thanks
Aleks

This will allow the fan to turn on earlier to cool the engine sooner than stock.
First go to Control Units
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Then Drive
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Then ME 2.8
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Then Control Unit adaptations
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Then Correction Programing
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Then Electric Suction Fan
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Then Hit F4 until it changes to -10 and hit F2
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i believe you actually want it to say positive 10 and not negative ten for the fan to turn on sooner....

I get everything but this part.

• No one should be in the car when you lower it right?
• How are your lowering it to make sure its level in Manual mode?
• Do you have the level sensors or just eye balling it?
• Will it lower the car in real time or do I need to disconnect and start up the car to see changes?

I want to try this next week but would like to make sure I don't mess anything up. Thanks in advance guys!

GREAAAT THREAD!!!

now a question... when i first purchased my car, my adaptive headlights used to move around a LOT... i took the car to the dealer cause the previous owner messed with the suspension lowering settings, and they flashed it all back to stock but my headlights didnt move as greatly as before... did you find anywhere that you can adjust this? mine used to move left/right quite a bit, right now its very subtle...

Boy 2009 sure has been the year of miracles for us W211 guys. First 211 in the 10's 1/4 mile and now THIS!!! WOW!!

Thanks again Aleks!!

Only one quick thing.

On the -10 mod info. It's always been a tricky thing but if I am not mistaken, your info to hit f4 might not be correct.

It's been coined the -10c mod so I think that throws a lot of people off when they get to Star.

If you hit F5 and increase the correction value, the fan will come on sooner. Least that is what I have always been taught since VRUS discovered it years ago.

Check out the instructions on the screen. I know it's a bit confusing, but I really think you need to hit F5 and increase the correction value to it's max.

Heh didn't want the guys to have their fans turn on later than stock in the warm climates. They would riot.

I will see if I can find VRUS's post on this.

Otherwise, rock on!!!Attachment 383593

Yeah it's confirmed. Ya gotta hit F5 and increase the correction value in order for the fan to come on 10c earlier. Sounds weird but it's correction value in Star.

Maybe wanna edit that Aleks so future guys aren't heating up the engine 10c.

https://mbworld.org/forums/1632826-post24.html



THANKS SO MUCH FOR POSTING THE LOWERING INFO!!

The secret is finally out after all these years!

Gonna try it this weekend!

Yup!! Sorry, you are correct, it is F5 for sure!! Thanks for the find man! It wont let me go back and edit the post!

Im glad that this helped! :y

Thanks,
Aleks

Excuse for the noob questions, but I tried searching and couldn't find the answer....

How are you guys accessing STAR? Are you guys going to a local shop/stealership or are you actually accessing this through your own laptop with STAR diagnostic sw installed? If so, where can I get the correct plug with the port to connect to the car?

Thanks in advance
-Frank

Great job Aleks

Aleksander1099,

I just would like to thank you for the information, about lowering my E63. I emailed this information, to my local indy shop Benz Elite Automotive in Alexandria, VA.
They were so greatful for the information, that they lowered my car free of charge.
I couldn't be more happier, of the outcome, then I am right now.

Thank you, Thank you
Thank you so much

I'm sorry but I'm a noob also and I was wondering the same thing as FCSmthree (post#32)
How do you access the program.
I'm sure its a cable and software how can I get my own.

Thanks -
E55 - It was worth the wait

:bow: Kudos to you Sir alexsandar1099 da great

That is absolutely awesome to hear!! :y

In regards to where to purchase star, it is not cheap. Others have found it certian places on the internet, I saw they sell a chinese copy on ebay for about $2000. I bought an authentic one from a seller here in chicago, and it is not cheap. It is probably easier to get a friend at the dealer :D :D

With this setup does this retain the factory highest setting or lower it as well?

Anyone with star in NY/NJ to lower my car ASAP!! PM me.

Would love to see how to turn on the bluetooth puck to take to the dealership as they say it cannot be done.

Thank you very much for this post. I sent it to Star Motors here in Kansas City and the tech read it and agreed to give it a try for me. I wanted a really small amount of lowering - 4-5 mm in back and 8-10 mm up front. With the instruction all went perfectly - we even used the opportunity to perfectly level the car side-to-side. All done for $105.98

THANK YOU aleksandar1099 :):bow:

http://www.usa2strokers.com/forum/up...5/DSCF0021.JPG

http://www.usa2strokers.com/forum/up...5/DSCF0027.JPG

This post is awesome! Do you happen to know how to turn off the annoying "Don't forget key" buzzer everytime I leave the car? I'm so use to it now that I'll leave my lights on because I think it's my key warning.

top thread, will try this tonight!
theres a few other things you can do with star in dev mode which may be of interest
1. Activate VIM
2. Remove VMAX (speed restriction)
3. Activate Remaining fuel display in IC
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6907/tankq.jpg
4. active cornering fog lights
5. Alarm beep on activation
5. Seat belt alarm deactivate
6. flashing brake light on hard brake\flashing hazards


I will add locations in star for these functions over the next few days after i have confirmed them!

Any other functions which should be in the list, add away! :)

Alps

activate VIM ? what is this?

alek,awesome job,would you be willing to chat about star diag?

Sure, send me a PM, or post in the thread! :y

as far as i remember..

VIM = Video In Motion

:y

VIM is doable, BUT only if you have development mode STAR.

theres a few other things that can be done on the w211

- Flashing brake lights on hard braking (or have flashing blinkers on hard braking)
- cornering foglights

Thanks for the great post!

Does anyone have a STAR connection in the LA Area? I would love to activate the -10C mode + lower my car

Thanks for any help

I don't see how the foglights can corner. It doesn't look like there's any sort of motor or mechanism for it inside the housing.

I think he means the fogs will work like the new cars do. The fogs don't actually turn.

They are connected to the steering sensor. When you are turning left, the left fog light will come on...etc.

At least i am assuming that's what he means.

Does anyone have a Star Diag. connection in the Los Angeles area. I am dying to lower my car and do the -10c mod.

I had a great connection in Nevada although I have yet to find someone whom I am comfortable with here in LA

Any help will be appreciated

So does the -10 setting replace the need for the PTE thermostat mod or do they go hand in hand??

So did anyone ever figure out where you can enable the cornering fog lamps? I can't understand any of the German in that pic, so I need to know precisely which option to enable so I can have my SA do it.

I am working on getting my star to get developer mode. If anyone knows any tricks to get it, let me know!!!

Ill post up more DIY material once I can get dev mode up and running! I cant even imagine how absolutely amazing it would be if it is actually possible to enable Video in Motion on US cars just by going through star!!!! :D

in US command Center? Really? LMK.

no sorry not in us models comand but only in us models car with ece model comand.

4. active cornering fog lights
This is not done in development mode, just go into left and right same into adaptation and turn it on, you have to do both, then verify the setting stayed in both.
5. Seat belt alarm deactivate
This i haven't been able to find yet, i dont mind the light but the chime can be annoying
6. flashing brake light on hard brake\flashing hazards
This is also not in dev mode, its in the rear sam i believe. I have it set in my vehicle but i have yet to slam on the brakes with somebody watching the back of my car. Maybe this weekend Ill do it on the street where I work it gets empty on saturdays.

Does anyone know how to turn off the "Don't Forget Key" chime? It's annoying and when I accidently leave my lights on I always think it's my don't forget key chime.

another feature i would like but havent had a chance to experiment with is getting the fog lights to run in auto mode. Then we wont have to touch the light switch

new to the forum here. just got my e63.
where do you get the star diagnostic tool/software/program?
thanks

where do you get this star diagnostic tool?
new to the forum, sorry for the ignorance.

how do you know if you have development mode Star?

WTF!
I need this in sweden ! .. anyone? :)

I had the tech at the MB dealer here in Naples help me out with the lowering. He plugged it in, we played around with it for 30 min., set it. Done. No charge and looks great!
thanks for the info here on the site.

Does anyone have information regarding folding mirrors via remote fob?

I contacted steve from mbenznl and this was his response:

versioncoding for the auto folding mirrors is to be found in the instrument cluster,

system diagnose,

leftside door control module

If anyone has a picture guide or more details on this i would appreciate it. Also does anyone know about the ''uk delete mod'' it basically allows you to see fuel in gallons on the display.

Thanks Jazz

Hi could you ellobarate a little more on what you mean please as i want to give this a try but i was hoping you could give a little more details please

Thanks Jazz

edit: i read your post wrong '' just go into left and right same '' I suppose you mean sam, Clears things up a bit

Anyone knows or has access to SDS in Chicago/Milwaukee area? I'm willing to drive over to have these mods done. :)

exactly sorry I typed it in a hurry and didn't proof read.

The forgot key one I'm 90% sure its possible I vaguely remember doing it for someone with keyless go a year or so ago. Weather here sucks so not working today. If its not too cold and I'm not too lazy Ill take the system home this weekend and mess with my car.

Ok, what program are you guys using and where do you connect to ?
and cable you use..?

Im also trying to look to eliminate this anoying beeping of the "dont forget key" message.
Hope you can tell us how to erase it some day

Couple of tips to keep in mind when your setting your ride height.

1) Start your car, hit the raise button, wait 2 min, hit the raise(lower) button again to settle you car.

2) When you go into your Initial Setup Screen, have your computer outside your car with wires running through your open window. You probably don't have a Romess meter, but you can quickly measure the front wheels and rear wheels to make sure they are at matching height or close as possible while pressing (+/-) raising/lowering your car by each wheel. I measured from ground to fender. It really doesnt matter if your lowest or highest at this point, just make sure your fronts and your rears are close as possible from left to right.

3) Then press F2 when you within the listed specs and enter your Angles: i.e. 3.2 Front and -1.2 Rear worked great on my CLS55 This set my height at 26.25" front and 26.5" rear.

4) exit out of the DAS, disconnect cables.

5) Turn off your ign switch and remove key. then turn your car back on, and follow Step 1. Your settings will take place as long as your car's initial angles were in spec.

Sorry! Have been away for a while! If anyone still has the info on the developer mode please let me know!!!

I will look for the "Dont forget key" and other dev mode mods when I get it!!!

Thanks
Aleks

where is the best place to buy the star program

I purchased an authentic German star system from a seller local here in Chicago, but I have seen a lot of people have good luck with the system off of ebay...

thats what im hoping. just so many options, can anyone refer me to a kit on ebay?

Or see below.

Where are you located in Texas. I am looking at getting one of these and could adjust your options Cheap. I am up near Tyler TX.

Anyone close to Springfield Missouri that would be willing to do some mods? I'd be willing to drive somewhere if they would be willing to help :D

can someone show or list the info , for the 93 octane table set. what every happen to the guy who as showing the german screen. to turn off speed limiter and the other options he listed.

Thanks knowledge is power.

anyone found the flash on hard braking? or the fog light mod?

I got it from ebay, and works excellent.

Im still waiting to know how to remove the anoying "dont forget key" chime when you open/close the door.

anyone?

mines already removed "i didnt do it"
but id like to know how you do it

any one have Developer keygen

nevermind i have a the keygen now

ok theeddie
fill us in on all the good info.

ive have figured out the add many gallons are left in tank so far.

ill work on more tomorrow. but without knowing German its tough

This question was asked before but I don't see an answer. Can you just purchase the Star software and use your own laptop?

yes , its usually , hardrive/software with lots of cables and a box to hook everything together .

Thanks!

Can you share Developer Keygen?

shoot me a pm

Thank you for the help! I will post up more star mods as I come across them! :y

Alignment
 

Have any of you performed the lowering via Star in your garage, and if so, did you get an alignment immediatly?

I see the "correct" way in on an alignment rack, however I am guessing there are more than a few DIY guys here.. :naughty:

I did the usa stye with buzzer mod yesterday to my uk w211 e220 2006
it makes the beeps as it should but it is very quiet. You can hardly hear it.

Is everyones like this?


also for the power fold mirrors on remote lock

My mechanic got to left door control module
and then it said someething along the lines of auto mirror dim and fold on parking. it said not fitted, and im sure all you had to do was change it to fitted but my mechanic says he is not going to take the risk..
Can anyone confirm how to do this mod.

Thanks
Jazz

I'm blown away, I fancy some of these little mods, vim, 155 limiter removal, lock/unlock beeps, need a man that can with a Star system in Cheshire, England :D

If you back one screen out, you should see a volume percent. Mine was only 20 after I changed to usa buzzer. I set it at 40 and it's just about right.

Star Diagnostic-XENTRY
 

If you want a complete DAS with fantastic support, get it direct from the source http://ecartool.com/

They include EVERYTHING from multiplexers to all cables for all models. This is the real deal!. It comes from Taiwan. The wiz-kids have cracked all the DB security and if you have a problem they will correct it online with TeamViewer. Just don't mess with the system as it is very sensitive to MS updates and stuff and don't add additional software like Firefox or JAVA. DB actually uses a modifided XP OS and if it ain't right it shuts down DAS.

Support is the key word. I bought a cheap ($580 shipped) system with multiplexer, all cables, and ibm preloaded T30 harddrive. XP came up nicely and added a few native system drivers and then, my DAS wouldn't load becase the version was dated. Got around this problem by backdating computer time. Next problem - no communication with car- was tougher (dreaded Cal 872 error). Could have bought solution from John at JCRecording for $40 but plugged away at Digital Kaos until I found the solution between the lines of some posts--change 1 lousy line in the Das/bin/cal.ini file. Only then did I have a working system. Then I ran the Ceasar test and had 1 anomaly--3100 can error. Heard around that this is a hardware error most often. Took apart multiplexer and put her under the scope. Surface mount chips were hand soldered--but not too bad. Found a few instances of smd resistors with one end tilted and some very cold looking solder joint in some of the edge connector pins. Now it's 100 % and I have to say..what a great tool!!! but expect some difficulties unless your luck is better than mine. Oh, and support from vendor??? Ha, Ha, within hours of the end of the e-bay auction, all traces of the transaction had vanished. And e-mails to him? He and his engineers are "studying the problem and will have a solution soon" Ha ha.

I sent the laptop DAS back to Ecartool for upgrades and the latest DAS Version 11/2009. SentVia USPS Express Mail and it was there in 5 days. Got an email from the 'boys' that the touch pad was not in good shape so they sent the PC to ASUS (across the street for all I know) for a n/c fix. Had the system back about 6 days later. Everything that requires online access functions flawlessly. Also the 'date' issue is a thing of the past and the version of XP now has SP3. This was a no-no on earlier versions - - - really good stuff!

I wish people would post more "How To's" in DAS. Such as:
Clearing all adaptations. I found it, but I was afraid I would kill something.
Mods for chimes / Volume
Tweaks to Audio (If Any)
Folding Mirror on Lock (If car already has folding)
Clear and test if engine light on
General report on module health
Speedometer / Odometer replacenet (E63 Mod) to maintain correct milage
what else?? Im sure there is more!!

Mine came from an overseas supplier, and works fine out of the box!

Ok, now I want to lower my car with SDS. Who in SoCal should I go to? :)

where you said back out one screen. is the menu you need to change
"volume control: warning buzzer (usa)"

and does anyone have any further information on folding mirrors on lock,
I just want to confirm if what i have already posted is correct.

also has anyone done fuel remaining mod?

Thanks
Jazz

hey guys,
just wondering is it possible to turn off the bulb failure message?
so that we could put l.e.d sidelights in,
Thanks
Jazz

MB Tech lowered my friends e55 and He refer him to lower my SL55 via SDS. He lowered my car but it only got lowered in Front only and rear are uneven. He try to lower it again and told me my sensor is bad so he replace the sensor but it did not do the trick. Now he told me he could not lower my car. Now my car is sitting low in front and very high in the rear and uneven. I know he lowered few E55 but somehow he could not do mine. Lowering SL55 different than E55 ? Does anyone know or have an instruction or tip how to lower SL55 via SDS.

if you put good LED bulbs they will not throw codes, I have them in the front city lights and works well.

I'm working on a SL55 STAR lowering, I got it lower right now, but I'm not sure if I did it right. It is kind of different than the E55. When I get something solid I will post it.

On my first attempt I got an ABC malfunction on the dash, I've got that to go away, but we will see in the coming days what happens.

Also For SL folks, I was able to shut off the bothersome (to me) volume increase /decrease for when the top is down or up. I just cant stand it when the volume changes when I roll the windows up or something. That is gone gone gone now.

If anyone is interested in that I can post that up at some point.

+1
How is possible that the W210 has this feature and the W211 doesnt? :nix:

Question about the lowering?

How far are people lowering the car with this? When lowering the car will it affect my camber to the point it will eat away the tires? When I press the button that raises the car will it lift it to the height it would now, or because of the calibration will it raise it in relation to how far I lower it?

Just looking around these seem like some of the best prices, Please note I have no expirence with this company. I also have seen some versions with the developer software. How many more adjustments are available with the developer software? Is it worth the extra cost?

Star 3
http://www.greebid.com/wholesale/Mb-...pping-102.html

515 bucks

Star 4
http://www.greebid.com/wholesale/MB-...ipping-62.html

650 bucks

Both have free shipping

Developer version STAR,

http://cgi.ebay.com/MB-Star-2009-Mer...item255a051fc5

$821 bucks

fyi you can convert any star to developer for around $10- $15

Do these inclination values & voltages work on all Airmatic MB's?

It worked on my E55, but i want to lower my E550 4Matic too.

When you are at the initial start screen, it will tell you the range of inclination angles it will accept. Just use those on the next page, and stay in the allowed voltage ranges :y

Why would anyone pay anything for this? If one cannot do it for free, one should not work with developer mode to start with.

OK - - - I've got $15, so?

pm me ill forward you the info

quite a few things you need developer mode for

I just had the dealer lower the E63 one inch. It resets the starting point. Since I did this to get negative camber I did not have it realigned. Car rides much nicer, and handled great on track over the weekend. Cost: $180.

I live in Pasadena, CA and just had my car lowered through STAR at a Mercedes Auto Shop here in Pasadena. Ask for Carlos. He was a MB tech for many years. Very nice guy and very professional.

AGA German Auto Service
3165 East Foothill Boulevard
Pasadena, CA 91107
(626) 577-0773

I sure wish someone could post this information on the Star system lowering for us SL55 guys.

anyone have any information about the active foglights?

.....

Anyone in Colorado with this software that is willing to share a copy of it or do some mods?

Aaron

Me and another member had ours done at MB of Westminster. Contact Scott Castleman. My car is absolutely slammed, they did a great job! :y

Thanks! How much did he charge you for his services?

Aaron

Aaron,

So I just pulled up my invoice and it wasn't cheap lol... $461.31. So if you can find someone with star it would save a boat of money :rolf: I'm just not aware of anyone that has it in Denver :nix:

If not, like I said they did an absolutely killer job and I couldn't be happier. Just call MB of Westminster and ask for Scott Casselman, 303-410-7800. Come out to starbucks on Colorado this sat night and you can look at mine and the CLS that had it done if you want :y

-Tal

Anyone in the Bay Area has access to the start system?

Did anyone ever figure out how to remove the Key Warning beep on Keyless Go cars? I have been all through Star and cannot find a way to do it.

Bought Star from this site. Received it within a week after sending money via Paypal. Works flawlessly so far. they use Virtual Machine running on a portable drive that they send you.

http://www.chinaobdshop.com/free-shi...48227af95bf1b2

/\
Anyone else who has been on here a while have any experience with the item posted above me?

Aaron

How does this affect the ride? Can you make it ride like stock when you raise it?

NYC or LI or NJ area??
 

If anyone has the software to lower my ML63, I'd be willing to pay $150.00 if you can help me out. jsanders@hodes.com

thanks

I'm going to the dealership to fix something right now, hopefully the guy will be cool and let me try out the -10 and lowering while the Star is already hooked up.

I am in York, PA if anyone needs anything done, lowering. -10, fault code reads, etc. Give me a shout.

Anyone in Hawaii with STAR?

any luck??
 

Did they lower it for you?

lowering with star
 

I assume you've done it before then? I'd make the trip in the next week or so from NY if you can def. do it. LMK

i have star. im in the nj nyc area.

Can you shoot me an email at jsanders@hodes.com?

I'd like to get together in the next week or so. Thanks!

a-1 lowered mine.

Got your email and send you one back, did you get it? Let's talk shop...

what does the -10 due? like i know what it actually does, lowers the temp of the fans, but what does it do for the car and what are the pros/cons?

@SashaR fan turns on sooner to cooler radiator sooner

May I ask where the enable buzzer setting under? Body->Which SAM? I can't seem to locate it. I have a 2009 DAS.

well i got that much, but what does it actually do for the car? why would someone want that?


Also, are there any other mods that are possible with star?

and another thing.. does anyone notice DAS is so slow? Maybe that's how dealership makes money. Time = Money.

@ SashaR Well people are under the impression that it will make the car run cooler. There are a ton of things you can do with star.

My W211 E55 won't accept the buzzer modifications...keep getting this message. Is it possible my car doesn't have the siren? Any way to test it or know where it's located where I could physically track it down?

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lbtYMre2TDo/TJ...00922-2259.jpg

Looks like there is no communication to siren. Did you try to trigger alarm?

PM/call me...

you'll know cuz it's all in german...

let me know...

Yesterday I hit the panic button and the lights flashed and all I could hear was the crickets chirping n the grass. I guess I either don't have a siren, or it's disconnected somehow.

Next time I have the front tire off, I guess I'll remove the fender liner to see if I have a siren and check to see if it's hooked up.

Does anyone know if the siren has a separate fuse in the rear SAM? That would be an easier first step to check if there is one...

Anyone in the Mid-Atlantic area willing to help me out with lowering my car, -10,etc?

Please pm me.

Thanks in advance

anyone in the bay area knows how to do this?

I just acquired MBStar C4. Not sure how to do the developer mode yet. I am willing to do mods/scans/coding for folks in Colorado for the price of a smoothie :D

Got a lot of PM's regarding star in Chicago! I would be more than willing to help out anyone in the Chicagoland area with some star mods :y

Did anyone ever figure out how to disable the "Dont forget key" reminder for Keyless Go? I looked and looked through Star and did not find it. Is it accessible in Develper Mode?

Please someone has to know how to turn this off! It drives me crazy too and I want to turn it off.

Have you done the seat belt reminder i think its in the same area. I will have to look at my little blue book. LOL

Thanks, I did the seatbelt reminder. it is off but I did not see an option to shut that annoying little ******* off! I will take full responsibility if I lock the key in the car. :)

KeyLess Go Key reminder is off!! With some help from the guys over at jcrecordings. Go into the CGW and change KG to "Not Fitted". It will still work. you will not get the annoying reminder beeps. The IC will not turn red if you are a stop, while in gear, and press the KG button like it does now (telling you to put the car in Park). If your car is a wagon, the hatch will not open. thats the only ill effects. I know it seams pety but got to be very annoying.

That did it! Thanks for the very valuable info. NO MORE KEY CHIME is bliss!

Lowering issue, Won't accept allowable voltage
 

Ok,

I am trying to level my vehicle as the passenger side is about .375" higher than my driver side.

I bought the car like this, and I believe that Alex,, you did the lowering on it originally.


As I bring up the lowering screen it is as follows:

Says my voltage must be within range:


LF 1.8-2.8
RF 2.2-3.2
Rear 2.2-3.0


We set the car perfectly level with voltages at:
LF 2.7
RF 2.3
Rear 3.0

Also tried number more within range to see if that was issue.

LF 2.53
RF 2.2
Rear 2.9


When we go to the next screen to save, it says our voltages our our of limit?????:nix::nix:

Couple notes:;
1.We are not using a Romess to check incline levels
2. My current voltages, especially on left side, are actually already outside voltage limits, yet it won't let me save new voltages with the limits....:nix:


At first, I was re-inputting the voltage levels into the inclination screens..... stupid.... However, once I figured out that we need to know those angles, we quit.

Can we guess on those angles, or are there some generic numbers to use..?

Only way I can guess to properly get this done: the incline angles measured at an alignment shop, take it back to tuner to level the car and give them the angles, then take car back to alignment shop to align once my car is level....


I cannot find a tuner with alignment machine, can't find alignment shop with SDS, and my local dealer won't touch STAR lowering.


The pain.


Please, someone help.

The shop was nice enough not to charge me, they did take my credit card.

They said as long as I come back and get it done with them and show them the correct way to do it, they will not charge me for the Hour of diagnostic time they gave me.


This is important as we have 2 other fellow E55 members in Orlando that want this same mod done, and we finally found the tuner to let us use SDS, yet we cannot save the settings, even within allowable voltage limits.



How important is it to get the incline angles correct as oppossed to just putting in some consistent numbers?

Anyone in Socal willing to share a copy of the star program ?? will give a lil extra...

Inclination settings are vital to saving the settings you've just made. In the first post of the thread the Inclination angles are 3.5, 3.5, -1.1 and -1.1. I used these settings and everything worked just fine.

Got it figured out. and your absolutely right, I simply messed up the inclination levels.

anybody in socal have the Star Diagnostics program, i got the mulitpixer n all just need the cd to reinstall the program

Well after a about 30 minutes of raising and lowering I now have my 2004 E55 lowered and running 10 degrees cooler. Thanks guys for the guidance.

I purchased this kit:

http://www.chinaobdshop.com/free-shi...roduct-72.html

...and I can say it works pretty well. A little slow as it uses an external drive, runs only with XP and you have to buy a USB RS232 cable (remember to set this to port 0 in the advanced configuration in the device manager). I bought the internal kit too:

http://www.chinaobdshop.com/mb-star-...oduct-259.html

...but have yet to get this to work. I put the SATA drive into two different IBM T60's I had and neither would recognize the drive. I then put the SATA drive into the wife's ACER Aspire 5515 and it booted, configured but I could not get it to communicate with the Multiplexer.

Just thought I'd share my experience and praise all who contributed to this thread. Cheers!

The external hard drives generally work better since they make you run a virtual machine in VMWARE.

For people with newer laptops, they usually don't have a real serial port. If you don't have a real serial port, and try those USB to serlal interfaces, the hardware will not work. If you have USB only, try to get a PCMCIA or PCI or miniPCI slot card to serial. I have yet to find a USB converter that will work properly. If someone else has other experiences, please share .. this is my own experience.

I have the Prolific USB to Serial adapter and it works perfectly. ALSO make sure you bump the speed setting up to 128000 because it will default at 9600 baud,(creepy slow). I also forced the COM port to 5 so it never conflicts with anything else.

I also just downloaded the latest version of VMWare and it is much more stable and faster than what came with my system.

Don't forget to up the serial port transfer speed to 128000 from 9600. Makes a world of a difference.

Thank you all for the suggestions. I just purchased a PCMCIA card off eBay as I was having to use a docking station because the USB port didn't have enough power. I'll also up the baud rate. I think I did leave it at 9600. Thanks!

I was at the dealer today and asked if the tech could lower my car using SDS. The advisor asked the tech who said that using SDS (Star) to lower my E55 would work, but that I would get error messages due to the ride height sensors.... Is this true?

No ... not true.
No error messages at all.

not true at all...

Hey turbo97se - where did you buy the MBStar C4? I'm thinking of picking one up. TIA!!

Anyone in St. Louis area with access to Star? I would really like to lower my E55 slightly.

I just want to confirm if what i have already posted is correct.

Is it possible in Star to disable the malfunction message "Headlt. Cornering" ? The repair bill on my e55 is close to $2000.00 to fix this small feature and I would prefer not to be reminded of it everytime I get in the car.

Thanks so much.

Hi Guys. Quick question. I printed this guide out for lowering the car with SDS and sent it to my SA. I am dropping the car off this morning to hopefully have it lowered. I would only like to lower it by a small amount possibly an inch. How low have you all gone with yours and what are the settings that you recommend using in Star? Thanks!

Well, after 3 days in the service dept, the techs said that they couldn't lower the car. They set the car to the ride height defaults, aligned the car, then lowered it and they say that they could not get the car to align properly when it was lowered. I guess I will just have to be happy that I can pick up my car and drive it for once. Fingers crossed I go more than a week before I have to take it back in.

that's BS...

I spoke with the service manager and he said that they had the car on the rack with the ride height set to default. He explained that as they lowered the car, the alignment would go out of specs. He did say that they aren't experts at lowering since it is an "unusual request". I will put my lowering on hold. -Anyone in St. Louis have a source?...apparently Plaza Motors can't do it.

If you want to lower, go with Lowering Links or ELM. Links will run you $300 and ELM more around $1000.. Mixed feelings on the links, but a lot of people run them with no issues. If you are handy, you could make a set for about $20...

So I read thru all 8 pages and did not see it...
Do I have to realign my e63 after lowering it?
Do the voltage settings as noted earlier for the E55, apply same for the E63?

My local perf shop just acquired STAR program and we will using my car as a guinea pig. We will also do the other things noted:
Seat belt chime
155 Limiter remover
Key fob chime

Thx for the helpful thread guys!

How do you remove the limiter and the seat belt chime?

If you drop it alittle then you dont have to . If you slam it down a good 1 1/2 or 2 inches then you should, its not an absolute but you will have poor tire wear. Not that you can rotate them anyway or you will keep your rear tires that long with the power this thing puts down ,but if racking the miles up. this will help. the E63 has completely different suspension so I dont think the E55 specs will be what you want on your E63.

:zoom:

Sasha: no idea, we have not dived into it yet. My car is in storage right now. It's winter time here in MN.

Mike: ahh, good to know that the 55 an 63 are different. I will have to find the proper voltages then. I believe another forum member has lowered their 63 via star, I'll find who it was. Thanks for the advice!

I am trying to lower my car via star and am having some problems. I have followed the instructions the best I can on the e55 page but the S65 w220 seems to have some different steps. I can get the car to lower by pushing the appropriate function keys but it will not save the values if you lower it more than a half an inch, even though the angle values entered are with in spec. Then if you do lower it star makes you perform a load adjustment test that once completed puts the car right back to the original height.

Can some one please give me a quick tutorial on how to lower on S or CL via star?

It also does not list the ride height voltage value range like on the E55 cars, it just gives the angle spec. Does anyone know what. Voltage values are acceptable? It seems to fail below around 2.2 volts.

Thank you.

For those of you working on CL's and S classes (W215's and 220's), please see this thread for issues I have been having.

If anyone has some pointers for CL's and S's on lowering and the 10C mod please let me know.


https://mbworld.org/forums/s55-amg-s65-amg-s63-amg-w220-w221/383387-need-star-lowering-help.html[/URL]

2 quick questions

Enabling sbc hold and the other sbc in das developer mode any tips how to?

Also how to enable tank remainder ? Thanks guys

no extra sbc functions can be added in DAS dev mode. Tank Info can be added.
http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums...21-more-89321/

I've looked and asked around but can't seem to find any info on how to disable TPMS alerts. I've got new tires with no sensors. any help?

anybody near Naperville, Davenport, Bloomington area with Star? want to lower car about 3/4 to 1 inch and pull all codes

Hi,

I have a MB Star C4 but do not speak a german word... :nix:
Could you please tell me what is the option on that screenshot to disable the speed limitation (enable V-Max) ?

Thanks
Regards

a little help
 

I don't think any of those do that. Also use google translate to find out what those options are.

Hi,

I found the appropriare option for V-MAX with the DAS SIM... Thanks

But I would like someone to confirm there is no need to power the C4...
Actually, my C4 does not power ON when connected to ODB plug...
I tried to power it with a 12V power supply using the wire attached to RS232 cable, and LED light is turning on but still have a "voltage" error message when trying to enable connection with control unit...

Is the C4 supposed to be powered by the car when plugged into ODB plug ?
If yes, what is that female Jack plug attached to RS232 cable ? Is it to power a touchscreen or a laptop ?

Thanks for your help !!

I'm German and using SDS and nope this is not the place to get rid of the speed limit!

Actually this in Dev mode and the "Fahrzeug Code, Vmax = XXX km/h" should appear in the list of values...

So if it's not, where is it ?

Thanks for your help and your german skills :)

This is the CI menu what he shows. Vmax is not in there. I would need to look in which control unit it is to be found. But why would you disable Vmax? You're in the US where you can barely drive faster than my 80 ccm moped can drive back in the days when I was 16.

Actually vMax is there, but it's not the one you want. vMax in the CI settings is the soft warning - ie "Gulf States" mode.

Exactly! It's responsible to drive you insane when you hit 120 km/h or more so you slow down.

I know it's not there and I just mentioned that I found it...
I'm based in Europe and at half an hour from Germany... where speed is unlimited.

I think you're mistaken with this Gulf setting which is far below the european limitation (250 Km/h = 160 m/h).

Thanks

Well that used to be true. Many parts of the Autobahn have speed limits today b/c of the green party. But the parts that are open you are right, you can drive as fast as you want, as fast as your car can go and as fast as traffic allows you to drive. B/c that is many times the actual speed limit out there: heavy traffic!

Where??
 

Elrajel, where is the option to raise the vmax? I need to do this so I can dyno the car in 4th without the governor kicking in. Thanks!

Why not just put your car in Dyno mode to start with?!

Because he didn't know it :)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding but my car hit the speed limiter in dyno mode. :nix:

Hi,

You just need to go to ME 2.8 AMG and then devdata - control unit adaptation -variant coding - implizite codierung...
You scroll down to code Number "0224" and then pick up in the list the right "Fahrzeug Code, Vmax = XXX km/h".

That's also why I asked to raise vmax so I can fully load 4th. As far as I know Dyno mode just kills ESP, ABS and gearshifts/kickdown-not speed limiter. Now waiting on my laptop to do further digging in star

Elrajel, I still have you in mind once I get mine back:y

Why would you wanna mess up your car with SDS and Developer-Kit access if you don't even know how to connect the mulitplexer to you car? :nix: :crazy:

Actually I do know about dyno mode since I'm in those advanced menus quite often to keep track of actual oil levels and reset service reminders when I change oil and what not and as I mentioned earlier my only use for raising vmax is to dyno (still in dyno mode) to monitor the full rpm range in 4th.:zoom:.
Maybe I seem paranoid but I'd really like to keep track of what is going on with my motor under extreme situations no matter how rare they might be.:naughty:

I'm not talking about dynomometer testing. :)

And I like that you take care of the car and the oil level and I mean that! :zoom:

Not sure what you mean by advanced menus. This is nothing that is secret or mysterious to disable ABS and ESP within the CI menu vs. the push of a button on the lower control panel that doesn't fully disable ESP as we all know.

But to be precise: I was referring to Elrajel with his C4 multiplexer and not your oil level! Sorry! :y

But since we're talking about dynamometer testing. How much is such a test nanayaw6? :y Thanks!

Hahaha, sorry Mackhack, it's that time of the week where all text seems weird or has different meaning to me:rolf:. I use the term "Advanced menu" loosely as many merc owners and in some cases dealer techs are unaware of its existence and I've seen cases where given step by step directions, some still cannot bring up the menu:slap:.

Dyno in a good shop will run typically right around $100 :y

I like to lean more towards the direction of shops that work on imports for such testing and even then will still make sure it is strapped down well....again, my paranoid self:smash:.

On a side note did u figure out that seat timer u were looking for? My darn laptop is still not back so I couldn't verify further for you:D

I did some sort of digging and found out with the help of someone else: It's possible to increase the 3 stage timer, you can't completely turn it off/on but that would be something to accomplish.

One of my next retrofit mods will be the heated/ventilated/massaging active leveling multicontur seats which will certainly be modded on the software side as well :)

Sounds very fancy :naughty:.
Besides changing the national version to rest of world, is there another way to get the fogs to stay on with high beams? Got some projector fogs on the way so that would be handy.

Do the fog lights turn off when you turn your high beams on? I switched to RoW early on when I got my car, so I don't even know haha :)

Yup. With USA selected they turn off. Which is a PITA when I am flashing someone. Killing my fog ballasts prematurely:(

Yes, they do shut off with highbeams on

Oh good to know and better to have RoW with some other options enabled :)

Hmm, some good points! I've not hit vMax when dynoing my car, but then again, I'm not 100% sure it was not before I had vMax removed. For some reason I'm still thinking you don't hit vMax in dyno mode, but don't have the chance to play with her like I used to.

FYI, you don't use the RS232 connection on the C4.

Yeah, assuming we have the same gear ratio through the driveline, and the dyno is done in 3rd, you should not hit rev limiter as the shift to 4th occurs around 140mph:)

Have you noticed that ROW turns off the side markers (USA Versions)?

Did not. I usually don't run next to my car while driving at the same time :)

But seriously, nope, and if it wouldn't be raining right now like the world comes to an end here in San Diego, I would go outside and check it out! I wanted to replace the impact strips with Euro impact strips anyways but I never found the right part number to order them. I think those side markers just look gay!

But what I like a lot is that in RoW when one unlocks the car the fog lights, the city lights and the tail lights turn on and turn off when one opens one of the front doors.

True Mackhack. Also the disabled side markers is no doubt pretty neat. RoW = Bidget Euro Impact strips IMO. I tinted mine dark and will probably spray over the tint

I thought about buying stealth lights and clear marker but taking that completely out sounds even better to me.

Bidget means what? *scratch my head*

Sorry was a typo. Bidget = budget. It's time for me to go to bed:smash:

Confirmed :)

Just as an FYI, setting a ROW car to "USA" results in loads of "light out" errors, since they don't exist! Interestingly enough, you can "fit" and configure US options to ROW cars with them set to "USA", and they still work fine with the car set back to "ROW".

Excuse my ignorance, but what it ROW?

There are about 10 country / region specific settings, and one "generic" - ROW == Rest of World.

Hey UK, I can't see a legit reason why one would change variant coding RoW to USA. IMHO RoW has the cool features. I can't even think of one single one in USA why I would want it in USA again. But I'm open for discussion and to learn!

Thanks Buddy :y

I never had any issue to connect my C4 to my CLS AMG, but only with my V Classe 220 CDI...
Problem solved now :y
It was due to bad wire connection at the back of the car plug...

Now, I'm looking for the "varcodestring" correspondig to "Fahrzeug - Code, vmax = 300 Km/h".
This is necessary to add it if you want to have this new limit appearing in the list.

If someone having this value could share it, it would be highly appreciated :)

I commit to send a kind of basket including a collection of luxuous and finest products from France :y

I have yet to figure out how to turn on the side marker lights with the coding set to ROW. I can turn them on individually through direct actuation, but they will not stay on once you exit DAS.

I'm very new here, and am not quite understanding what these non ROW cars have besides a speed limiter?

:-) TPMS is not an option for early model non-US cars. One of the *very* few options available for US and not ROW. In general, I agree 100% - ROW is a better place to be! :-)


I don't have the bit settings handy, but I did discover a couple of them through trial and error. I'll see if I can dig them up, it's been a while!


Almost all MB's - regardless of end destination - have vMax set. For the R171 as an example, Parktronic was never available stateside, neither were folding mirrors, or ATA interior motion sensors. Just like in ROW, SAT radio is not available, TPMS is not available on some models and years. Another example would be side markers - my UK front bumper is nice and smooth, while the US has orange side markers.

Netherlands disables navigation input with speed > 2kp/h, Gulf States sets a soft vMax at 120 kph, and setting to "Japan" does all manner of weird stuff!

A look into NAVI and you can enable the navigation input with speeds > 2km/h :)

That is interesting that TPMS wasn't available on early ones in RoW.

The Japanese are weird anyways :) Maybe the settings just match their style and behavior :)

True, but remember country specific settings override custom ones. So if you switch to Netherlands to - for example - try and figure out the bit-masks for "enable interior ATA sensor with top down", you end up overwriting everything else. They can still be over ridden, obviously, but it becomes a pain in the arse to remember what you have to undo.

I drove around without my mirrors folding in for a week because I forgot to code the damn things back "on" before leaving home!

Roger that.

Any chance of getting a master list of what does what, how to do it and where it's located?

Not many share that. Most of us had to learn it the hard way. At least that's how I learned it since I'm working with it for the last 3 years or so.

So be a leader and post it! or do a paid access website

Let's see...

Buying STAR
 

If anyone is contemplating buying STAR, I bought 2 setups last year for $400 each, they are done to $365 including free UPS expedited shipping. I've had 0 issues with my unit and it's been used frequently by the Houston AMG guys.
I used this site to order mine, I had it here in 5 days. http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html

Does only work with the IBM T30 laptop :) There are better systems out there which work on all laptops like the ones I have in stock.

There is an external HDD version that run VMWare worksation which run perfectly for me!

Oh and BTW it comes with the Developer piece unlocked ;)

Ok I was just saying!

No need to feel attacked here!!!

Many don't even know what they're doing without Developer-Kit access. Messing up stuff and blaming MB then for their bad engineering while it's clearly nothing average Joe should do anyways. Oh well what do I know right?

Tztztztztz!

Yeah trust me Google Translate coms in real handy when working with DEV.

And what is Google doing for you when it comes to all the abbreviations which doesn't even make sense to me as a native German speaker?

That site http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html contains a rather unpleasant entry. I am deeply worried by the "DAS key expired" notice. Will the unit stop working after one year?

Entry:
Xentry never work and error message "No key found" DAS never work as well. error message "503" They could not fix through teamviewer. They send me another hard drive, but it was also the same problem except for the DAS. It work for for one month and now that it is the new year. It is giving me a error message "DAS Key expired.

I contacted them and they no longer want to help me. I have all email conversation from the beginning to Jan 3rd, '11. Aaron the representative told me to buy another machine from them and that they wouldn't help me because I filed a dispute. He basically told me to get lost.

I will make copies of the pictures I took of the warning messages and full transcribe email and load it to Dropbox. The file will be open to the public for everyone to see. I shouldn't have bought from them because their rating are very low but the price was good. Plus they haven't sold MB Star in years. I researched this company they are nothing but a third party reseller.

Well, Xentry likes to get updated every 3 months now or it will stop. And about the error message, of course the way they do it it has to be that way :)

I bought one and can't get it to work if my life depended on it. I'm using a usb to serial adapter which I believe is my problem so I'm in the process of getting an older laptop with a serial port.

I find it kinda sad that these expensive tools still use serial ports ( MB isn't the only one ).

Serial adapter is absolutely not your problem :)

Than what could it be? I have it set to com2 and I can't even get the Caesar self diagnostics to find it.

I'll PM you!

USB to Serial will effect performance. I used one before. It works, but slower.

And where do you get these quarterly Xentry updates from? Download - where? Do I need to pay extra for this? Do I have to make sure this update service is included in the original purchase price?

I cannot see that warning ("must update regularly") anywhere. Am I blind?

I do not yet have the system but the price is very interesting. I wonder if they sell it without these "useless" truck cables etc. I will never have an MB truck. All I need it for is a W220

Seriously? Do you think MB gives that software out by simple downloads? Downloads are done by the Chinese... I leave this that way.

Well I will vouch for Mackhack. I have bought several items from him all have worked flawlessly! I even bought an extra SDS to make sure I had a good working system. Thank you for all the help you have provided in the past and possible future.

Roverron, your welcome. You know you can always knock on my virtual door :)

There seems to be a lot of insider knowledge I cannot understand or penetrate. Therefore I decided not to buy a C3 or C4 tool myself for the time being. As I am in the IT business it would have been fun to to play with the computer (specifically Comand) of my car.

However, I would be very much obliged for receiving a link to Comand OS related information. What CPU is being used (not the Bosch 27 ECU I have in my car)? What flash memory is Comand being booted from? Then I want to attack the CAN network.

The questions (and the software pictures enclosed) are slightly off topic here, but I wanted to use Star to penetrate these areas.

COMAND OS is developed in VXworks OS.

Harman Becker uses QNX Neutrino's Real Time Operating System (RTOS) as well. I'm not 100% sure in which COMAND that is running.

I have a friend of mine who works for Harman Becker and my mother works with Harman Becker with her own company. I can always ask. Will I get answers? No idea!

If you don't feel comfy with your own SDS don't buy one. You can easily damage stuff or change stuff without knowing what you just did. If you're in the SoCal area you can always shoot me a PM and we can meet if you wanna have stuff done on your car.

Anyone in the East Coast Virginia are willing to give me a lending hand with a Star Diag.? I'm not asking for a free handout since this tool does cost money so, I'm sure paying for your service is something I can do. Let me know???

Thanks!!!

Duc, I'm planning a trip to WV/VA/DC in April. I sent out PMs last night to all of the guys here on this string who wanted to have stuff done by me. If I get enough responses I'll see you guys soon.

That sounds good Mack I am willing to hook up with you when you swing by VA.

Subscrided!

That sounds good Mack I am willing to hook up with you when you swing by VA.

Subscrided!

Danke fuer den ersten guten Augangspunkt fuer meine Suche. Das ist ein grosser Schritt vowaerts.

There is a weakness in the OS and it is very likely that it is existing in stand-alone (non-networked) applications, such as Comand. This weakness is an ideal way to get into the OS. I will investigate.

http://www.darkreading.com/vulnerabi...011/index.html

Is it possible to boot Comand from a CD WITHOUT making permanent changes? I am thinking of something like booting a PC with an OS from a CD; you can debug and investigate, but he next time you boot the PC, it operates as before.

My W220 S600 has a 12+ speaker system from Bose, so HB is of limited interest to me. Thanks!

@ Jerry Machen wir jetzt in Deutsch weiter oder wie? Koennen wir gerne machen LOL!!!

I have no idea about hacking our beloved COMANDs guts out :) User "Hubi" would be the one to ask. He did all kinds of surgeries to his COMAND.

Let's hope Hubi finds this thread. Maybe someone else knows my immediate question.

When I enter via the COMAND backdoor with mute+1+3, I get the following (enclosed) menu. Of course there are several sub-menus. Where is a description of all the menus?

The enclosed picture is from a 2004 W220 S600, Euro Comand (NAVI DVD in boot/trunk)

When I select voice control (Linguatronic, SDS Speech Dialog System) in the menu I get a message that it is not activated (second picture). How can I activate it? SDS has been factory supplied, but somehow got de-activated)

SDS factory supplied? deactivated? You're talking in riddles but not in MB language.

Sorry for being so short, but it is a bit off topic for the thread. My 2004 S600 has SDS (voice control) factory fitted. The lever on the steering wheel is there and I have a Linguatornic manual. However, it does not work.

When investigating the status in Comand I see that SDS is not activated (see the pictures posted). Therefore I wonder how to activate SDS. Can I do it myself or do I need Star. If it is Star, how do I do that? Which function in Star does that? My car has MOST.

Why do you call Voice Control SDS? You don't make any sense.

SDS = Star Diagnosis System
Voice Control = Linguatronic

I put Linguatronic in myself and I didn't have to activate it. Linguatronic is part of the phone system. To be preceis it is the phone control module with Linguatronic added in one device.

All I did was changing the order of MOST devices to match the physical layout of the MOST devices. But it worked without that step.

If you have a SDS good luck.

I think the SDS he is referring to is the Speech Dialogue System like in the photo he included.
Jerry, SDS typically refers to Star Diagnosis System as Mackhack stated which is what the whole thread is about. Your referencing SDS throws most of us on here off since we're not thinking the same SDS so to speak:y

As nanayaw6 pointed out, this is not really my choice of acronyms. I knew Linguatronic as SBS (Sprach Bedienungs System) until I checked in Comand. There it is abbreviated "SDS" (see second screen in one of my previous post). We have to blame the Comand developers for using an acronym that is already used elsewhere in the MB world.

My telephone works fine; it is a bluetooth Motorola phone.

Linguatronic does not work (no voice or beep when I move the Linguatronic lever at the steering column). That stands to reason, given the screen shots i supplied.

An MB mechanic thought it could be "poor power supply" to Linguatronic (MOST?). As it is the least important unit in MOST it will be closed down first if power is insufficient. He then wanted to check it out for 1 hour via Star "to see furhter". I was not confident he knew what he was doing and so I did not want to open up that specific Pandora's box by telling him to go ahead.

I'm not a mechanic but I highly doubt that something can be called as "least important". Each part, module, control unit or whatever gets the power it needs to operate. There is no such thing as let's give COMAND 90% of the power and the rest which is 10% gets distributed evenly or unevenly throughout the rest of the MOST ring.

My suggestion: Change the dealership or mechanic.

As a tech that uses STAR nearly every day, and a 30 year electronics technician and developer .... that is THE MOST ridiculous thing I have ever heard a tech/mechanic say.

My advice.. RUN, don't walk away from that servicer. Don't even trust them with cleaning the car.

Shouldn't this Linguatronic stuff get moved out of this thread into a new one? This has nothing to do with the initial topic.

I agree that the specific Linguatronic parts should not be in this thread and should be (re)moved.

My initial idea was to find a solution for my Linguatronic problem (I do not trust that mechanic either) by buying a Star tool myself. When that turned out too complicated (see earlier posts) I asked how I could solve the problem using someone else's Star system.

I just do not like the idea of "let's connect to Star and then we'll see further" and every expensive MB Star-hour finds more potential other problems, until all MOST components have been swapped out (Pandora's box).

Any help on which part of Star can be used to diagnose the problem is appreciated. That would be back to the original thread.

If you're in SoCal... stop by :)

Hey MackHack

I have been trying to PM you. How can I get my cars settings adjusted via star through you? I am thinking about buying a complete sds system too.

If you can't get ahold of Mack PM me and I will see what I can do to help.

PM sent rlddlr53. Howdy Roverron.

okay I'm going to be a noob here and ask where I can get this toy for a fair amount and if I can use any laptop or does it have to be the IBM that comes in a set for like 1500. Thanks!!!

Sincerely,
NOOB =)

It's not a toy to begin with.

Search the thread and you will find links to places that sell it...

I'm about to pull the trigger on a DAS system (http://www.chinaobdshop.com/free-shi...roduct-72.html to be specific). My question is, will this be able to update its software, or am I "stuck" with the version they send me?

I had been looking into this already in order to fix my Voice Control problem. I copy/pasteed from the ad what the tool can do - and it does not say MOST, COMAND, LINGUATRONIC and all other items I am interested in.

Testable system:
ENGINE
AUTO-SPEED
AIRCONDITIONAL SYSTEM
SRS
ABS
ASR
MPL
GM
BENZ ORIGINAL ANTI-THEFT
DASX SYSTEM
KEYZESS GO SYSTEM
OBD-II SYSTEM

So, would this help me with my Voice Control problem - once I have learnt how to use it?

Chinese... They have no clue what it is they just care about your $$$. And the educated reader will see that each and every Chinese website which offers that stuff has copy and pasted the text from each other.

Don't expect any help from them or your money back if the cheap muxer or the cable dies :) The question is not if it will, but rather when...

Oh well it's not my money...

And you speak from experience?

I'm using OEM cables and hardware to avoid this. I know a bunch of people who have these issues and whine all over the place their **** is not working... I'm not working with SDS since yesterday as a side note.

I wish somebody on here had STAR in central/southern IL, ALWAYS in Cali or Texas

OK... And at the price, I can buy another multiplexer if the one I have goes bad or another cable and still come in cheaper than an OEM system. I won't use it every day, so I don't imagine I would have too many problems with it going bad... For what I want done to my car I can't find anyone in my area that will do it cheaper than what I can get this system for and do it myself and maybe help out some other people in the area as well... Just like anything, I am sure there are many people that have had absolutely no problems with this system and I am sure there are people that have had nothing but problems with them.... Sounds just like a 200k CL65 to me!

Please don't listen what I'm saying. I don't know anything about this stuff you know... :)

Look, I am not saying you don't know what you are talking about... I definitely know you aren't the end-all and be-all of every STAR DAS system out there! Unless you have specifically purchased a system from this company, you cannot comment on them... And, as you specifically stated, it isn't your money, so why continue the comments? Unless you can specifically answer my question, I could care less what your comments are...

Amen!

Guys, having a hard time finding the differences between the C3 and C4 SDS clones. I see people in this thread using both. Is there a reason to pay the difference for the C4, over the C3?

Hey MackHack, Is it possible to have the windows AND the sunroof close upon the car sensing rain?

@03'55AMG yes you can do that. He has the answer.

Hi Benz

The only difference is in form factor that I can see, the C4 is cost reduced from the C3. The C4 uses standard IEEE 1284(cheaper) which makes the unit physically smaller, where the C3 uses different types of connectors. I have used both. I am talking strictly about the clones here. I actually have a spare one I bought one for a local independent but they backed out. It's a few months old but I have only used it maybe 3 times myself and 2 or 3 times for friends. A few months ago, the only other difference was in the software revisions. The C3s had newer software at that time.

There may be some other differences in support for commercial Benz products (vans and trucks) too but that won't affect us.

Thanks. Yeah, I searched around and found this:

http://uobd22.over-blog.com/article-...-64885123.html

Might be helpful for those looking to buy. You have to read slowly and drink a beer to understand it, but it clears things up. Kinda.


You've got PM too.

star in miami
 

Anyone in Miami with Star that can lower the car do the vmax and the -10 let me know

Still looking for someone in St. Louis area too? Thanks guys!

Hi folks it is me again with the fault in the Voice Control system (Linguatronic), i.e., it is not working at all.

I finally went to Mercedes and had it checked by the dealer; guess what, there is no fault; everything is reported as working ok.

I cannot blame the Star system so I have to find the problem with the Mercedes technician. How can he find the problem if I go there again? What should I tell him what he should try instead?

Do we have SDS cracks on this thread?

Anyone near Raleigh, NC that can do STAR mods? have money.. will travel

If anyone needs STAR service in Houston PM me :)

man i wish someone in Miami had the star lol

here is a star diag for sale

https://mbworld.org/forums/mobile-el...ar-finder.html

thank you sr.

Is it possible to reprogram a second hand key to work with my vehicle using das/star? If so how?:confused:

Many thanks

no not possible.

On my CLK63 I recently changed it to "Rest Of World" configuration (which also turns off the side markers on U.S. units) and while I was going though the installed options list I turned on the cornering light function even though it was not part of the original options list. Surprise! The left and right fog lights now function as cornering lights! I think it is part of the bi-xenon lighting package and is normally only activated with the lighting package. My CLK63 originally had halogens, but I installed aftermarket HID's which are quite a bit brighter than the factory units.

Which control module did you reprogram to "Rest of World" to get rid of the side markers?

What sort of hid's are you running cos I don't trust its safe to keep cycling the hid's for such short durations.

CGW

Thanks! Killing them now! :y

If anyone missed my SDS on iPad thread ( https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...ml ), here are some pictures:

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds1.jpg

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds2.jpg

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds3.jpg

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds4.jpg

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds6.jpg

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds7.jpg

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds8.jpg

The fogs are standard halogen, the headlights are HID's, so no problem. If you install aftermarket HID's you have to reprogram the control unit so they do not flicker as the system sees them as a standard bulb failure.

Each model is a bit different, but when you find it you will also find that your fogs will stay on with your high beams. U.S. versions turn off fogs when high beams are on and I think the key warning also goes away with most models.

Ahh, I misread your original post and thought you now had HIDs in the fogs:smash:. I have factory HIDs with curve illumination then I tried out the corner lighting with the figs but that was a bit annoying how they turn on with little steering input and combined with the fact that I ran HID fogs, I figured my ballasts would not last with this setting so I turned that function back off.

On my 55 both features are active from the factory, but I have halogen fogs.

Here's a question...

My 2003 S500 used to auto-level the HID headlights when it was started... looked really cool when they would move up and down as they were turned on.

My 2005 S600 did not do this and neither does my 2006 S65... can this be turned on? :nix:

It should be there. Have it checked by the dealer.

What should be there? The car should auto-adjust the lights? :nix:

Like I said, only my 2003 S500 did this. My 2005 S600 and my 2006 S65 do not do this.

Also, why would I have the dealer check it if this is a STAR diag DIY thread?

Alright well I was NOT able to find a setting that auto-levels the lights, I even tried switching the coding in the CGW from ABC to AIRmatic with no change.

Apparently it's a function of AIRmatic and does not do the auto-adjustment with ABC.

This experiment did yield some benefits thought...

I found out that the automatic switchover to recirculated air when pollutants are detected was not turned on, so I turned it on:

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds1001.jpg

I also changed the CGW exterior functions version from "USA, CANADA, JAPAN" to "REST OF WORLD" and gained some new functions, as well as got rid of annoyances.

-If sunroof is tilted, car now alerts you when turned off.
-If lights are on, car alerts you when you exit the vehicle.
-Car does not give you a KeylessGo or "Do Not Forget Key" message or chime
-No more side marker error messages when bulbs are not in (my orange markers are painted yellow)

-Switched the HVAC display to have both Day/Night mode as opposed to being always in night mode.

http://www.v12tt.com/site/_upload/img/p0/sds1002.jpg[/QUOTE]

And your fogs stay on with the high beams.

I searched for that on my S65 also, The headlights do not move on mine. I would be interested in what other fun tricks you found while playing with SDS.

They do not.

Hmm . . . :confused: are you sure the national version is set to "Rest Of World"? That should be found in the CGW control unit.

Yes... I said:

I have no clue . . . I just know it works on my 55 and CLK63:nix:

OXYGEN - I do not want to hijack a thread, but just want to offer if you need any information or help at all on the M275 site, I would love to help you. I love this engine, and have quite a bit of technical experience with it.
Myself and my hacker tech buddy at our local dealership just did a performance tune on my CL65 (similar to a Renntech) and got 21% more hp and 18% more torque off the line. Of course removed the top end limit. Took it to 170MPH so far and ran out of room to keep climbing.
I love your idea on the site :)

Do those cars have bi-xenon headlights? Maybe that's the reason for it.

ABSOLUTELY! I'd love any input for the site. Let's talk via PM! :y

That's a good question and yes they do.

Anyone around Chicago able to hook up a new E55 owner with some Star modding?

Thx in advance!

-D

contact loungn14

Sent him a PM, thank you for the recommendation.

-D

Can some one break this down barney style for me, step by step

Many thanks for the tip. Just lowered my E55 and set the beep.
Way fun to trick the system!

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5395/e55amg.jpg

Will someone please post the sequence of steps needed to clear all stored fault codes using Star?

Hi Guys, i have SDS developers.
I need to know how i can get the Vmax limit out - i`m from germany and neeeeed :-)

Thanks for informations.

run a quick test and after that click on the button that says erase fault codes.

Got it, thanks.

Power Supply?
 

If it's here in this thread, I missed it.

What are guys using as a power supply for the car when working with DAS or doing flashing? I don't want to run down my car's battery. Any reasonably priced alternatives out there?

i think im going to pull the trigger on the C3 sds.
if so ill be requesting help to some of you :D lol

NO ideas???:confused:

Battery charger wile your working on it.

finally someone in MIAMI got a star comp.....ME!!! :D lol

I have an SDS and am in NorCal....



Anyone want any of this stuff done?

has anyone ever had an issue with the external hard drive not being recognised by the computer??
mine lights up but the computer does not beep or it does not show anywhere??
anyone care to help?

remove the small screws on the enclosure and make sure the drive itself is seated correctly.

:y

thanks jake. i was going to mail my hard drive to Gus, if it did not work.

if you where in front of me i would give you a big kiss!!! :rolf:

it worked!!!:y

now i have to order my ECU flash from you :D

I want to do this for my 2008 CLS 550, how would i know the height is at???

im having an issue that for some reason my rear right is about .5" lower than my left side :/

any ideas?

Lower the front left strut maybe 2 steps or raise the front right or a combination of both.

that way the car will be loop sided

Unless you are 100.% sure that you are calibrating ride height on a perfectly horizontal surface (such as an alignment rack), it is gonna be tough getting dead even gaps across both sides of the car. I blame this on the rear struts sharing a single sensor.

i understand, the funny thing is that the front ones are dead even, could it be bc i have almost half a tank of fuel? could the weight cause it to ride up?

ok finished my lowering, i know im anal but here is what i got
front is 22 15/16 from the bottom lip of the rim to the lip of the fender
rear is 23 same bottom lip of the rimto lip of fender
ill be looking at it as i drive it and once i get a chance to put it in a flat surface ill double check everything.

:D

Anyone knows the angle of inclination for the E63 and CLS550
i used the 3.5 and -1.1 and it seems to work just fine for the E63

also has anyone done the mod of -10 fan on the E63 bc i tryed but there was nothing i could do.

thanks guys

Gus, I had similar problems with my external HD and what solved it was using a dual power adapter USB cable that gets power from two USB's on your laptop but only sends the signal through one. Mine looks like this.
http://www.google.com/products/catal...d=0CH0Q8wIwAA#

Once I used that my external HD worked great. For some reason the HD wanted more power than my single USB port would provide. Give it a try it is real cheap.

Anyone in the Central NJ, Eastern PA area with one of these fancy toys? First priority for me is to get my car lowered.

Also, does the lowering affect ALL SETTINGS or just Sport 2?

:y

good to hear, now you boys with the externals, if you have the HD space, put it on the laptop and forget dragging the external around!

already did :D

ok i have a couple of questions

- do i have to have the developer in order to do changes on the car or what is that for?
- what is the difference with ROW?
- advantages and dissadvantages?
- how do i get to it? and is it there where i set all the options for seat belt buzz, keyless go buzz, speed limiter or where do i get all that stuff?

im new to the program but im trying to learn fast.

thanks guys

anyone near so. california near upland/claremont that can lower my car please let me know. pm me

did what i believe the speed removal, keyless go buzzer but i could not find the one for the seat belt, if anyone could help it would be appreciated.
also i changed the setting to RDW or what most people call ROW (rest of the world)

but i have a question after all this setting were done, the cluster lights up HOLD once in a while, i notice this was only when i was moving the car inside the garage with the door open. anyone experience this before??

thanks

damn no one huh LOL ok i guess ill have to figure it out on my own.
also has anyone ever had a problem trying to change the speed limiter on a E55, i was working on RockstarDoc's E55 and it was not letting me change it, it kept giving me an error.

Many thanks to Gus. He did an awesome job on the Star Lowering. Now all I gotta do is wait for this weather to lighten up, wash the ride, and post some pics.

Not a problem Robert, it was fun and a pleasure meeting you man.
Now all we got to do is roll out! :D
Ps: I'm still trying to find out why it didn't let me do the speed removal.

Were you trying to remove or raise i thought the trick was to raise the limit.

Raise it but the computer kept given me an error

How/where were you raising the speed limiter.

how to raise your speed limiter on a E55

- you have to go on "drive"
- then for you it would be "2.8" for me is "9.7" because i have an E63 or maybe bc of the year, im not sure.
- then you go into "development" should be toward the bottom of the list
- then you will have 3 options you select the middle one which it should be "view actual values"
- then scroll down to "0224" and click sub-meny arrow and change it to 300km as it should be at 250km
- click save and then yes if im not wrong and there you go, now you can go 186 mph

hope this helped :y

im gonna do a pic by pic step of this and the key-less go buzzer but have not found the one for the seat belt yet :nix:

Thanks, it does help. I was curious because on mine it is set at 250km but I recently had a tune that took the limiter off but when i go into star to view actual values, it is still at the same value so I guess however the tune changes it overrides the option 0224

i wouldnt know how they do that but thats all coding and stuff so

and there you go the step that i didnt remember the name of is that view actual values which it should be the middle one from the 3 options :y

what system are you using? Xentry?

Yes xentry DAS

Any luck finding someone to lower your car? I'm in Holmdel, NJ looking as well.

Well I'll be in PA and NYC on December lol
Also going to Las Vegas on Aug 11-14

I may just wait for you Gus, looks like you wrote the book.

@LT1, no, but I haven't really looked. I know of a guy, through a guy, that has a STAR unit. As soon as I have my car's paperwork in order I'm going to take a day trip up to his place and see if he can hook it up.

Well is a long time from now but let me know.

This is about an old message but since the thread is still alive and since I found this from a link on another thread I'd like to clarify: I know where developer mode is useful, my point was not that. My point was that the person who pays money for developer mode, should not use it.

In my opinion a forum member should not pay for another forum member for this at all, I would have helped this person for free, this was my point (perhaps he has too much money, or...).

any info on turning the seat belt beep off on a c350 w204

What if I was to set it to, say, 320km? would it be too much for the car to handle? like is that past the parts safety margin? ... basically whats the max i can push it up to without having to buy a new e63?

300 is the max you can set it up

thanks, now i just have to find someone in dubai with the star system.. should be easy

anybody know the inclination angles for a 2009 E350 sport?

Try 3.2 and -1.2

there should be a DIY on all SDS mods.....whose up on doing this? I will maybe start it once I get mine from mackshack

I already supply the speed and I can give also the key buzzer, I'm trying to find out the seat belt one

i made a new thread so post up in there :)

Anyone in the SE Kansas (Wichita) area that has STAR?

what do you guys think about this C5 model??

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs...olesalers.html

whats the difference?

Can someone possibly post the steps to set xenon = present for converting halogen car to factory xenons. I'd like to give them to my independent shop to see if they can do it. Thanks

hello..

Please I need your help...

On w203 (006) 2002 CDI... i cahnged something about climate control..
and now air conditioning DON'T MAKE recircul!!! when its too HOT...

thank you

thanks for all the diy.

got my stars today and repaired my srs light and keyless go reminder / chime.

anyone know if we can program a key with stars? I need a second key....my wife washed mine.:X

when you order a new key from the dealer, they program it for free. You cannot reprogram used keys, so don't buy one from Ebay.

Slight correction here but essentially the same thing. It is possible to reprogram the car immobilizer (BMW call it ews ... I think Mercedes call it EDIS maybe ... It's been a while) system to accept keys but the complexity of removing parts, unsoldering of parts (for certain models) and cost of the equipment to program does not make sense to buy a used or unprogrammed key. I looked into this some time ago and just purchased from the dealer.

Time to add something to this thread:

Auto Folding Mirrors coding: Several menus required.

Information & Communication > IC Instrument Cluster > Control Unit Adaptations > Select your MY > Variant Coding > Special Equipment > Mirror Fold-In > PRESENT

Body > System Diagnosis > Control Unit Adaptations > Read Coding and Change > Programming of Vehicle Equip > Folding Outside Mirrors > FITTED

Seats/Doors > DCM-FL > Adaptations ->Read Coding and Change > Fold In Outside Mirror When Locking> ACTIVATED

You should now have the option in your Speed Cluster under Convenience.

Quick Video in action

https://farm7.static.flickr.com/6054...9200c0f4_b.jpg

Thanks for the detailed instructions. You do need to purchase folding mirror motors for this first though right?

Yes, that is correct.

Can someone guide me on how to enable auto sunroof close when its raining? Is it even possible with a panoramic sunroof??

Steve

I tried on mine.....Doesn't work. windows go up, pano doesn't...unless I am doing something wrong?

I forgot how to access the pano in star....i think someone already posted in here

I enabled/activated everything I could find for auto close pano roof...with no luck. The only other thing I can think of is setting the car to "rest of world" which may be the ticket.

Steve

Is there anyone in Florida with Star that could help me out with lowering my E55?
Thanks in advance!

Yes to get roof to close you have to be set on ROW.
But don't forget that changes other settings that you might like so before you change that make a note of other settings.

cornering foglights:

for cornering lights, and only for post 2004, go to SAM-F and in dev mode, go to "Abiegelicht" and enable cornering lights, then reset module by locking/unlocking the car (Key off ignition)

i know who to bug :)

does anyone have the walkthrough for cluster adaptation? i just need to transfer the mileage from one cluster to another

What I was told by Steve , only if the newer cluster is under 1k miles or if you have a cluster with more than 1k miles you can move forward in mileage one time but not backwards

figured out how to enable video on comand...

go to
COMAND->development data->control unit adaptations->(variant coding)->enable all TV/DVD options

Anyone know where I can obtain a S-class W221 Telematics update DVD other than dealer? Thanks.

Anyone in San Diego willing to hook it up with some STAR action for some free German beer?? I don't drink the cheap stuff.


That's only if you have the Euro COMAND unit, correct?

Is there anyone in Central Florida with Star that can help me out or know of a shop in the area that will lower my Beast.

pm me and i will get you intouch with the shop to do so. :zoom:

Hi all,

Just tried to do this on a SL55 AMG but there is no "Level Adjustment" in the menu, only brakes and ABC. 2 menu options as opposed to 3 and level adjustment is missing.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Toby

Right we managed to find it, slightly different on the SL55.

My mechanic is saying it might not be as simple as the E55 as there are more suspension adjustments.

He stated the SL55 lowers itself at high speed, so he is concerned about lowering it via this method as is worried the high speed stability will be effected.

Once you set the heights how do you determine what the car will do at high speed, will it lower even further than the values we set? Are there different adjustments that need to be made for different speeds?

Confused.com!

I wish there was a walkthrough for the SL55 as we are not finding it easy!

Cheers

Toby

SL has ABC so lowering is more complex. I would recommend using lowering link

For the SL, you can modify the height using the "at low speeds" option when you go into initial settings. But the SL can only be lowered slightly with STAR. To go lower you will need to go the lowering links way.

Thanks guys, ordered some lowering links in the end for ease of use.

When you go lower does it effect the ride quality at all or as I have air suspension will it ride the same?

Cheers

T

How about the newest version software opetation?
 

Hi, your steps are great help to every one, i noted that the software version of you MB star is 5/2009, the operation for the newest version software 3/2011 or 7/2011 is the same?

http://www.chinasinoy.com/upload/pro...as-2011-03.jpg

anyone know how to disable teleaid with star? i tried but it says it's already deactivated, yet i still get the error message on the screen

Flashing brakelights
 

Does anyone know hot to get brake lights flashing when braking hard?

Do you have a link or website where I could purchase the Star Diagnosis for my 06 E55 ?

Mike