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Need help upgrading the exhaust system

Old Jan 29, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Need help upgrading the exhaust system


I want to work on my exhaust system, thinking of changing the following but please note that I don't care about emissions compliant but I do care not to have a hot-rod type of sound:

2nd cats delete and put an x-pipe in place like the Tru-X from Magnaflow
Straight pipes instead of the resonator
I would also need some mandrel bent tubing

I'm not sure of the pipe ID size, 2.75 or is it 3 … it would be great if someone could take the time to help me out with part numbers from Summit

Please note that I'm getting short headers too.

Thanks for the help,

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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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I have cats deleted and no resonator. You must get a xpipe 100% sure! IIRC it's the 2.75. Honestly, you cant really **** up the design of this exhaust setup... good luck and post pictures please
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 07:36 AM
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gonna be hard not to sound like a hot rod with res and cat delete and headers!! it will sound great but expect it to be fairly loud
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:18 AM
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I'm located in Kuwait and the parts will get shipped all the way here, so I need to get it right from the first time.


I managed to gather those items, but I need confirmation if I'm good to go or not.

3 x Intermediate Pipe, Steel, Aluminized, 2.75 in Part Number: WLK-42217
2 x Exhaust Tubing, 45 Degree, Elbow, 2.75 in Part Number: WLK-41439
4 x Exhaust Clamp, Band, Butt Joint, Steel, Natural, 2.750 in Part Number: WLK-36149
1 x Crossover Pipe, X-Pipe, Stainless Steel, Natural, 3 in. Diameter, Part Number: MPE-10792 (I can't find an x-pipe with 2.75 in ID size)

Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
gonna be hard not to sound like a hot rod with res and cat delete and headers!! it will sound great but expect it to be fairly loud
I'm only deleting the second cats and not the primary set, as I'll be running short headers. But if the sound will be very loud (let's say the same as a stock Mustang), then I might have to find a high flow cats that would reduce the noise but not the flow and put them before / after the X-pipe. If so, any suggestions?
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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you have a v8 engine. it will sound much louder than a mustang with a cat delete and headers
the resonater is what quiets the exhaust down and your removing that. it can be done but why import all the parts? do you have muffler shops in kuwait? just have them build you a set of exhaust and buy the mufflers. seems like it would be cheaper than importing all the stainless. x pipes can be built easily and any muffler shop would have a tubing bender to shape the exhaust
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
why import all the parts? do you have muffler shops in kuwait? just have them build you a set of exhaust and buy the mufflers. seems like it would be cheaper than importing all the stainless. x pipes can be built easily and any muffler shop would have a tubing bender to shape the exhaust
The material are all imported from UAE factories that only managed to survive with their crappie products due to the monopolist market. And the ones doing the work are $@#$% that only weld without thinking of anything. The ones who actually know what they're doing are charging insane amount just to do it.

I thought of going to the junk yard to find a used system from a MB and cut what I want from it, but I wanted to check first how much it will cost ship it from the US.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:26 PM
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Decided to wait after putting the headers and see how loud it is before removing the cats and resonator.
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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I think with headers you will have to go delete and xpipe
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wizos6
I think with headers you will have to go delete and xpipe
I don't see the need when going with short headers.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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I don't think shortie headers make that much difference in sound. My car has VRP headers and X-pipe and is still very quiet. I would love to louden it up a bit, but also appreciate how stealth it is now.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 930chas
I don't think shortie headers make that much difference in sound. My car has VRP headers and X-pipe and is still very quiet. I would love to louden it up a bit, but also appreciate how stealth it is now.
You put the x-pipe in place of 2nd cats or resonator?
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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I run Evosport headers, no cats, no res, dual 3" system with X pipe and stock mufflers. When cruising its pretty quiet but when I am on it - car is very loud.
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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I don't know what configuration you're planning on using, but keep in mind that clamps on butt joints will only work if the outside diameters of the pipes are the same on either side that it's connecting.
Originally Posted by Adsonic
3 x Intermediate Pipe, Steel, Aluminized, 2.75 in Part Number: WLK-42217
2 x Exhaust Tubing, 45 Degree, Elbow, 2.75 in Part Number: WLK-41439
4 x Exhaust Clamp, Band, Butt Joint, Steel, Natural, 2.750 in Part Number: WLK-36149
1 x Crossover Pipe, X-Pipe, Stainless Steel, Natural, 3 in. Diameter, Part Number: MPE-10792 (I can't find an x-pipe with 2.75 in ID size)
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtwz
I don't know what configuration you're planning on using, but keep in mind that clamps on butt joints will only work if the outside diameters of the pipes are the same on either side that it's connecting.
Thanks for the heads-up, I only got them to make the middle section (with the 3" x-pipe welded on the 2.75 pipes) removable using the clamps rather than all welds. In theory, clamps after the primary cats and before the x-pipe then another set after the X-pipe and just before the rear mufflers.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Adsonic
Decided to wait after putting the headers and see how loud it is before removing the cats and resonator.

I bought a db meter that I'll use before / after putting the shorty headers to finally address this matter clearly. I'll also use the same later-on when putting the X-pipe then the 2nd cat delete.

There will be two test spots, one at the back and the other at the deriver's door (to see if the headers produce enough noise).
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Does any have experience with this exhaust kit? I've always like the sound of Borla and quality excelent IMO.
http://www.borla.com/products/produc...?cat=2&type=42

Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
gonna be hard not to sound like a hot rod with res and cat delete and headers!! it will sound great but expect it to be fairly loud
Originally Posted by 320 dreamer
you have a v8 engine. it will sound much louder than a mustang with a cat delete and headers
the resonater is what quiets the exhaust down and your removing that...
actually it's the rear mufflers that govern 90% of the sound coming from our exhaust systems so you can delete all the cats and the resonator and still not sound much louder than stock. i'm running long tubes, no cats, no resonator, with an x-pipe flowing into my oem mufflers and it's perfect. quiet as stock while cruising and aggressive at wot...but still nothing like a mustang!
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Old Feb 15, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Same situation with me -- the stock mufflers are going to really help with keeping the car QUIET -- I barely noticed any difference with the resonator delete with X-pipe.
Originally Posted by 930chas
I don't think shortie headers make that much difference in sound. My car has VRP headers and X-pipe and is still very quiet. I would love to louden it up a bit, but also appreciate how stealth it is now.
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