he said 3k optimally, 6k possibly
Just messin, I totally read it wrong so doh....
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Yes, that's close anyway. He said:
Pretty straightforward recommendation; pretty hard to misinterpret.
Pretty straightforward recommendation; pretty hard to misinterpret.
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His quote
Originally Posted by Tony@Eurocharged
Heavily modded cars and ran hard I would change every 3k and plugs I will change when doing the oil change or every other oil change.
Heavily modded cars and ran hard I would change every 3k and plugs I will change when doing the oil change or every other oil change.
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hhehe I take back the peanutbutter slap, damned internet no intonation
Edit: The average driver does what 10-12k per yr? even @ master tuners reco "every other oil change swap sparky's too" would = (4) complete Spark Plug changes per yr,
& a pocket raping (8) SP changes per yr optimally for heavily modded
That would = changing your plugs every 1.5 months LoL
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But, you know how sometimes it's hard to get your point across with the written word. Especially when you're being attacked from all sides.
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Just trying to play a bit of devil's advocate, as he didn't actually mention the 55K car, or any MB in that post. But, the entire discussion is about a certain 55K car, so the connection could be made. It's just such an off-the-wall comment to make about a daily driven engine, that's why I raise the question. Now, my brother's purpose built SuperPro drag car get's new plugs every 30 passes or so.
But, you know how sometimes it's hard to get your point across with the written word. Especially when you're being attacked from all sides.
But, you know how sometimes it's hard to get your point across with the written word. Especially when you're being attacked from all sides.
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Just trying to play a bit of devil's advocate, as he didn't actually mention the 55K car, or any MB in that post. But, the entire discussion is about a certain 55K car, so the connection could be made. It's just such an off-the-wall comment to make about a daily driven engine, that's why I raise the question.
AFAIK, Tony was replying to my question (post 143) as a follow-up to some excerpts from his earlier post. While I didn't specify a 55K car, I was intending to mean AMG's... since I own one and handle most of the more straightforward servicing myself. So, basically, my question was intended to be about appropriate service intervals for a modded AMG. No mention (by anyone) about purpose-built race vehicles - so it would be illogical to assume that's how he took, and subsequently addressed, my question. My $0.02.
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This thread is getting pretty huge; I can probably help - with this question anyway.
AFAIK, Tony was replying to my question (post 143) as a follow-up to some excerpts from his earlier post. While I didn't specify a 55K car, I was intending to mean AMG's... since I own one and handle most of the more straightforward servicing myself. So, basically, my question was intended to be about appropriate service intervals for a modded AMG. No mention (by anyone) about purpose-built race vehicles - so it would be illogical to assume that's how he took, and subsequently addressed, my question. My $0.02.
AFAIK, Tony was replying to my question (post 143) as a follow-up to some excerpts from his earlier post. While I didn't specify a 55K car, I was intending to mean AMG's... since I own one and handle most of the more straightforward servicing myself. So, basically, my question was intended to be about appropriate service intervals for a modded AMG. No mention (by anyone) about purpose-built race vehicles - so it would be illogical to assume that's how he took, and subsequently addressed, my question. My $0.02.
Sounds like my SL600. I've driven it 4 times, to work, since New Years. Oh, that's a lie.....once to get the paint corrected, and once to get the windows tinted.
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Fair enough. It's just that I like Tony and Jerry. Hell, I liked Wayne before they parted ways. I'm just trying to make sense of the whole thing, is all. It seems that Eurocharged was on top of the MB tuning world with umpteen satisfied customers. And all it takes is 1 or 2 people saying that "Eurocharged done blowed up my motor" to throw this place into an uproar.
I was among the first dozen or so customers LET ever had (little over 2 years ago); still have LET's heat-exchanger on my car, and it has performed admirably ever since I installed it. The other hardware and software didn't work out as I'd hoped, and has since been replaced by another MBW vendor's wares. In the last 2 years, LET/EC has gone through at least 3 distinct corporate changes - most likely (and just a guess on my part), strictly an asset sale to the new co., when the old one closes. If that's the case, clients of the prior companies should understand what that means to them, from a practical standpoint (might be nothing) and a legal liability standpoint (might be significant).
Important to point out, so that others are aware, that the hw/sw I bought is not what EC is currently offering... so it shouldn't have any bearing on decisions made by others. Brings me to my next point, though, which is not EC-specific: most (if not all) smaller tuners do their R&D on the backs of their client base. This gives them useful data quickly, which they can use to further refine and revise their hardware and software. Clients should be aware that, if they're first in line for some new tune or part, it *might* not be quite ready for prime time yet. In effect, they're beta-testing it for the tuner - and usually get a discounted price for doing so.
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Important to point out, so that others are aware, that the hw/sw I bought is not what EC is currently offering... so it shouldn't have any bearing on decisions made by others. Brings me to my next point, though, which is not EC-specific: most (if not all) smaller tuners do their R&D on the backs of their client base. This gives them useful data quickly, which they can use to further refine and revise their hardware and software. Clients should be aware that, if they're first in line for some new tune or part, it *might* not be quite ready for prime time yet. In effect, they're beta-testing it for the tuner - and usually get a discounted price for doing so.
Can't wait to see the results of the ECU tuning on Luis car. It will be getting logged as soon the new motor is dropped in, in actual driving conditions not logging it during a few dyno pulls.
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Who cares how "new" someone is to a website, does it make them any less knowledgeable? Of course not. From what I've read on here this site could use a good dose of facts and a lot less misinformation. I see a lot of talkers, and a whole lot less doers. If you've never tuned a car in your life, you probably shouldn't be talking to others about what "you" think a safe A/F is. Again, erase every post in this thread and based on the pictures alone it's clear as day what caused this motor to grenade. Say what you want about customer service, but it's clear this motor was not tuned properly. I'd rather have a safe tune than have someone refund my $800 in 2 days. If it takes someone new registering and pointing this out to you, so be it, at least you know.
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Who cares how "new" someone is to a website, does it make them any less knowledgeable? Of course not. From what I've read on here this site could use a good dose of facts and a lot less misinformation. I see a lot of talkers, and a whole lot less doers. If you've never tuned a car in your life, you probably shouldn't be talking to others about what "you" think a safe A/F is. Again, erase every post in this thread and based on the pictures alone it's clear as day what caused this motor to grenade. Say what you want about customer service, but it's clear this motor was not tuned properly. I'd rather have a safe tune than have someone refund my $800 in 2 days. If it takes someone new registering and pointing this out to you, so be it, at least you know.
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Who cares how "new" someone is to a website, does it make them any less knowledgeable? Of course not. From what I've read on here this site could use a good dose of facts and a lot less misinformation. I see a lot of talkers, and a whole lot less doers. If you've never tuned a car in your life, you probably shouldn't be talking to others about what "you" think a safe A/F is. Again, erase every post in this thread and based on the pictures alone it's clear as day what caused this motor to grenade. Say what you want about customer service, but it's clear this motor was not tuned properly. I'd rather have a safe tune than have someone refund my $800 in 2 days. If it takes someone new registering and pointing this out to you, so be it, at least you know.
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There is no need for you or anyone to know my name or shop affiliation. I'm simply here to post facts. Based on the data provided the reasoning behind the failure of this motor is clear as day. Fact: A certified master tuner wouldn't run 24+ degrees of advance at WOT with 10psi on a N/A bottom end. A certified master tuner doesn't cause motors to fail, he makes them last. A certified master tuner wouldn't bring up a broken rod as a potential problem of detonation. A certified master tuner wouldn't reference anything 16:1 A/F. I'm here to post my experience on the facts, so let's talk facts.
